Starry Night [Game Over]

[Dunnstral]

I think you're close to alone with not ever wanting to lynch my pairing fire

I am never alone when I am with u

Is that what you'll say to ank in the dead thread 5 days from now

[Firebringer]

if there isn't 76 virgins in the dead thread, I will be very disappointed.

[Ankamius]

Oh fire you're such a flirt

[Ankamius]

I think you're close to alone with not ever wanting to lynch my pairing fire

I am never alone when I am with u

Is that what you'll say to ank in the dead thread 5 days from now

You'll be there to see it yourself

[Dunnstral]

We will see

[DeasVail]

Reads time!!!!!

Kagami/SXTLHGaiden

I'm not actually that motivated to do anything about Gaiden at this stage. Their posting doesn't convince me that they're town, but people seem to think they are town, Kagami thinks they are town and there is nothing concerning enough for me to feel the need to contest this right now!

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Ankamius/MariaR

Ankamius is still a strong townread for me. The persistence and depth of their INVESTMENT, both emotionally and otherwise, exceeds what I could reasonably expect from scum.

MariaR is less certainly town in my mind, but overall her play gives me the impression more of town trying to work out the game and exert their influence, rather than scum trying to look town. This is the case even when I apply a mindset of assuming that MariaR is a very good scum player. The fact that she is keeping up with a PT with Ankamius without causing Ankamius concern is also a point in her favour to consider!

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Firebringer/Shiro

This is a pairing where I'm not really confident in either member being town, but I don't think they are my top priority for lynch?

Firebringer: 2170, 2176 response to suspicion makes me suspicious of faked bravado!
The progression from 2198 (beginning of Oka scumread) to 2219 (end of Oka scumread) is difficult to interpret.
However, overall I find Firebringer's interaction with the Oka suspicion less likely to come from scum with Oka. I have my doubts, but I would lean towards Firebringer being town.

Shiro I feel less good about. I don't find myself truly believing her suspicion of Firebringer early on with how quickly it resolved and never came back again. Posts like 3355 seem like an effort to sound towny and reasonable but what's the point? The whole thing about not liking the Gamma/Oka wagon after they had already flipped is something I'm still not sure about. It actually took me a while to figure out they had been lynched, and I actually considered pretending that I hadn't seen it as a way of making myself look town (I beg forgiveness!), so it isn't out of the question that scum in Shiro's position would actually do that. Interesting that she would choose to post it in the PT with Firebringer rather than in the thread but I can see reason for it.

I would consider lynching this pair in the near future mainly because of doubts about Shiro but I don't think I want to lynch them right now.

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Dunnstral/Bitmap

In terms of reads, I think this pair is the most uneven for me. I think Dunn is town. I like their approach to the game and the way they're going about reads. I just think they're wrong on Bitmap.

Bitmap's expressed motivations/thoughts just change throughout the game in a way that I think is based on convenience and being able to "say towny things" than on genuine change of thought.

1016 & 1021 - Essentially boils down to "I just want to help out, it's okay if I don't get picked"

1526 "I'm open to all gents except unwnd"

And then after being picked by Dunn there's a confidence in Dunn being town early on doesn't fully match with his expressed self-doubt in 1016/1021.

And as MariaR points out, 3287 contradicts with his earlier posts.

I can see the above being explained by town possibly, but in addition to this I really don't like Bitmap's response to pressure, as pointed out previously, and it makes me feel better about Bitmap being scum than anyone else being scum at this point.

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unwnd/popsofctown

Town/Town imo.

I feel like the way that they each are approaching the game is authentic, but in different ways. Unwnd is putting a lot of thought into reads and how to go about discussing them with their partner. Popsofctown says what she wants to regardless of how it might sound. They were also the first pair on the Oka wagon.

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GoldenRobster/Creature

Both of these slots are in the weaker town but still town section of my reads. The townread on Creature has been ever since the existence of lupin and has been maintained since then. GoldenRobster is perhaps a weaker read, but they haven't given me overall much concern thus far.

