Role Call I (Game Over)

[Vecna]

pops can buddy me in there all day though

[Vecna]

VOTE: against

[AP]

Why don't you want Nero as Gladiator? If you think he might YOLO Gladiate I think he's demonstrated rather recently he isn't really likely to do that with how he's been engaging people.
Who would you give Inactive to?
Maybe Vexna isnt a common mislynch but he isn't easy to read either. There could be better slots for it though. In fact let me ask this: should we or should we not give the D5 IC to a player who is considered good enough at the game as town to the point that living to Day 5 should be suspected?
Okay.
Why do you want Miller on Oversoulslot?
I don't get why this is a problem.
Is Cheeky a frequent D1 lynch? Also I don't like you saying you won't lynch Cheeky as either alignment as I don't recall her having any qualities that make her a keeper for you.

I don't care what Nero says when he's calm and rational. Try to piss him off and see if he is still rational.
CT wanted Inactive, so she can have it.
Vecna is 50% scum, dude. It's either him or momo at this point. You don't let a 50% scum cruise to D5.
Oversoul is TOWN and I don't need a Cop check on him to clear him. I'd also give that to you or Nero, but I know you both can do with other roles. I don't know Oversaul's (or his replacement's) ability to handle other roles. That may change when I know who is taking over the slot.
It's a problem because WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ROLE HE WOULD INHERIT! Duh! He's no good at Neighbors. I don't think he makes good calls with Inventor. Geez. I'd give him King already, but not Backup.
And I don't care whether you like/dislike me not wanting to lynch CT. My posts aren't meant to appease anyone. I want to have CT playing until D3 at the very least. GIVE HER INACTIVE if you so much distrust her, but let her play the game. Like, the whole damn roster wants to lynch her and not a goddamn soul is defending her. Doesn't that at least make you suspicious? At least there was some resistance to her lynch in this game, and she herself tried to get out of it. That's not how she's playing here.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why don't you want Nero as Gladiator? If you think he might YOLO Gladiate I think he's demonstrated rather recently he isn't really likely to do that with how he's been engaging people.
Who would you give Inactive to?
Maybe Vexna isnt a common mislynch but he isn't easy to read either. There could be better slots for it though. In fact let me ask this: should we or should we not give the D5 IC to a player who is considered good enough at the game as town to the point that living to Day 5 should be suspected?
Okay.
Why do you want Miller on Oversoulslot?
I don't get why this is a problem.
Is Cheeky a frequent D1 lynch? Also I don't like you saying you won't lynch Cheeky as either alignment as I don't recall her having any qualities that make her a keeper for you.

I don't care what Nero says when he's calm and rational. Try to piss him off and see if he is still rational.
CT wanted Inactive, so she can have it.
Vecna is 50% scum, dude. It's either him or momo at this point. You don't let a 50% scum cruise to D5.
Oversoul is TOWN and I don't need a Cop check on him to clear him. I'd also give that to you or Nero, but I know you both can do with other roles. I don't know Oversaul's (or his replacement's) ability to handle other roles. That may change when I know who is taking over the slot.
It's a problem because WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ROLE HE WOULD INHERIT! Duh! He's no good at Neighbors. I don't think he makes good calls with Inventor. Geez. I'd give him King already, but not Backup.
And I don't care whether you like/dislike me not wanting to lynch CT. My posts aren't meant to appease anyone. I want to have CT playing until D3 at the very least. GIVE HER INACTIVE if you so much distrust her, but let her play the game. Like, the whole damn roster wants to lynch her and not a goddamn soul is defending her. Doesn't that at least make you suspicious? At least there was some resistance to her lynch in this game, and she herself tried to get out of it. That's not how she's playing here.

>I gave Nero plenty of reason to crank up the ire but he remained perfectly level-headed with me. I think he's chill.
>Maybe.
>Why is Vecna/momo scum? Also you didn't answer my theory question.
>I guess I wouldn't mind Miller as I feel like I'm on a hot streak as town.
>So who should we give back-up to since you're making a big stink about "being able to use the role you inherit"?
>Problem is CT has been barely staying active so I think it's possible her buddies have just accepted her lynch.

