Starry Night [Game Over]

[Dunnstral]

Which means my pair is probably dead

If I'm right and Bitmap is town I think you guys should lynch Deasvail next - I think I was too quick to write them off as town and some of the things they say concern me (the thing about gaiden, the push on Bitmap, the coming push on Fire/Shiro)

[Dunnstral]

Bitmap had a pretty good case against Deas early on in the pt, in that his iso is weak and sheeps general consensus

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Deasvail/Cephrir

So I'll move my vote there and won't be surprised if I end up dead soon

If you hammer before Kagami can check in she'll be *steamed* emoji in the dead thread

[Ankamius]

UNVOTE: Bitmap

I'll give you some room

[DeasVail]

See Deas reads also alarmed me a bit about what we are doing, the way he basically only fgocused on mine and yours pair is basically a we lynch these slots back to back but I feel this one has more chance of flipping. I dont neccessarly see this as coming from scum but if bit is town that is where my vote is going afterwards.

Where else do you think I should focus?

Dunno, that why I said I dont neccessarly think this is coming from scum. It can very well be town that sees this as todays focus so we focus on this.

Why don't you think I should focus elsewhere?

[DeasVail]

Bitmap had a pretty good case against Deas early on in the pt, in that his iso is weak and sheeps general consensus

In a world where I am town, do I have reason to believe the general consensus is wrong?

How does scum-me and town-me behave differently here?

I feel like GoldenRobster/Creature is where I am perhaps being lazier than I should be, but apart from that I have no qualms with how I've approached my reads here.

[Dunnstral]

Somebody has to be scum and if it's not bitmap/shiro it's probably you over GoldenRobster/Creature, is what I'm thinking

I think Creature is more likely to be scum than GoldenRob in that pairing though

[Dunnstral]

How does scum-me and town-me behave differently here?

I don't know

[Firebringer]

How does scum-me and town-me behave differently here?

i am actually interested in u answer this urself deas.

[Dunnstral]

1) popular consensus matters because it means that whoever bitmap pairs up with will probably end up dead

[Dunnstral]

I'll relent and say that ank-maria are probably town due to Oka's push on Ank there

[DeasVail]

How does scum-me and town-me behave differently here?

i am actually interested in u answer this urself deas.

I feel like it’s a more relevant question for someone who is scumreading me to answer because in saying that the way I’ve gone about my reads has caused Dunnstral to think I’m scum, the implication is that I would be doing something different if I were town.

As for what I think:

In this situation as scum I need to act. I’ve lost a buddy and only have one left. There is a town core forming and I am not part of it after my struggles to remain caught up with the game earlier on.

As scum here I’m not going to win by going with the flow and doing nothing to stand out. I need to do something to get townreads. I need to convince everyone that I am TOWN without looking like I’m doing it.

How would I do that?

Well I don’t know. I haven’t thought about it because I’m not scum.

But probably not what I’ve been doing here!

[Ankamius]

I maintain that Oka was trying to discredit me

[Ankamius]

Deas

I've been struggling to see you as town because I get the impression that you're trying to put out content to look like you're town rather than getting into the nitty gritty and solving

I didn't feel that way about you at all when I read through overkill 2

[Dunnstral]

As scum here I’m not going to win by going with the flow and doing nothing to stand out. I need to do something to get townreads. I need to convince everyone that I am TOWN without looking like I’m doing it.

How would I do that?

Maybe posting a giant wall of well formated reads unprompted and calling everyone but the next 2 lynches town

[Ankamius]

To put it another way, it feels like you're detached from your solving

[Dunnstral]

In a world where I am town, do I have reason to believe the general consensus is wrong?

You will soon

[Ankamius]

This game is starting to be a headache

[SXTLHGaiden]

VOTE: Deasvail/Cephrir

So I'll move my vote there and won't be surprised if I end up dead soon

If you hammer before Kagami can check in she'll be *steamed* emoji in the dead thread

UNVOTE: Bitmap

I'll give you some room

changing your votes while i sleep.
cowards

[DeasVail]

I’m going to sleep now and I’m kind of done with talking about myself.

[Dunnstral]

[Firebringer]

I feel like it’s a more relevant question for someone who is scumreading me to answer because in saying that the way

I don't know you very well though. I think a lot of people here have that problem? Not sure your experience with everyone here.

Let me say this: I read the tone of your posts. I get no tone when you talk about the game. So when you speak about your reads its like I am reading someone narrating a show, without giving me thought into how someone is actually going emotionally into it. The only difference is your interactions with Cephrir. Which makes sense since you two know each other.

I see you have reads. I see you give reasons. I can see one reason going to the read. I think you are missing a lot and I wonder why the things you place into importance are important, and when your reads are developing the connections go ???, like they make sense but seem artificial/superficial. Feels like again the narrator part where they just see X and say Y. I think your reads aren't indepth, but they look it from how much you have to say about them.

[Kagami]

Checking in folks!

Discussion has been good, interesting stuff.

In general, I don't have the warm fuzzies on GR-creature that most of the party seems to have, and if FB-Shiro are town, then I'm looking very hard at GR's progression on FB-Shiro + readslist (and interaction with me specifically) in the context of oka-scum.

I saw the FB-Shiro defense from oka, but I'm not sure that's an open and shut case, and Dunn seems to have arrived at the same place there. In particular, I don't understand why oka would treat the pair as a unit in defending scum-them rather than specifically argue that the town half is town and the scum half isn't sufficiently disagreeable to lynch.

I also don't know if there's enough to suggest DunnMap is clean from Oka-Gamma interactions. There's certainly a special interest in minor things about Bitmap while ignoring most of the playerlist.

[Ankamius]

Where are you overall atm Kagami?

[Kagami]

I'm trying to think about where the correct lynch is here, which is mostly going to depend on who I would think is scum with Bitmap if he is indeed a scummerino.

Would also be pretty funny if it were FB AND Shiro, hence oka's non-specific defense of the pair and the initial disinterest in pairing up.