This is where I think I may be missing scum but I haven't really identified much yet.

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My plan right now would be to lynch Bitmap/Dunn given that I feel Bitmap has the highest chance of being scum.

[Dunnstral]

so far:

dunn - town

gamma - "probably" town

unwnd - funny

He has me as town before I paired with anything

After I pair with Bitmap he starts pushing me in his pt because of Alisae dying

[Shiro]

Vote:Bitmap/Dunn

I shall follow my love, also it apears it is litteraly us or them soooooo

[Dunnstral]

I see it more likely oka was just doing the classic defend a mislynch!scum routine. Not hard to do when people’s reasons for considering us scum are vapid

If oka decided he'd dedicate his entire scum game towards making the most lynchable pair in the game look bad, the pairing that was near gauranteed to die regardless of what he did, while doing nothing to get people to not vote him, good on him.

Otherwise, it probably points to shiro being scum

[Dunnstral]

That's L-1

I'd prefer if we lynched Shiro right now instead of my pairing.

[Dunnstral]

For Kagami/Gaiden pair: They probably die during intermission. If they don't die, listen to what Kagami has to say and what she thinks. It isn't worth looking at Gaiden before intermission, which is why nobody has said anything - not because everyone thinks he is town

[Shiro]

That's L-1

I'd prefer if we lynched Shiro right now instead of my pairing.

Understandable, tbh I feel you are town and probably far more useful than me but I do think bit has a chance of being scum and I am not scum. Also Fire is like 100% town here.

[Dunnstral]

If Bitmap were scum, Maria would be very likely scum as well

[Dunnstral]

like VERY likely

[Shiro]

If Bitmap were scum, Maria would be very likely scum as well

That was my very initial thought process but liek then I started townreasding her like I always do.

Also like why wouldnt she vote me and fire in this if that was the case as well? Doesnt make much sense unless she is really afraid of you catching her, Which I do not htink is impossible.

[Shiro]

Like nobodyw ould blink twice if she was voting me and fire instead of you and bit makin git more likely that I and fire die instead of bit.

[Dunnstral]

Also like why wouldnt she vote me and fire in this if that was the case as well?

Scum don't have to vote you for you to get lynched, it's that simple

[Dunnstral]

Like nobodyw ould blink twice if she was voting me and fire instead of you and bit makin git more likely that I and fire die instead of bit.

She'd be setting up to win at the end

[Dunnstral]

Shiro what do you think of Deasvail's reads?

[Shiro]

Really meh and agreeabale with everyone.

See Deas reads also alarmed me a bit about what we are doing, the way he basically only fgocused on mine and yours pair is basically a we lynch these slots back to back but I feel this one has more chance of flipping. I dont neccessarly see this as coming from scum but if bit is town that is where my vote is going afterwards.

My initial call for scum in my pt was Golden,Deas,Bit Obviosuly I am wrong but you get what I mean.

[Shiro]

I do feel cehpir is town in the pair just lost.

[Shiro]

I kidna think we are getting lynched after you or before you if the tides change regardless.

[DeasVail]

See Deas reads also alarmed me a bit about what we are doing, the way he basically only fgocused on mine and yours pair is basically a we lynch these slots back to back but I feel this one has more chance of flipping. I dont neccessarly see this as coming from scum but if bit is town that is where my vote is going afterwards.

Where else do you think I should focus?

[Shiro]

See Deas reads also alarmed me a bit about what we are doing, the way he basically only fgocused on mine and yours pair is basically a we lynch these slots back to back but I feel this one has more chance of flipping. I dont neccessarly see this as coming from scum but if bit is town that is where my vote is going afterwards.

Where else do you think I should focus?

Dunno, that why I said I dont neccessarly think this is coming from scum. It can very well be town that sees this as todays focus so we focus on this.

[Dunnstral]

OK guys

I've come around to Shiro being town