[popsofctown]

Only first shot on inventor matters. Inventor should be fine on your TR. It's bad on your scumread where none of the shots will happen they'll be given to a partner or a player who will misuse it or given to the nightkill. Or fake rolestopped.

[AP]

>I gave Nero plenty of reason to crank up the ire but he remained perfectly level-headed with me. I think he's chill.
>Maybe.
>Why is Vecna/momo scum? Also you didn't answer my theory question.
>I guess I wouldn't mind Miller as I feel like I'm on a hot streak as town.
>So who should we give back-up to since you're making a big stink about "being able to use the role you inherit"?
>Problem is CT has been barely staying active so I think it's possible her buddies have just accepted her lynch.

I have no idea how to answer your theory question. I am looking at roles and players individually, not as a "give this role to someone who meets x, y & z conditions". I said I want to give the IC to someone who is generally hard to sort, so not necessarily a good town player. In fact, seeing as IC "might" stay alive to D5 you have to consider giving it to someone "bad at scum" more than "good as town". Good town will be killed early regardless of their role IMHO. I don't want IC to be the reason why someone good as scum is given a break for 4 days.

I also suggested Nero for the Backup. If scum shoot the Gladiator then ok, but that's letting the Inventor live (for one) so that's a good trade. Or wait and see who replaces Oversoul. Or -maybe- pops. Lots of better choices there.

[AP]

Also, I am sad you didn't give me much to stay in-character. Posting nothing cheeky/nasty/suggestive makes me blue.

[Vecna]

did they already steal your mojo?

[AP]

[Gamma Emerald]

>I gave Nero plenty of reason to crank up the ire but he remained perfectly level-headed with me. I think he's chill.
>Maybe.
>Why is Vecna/momo scum? Also you didn't answer my theory question.
>I guess I wouldn't mind Miller as I feel like I'm on a hot streak as town.
>So who should we give back-up to since you're making a big stink about "being able to use the role you inherit"?
>Problem is CT has been barely staying active so I think it's possible her buddies have just accepted her lynch.

I have no idea how to answer your theory question. I am looking at roles and players individually, not as a "give this role to someone who meets x, y & z conditions". I said I want to give the IC to someone who is generally hard to sort, so not necessarily a good town player. In fact, seeing as IC "might" stay alive to D5 you have to consider giving it to someone "bad at scum" more than "good as town". Good town will be killed early regardless of their role IMHO. I don't want IC to be the reason why someone good as scum is given a break for 4 days.

I also suggested Nero for the Backup. If scum shoot the Gladiator then ok, but that's letting the Inventor live (for one) so that's a good trade. Or wait and see who replaces Oversoul. Or -maybe- pops. Lots of better choices there.

Ok who do you think is bad at scum in this lobby?

As for the backup dealie why are you okay with Nero having Backup but not Gladiator? Honestly your play around the nightkill gives me the impression you think LUV would be the shot, why do you think that?

[AP]

LUV the NK?? Are you comprehending what you're reading?? I said if that's the case THEN that's a compromise I could live with. Killing the Gladiator is sub-optimal for scum.

As for who is bad at scum, you probably could have went back to my -refused- proposal to know whom I think is bad at scum. It's the same reason why I don't want her lynched, because EVEN IF she is scum she's no big threat to town and she

will be

found out soon enough.

Note: In the game I linked I spent most of the day defending Cheeky, but I ended up voting her because she made a fatal mistake (from my PoV) voting Chara (who was obv!town) out of the left field. Scum!Cheeky either scum!claims or gets guiltied before the end of D3. Give her Inactive, give her Gladiator, give her Vanilla or give her Timid. Just don't lynch her today.

[AP]

CHEEKY .. is what I'm all about.

[Gamma Emerald]

How is killing Gladiator sub-optimal when Backup exists? And I guess I'm not comprehending.

I assume Cheeky is the "bad at scum" person you speak of without looking? Imo with how she's acting the only I don't lynch her over Iconeum is if she gets the D5 IC.

[Gamma Emerald]

Accidentally hit submit too early
Continuing my post, Cheeky is playing in a way that limits ability to scumslip and idk if we'll get a straight cop in this game.

[AP]

How is killing Gladiator sub-optimal when Backup exists? And I guess I'm not comprehending.

Inventor hands out stuff. Generally speaking you would use it different than how I would, and Nero -say- will have different ideas from us both. You interrupt the thought process by eliminating that person. Like, let's say I was Inventor and I gave you FN. The next day the Backup knows I gave out FN but not who got it. If scum got that (i.e. if you were scum) they can play around it in more than one way (I'm not getting into that now). Or let's say I handed out the Hero thing. Again, nobody knows who got it but me and the person that received it, and if that was scum then they can make use of it after I'm dead when least expected (MyLi/LyLo).

Obviously, you having to ask both raises my suspicions about you (why are you doing this to me? It now feels like you're lost and wanted me to give you advise), AND makes me want to say you're as bad a scum as CT is (it's easy enough to think how scum would utilize certain role combinations).

[AP]

Accidentally hit submit too early
Continuing my post, Cheeky is playing in a way that limits ability to scumslip and idk if we'll get a straight cop in this game.

Again, you don't lynch "weak scum" on D1. Even if she is scum you won't get any information from her flip. Lynch ME and you''ll probably get more info. Higher scum equity in those who support the CT lynch over those who are opposed to it tbh, because scum want the lynch on someone lynchable and don't want to take the blame for it. The stronger players can be shot.

So, I dare everyone: LYNCH ME. Let's see who has the guts to either look stupid or blow their cover. Here I am.. come and get meeee

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay. I wasn't aware of that concept, I've been thinking about the roles in a very linear fashion and that's the first mention I've heard of thinking of the roles like that. That's cool to consider.

[Gamma Emerald]

Accidentally hit submit too early
Continuing my post, Cheeky is playing in a way that limits ability to scumslip and idk if we'll get a straight cop in this game.

Again, you don't lynch "weak scum" on D1. Even if she is scum you won't get any information from her flip. Lynch ME and you''ll probably get more info. Higher scum equity in those who support the CT lynch over those who are opposed to it tbh, because scum want the lynch on someone lynchable and don't want to take the blame for it. The stronger players can be shot.

So, I dare everyone: LYNCH ME. Let's see who has the guts to either look stupid or blow their cover. Here I am.. come and get meeee

Scum is scum. I'd need you to state why Cheeky isn't scum to change my mind, not state why as scum she's a "bad lynch".
And no I'm not lynching you, you're town.

[Nero Cain]

a50 didn't you also town read Cheeky in w/e game we played last?

[Iconeum]

@Mod: Replace me with AP (my alt) id you will.

This game can't be taken seriously at this point.

Any specific reason you feel this way? Is it because you aren't being townread that you wanna change character (which should be forbidden anyway if you ask me) and now wanna hide behind a different mask?

[CheekyTeeky]

a50 didn't you also town read Cheeky in w/e game we played last?

He did except this time he's scum and I'm town.

[CheekyTeeky]

@Mod: Replace me with AP (my alt) id you will.

This game can't be taken seriously at this point.

Any specific reason you feel this way? Is it because you aren't being townread that you wanna change character (which should be forbidden anyway if you ask me) and now wanna hide behind a different mask?

This is such a leading question.

[CheekyTeeky]

Scum is scum. I'd need you to state why Cheeky isn't scum to change my mind

I think you'd be right more often if you townread me instead of default scumreading me every game. You know stats and all.

[Gamma Emerald]

Scum is scum. I'd need you to state why Cheeky isn't scum to change my mind

I think you'd be right more often if you townread me instead of default scumreading me every game. You know stats and all.

Maybe it's a you problem 'o'

[CheekyTeeky]

A50 has a point about my low info lynch if I were scum. I'm town though so you'd get more info from the people riding the lurker wagon and those opposed to it for no good reason.