Newbie 1944 Mafia PT

[insomnia]

I'll also help your villager game while you're scum.

Stoney pointed out something that could've been lethal to me if I wasn't a somewhat universal town read within the game.

My wall said : Bottom-line, Holden is scum... when I've been talking about Hectic for the whole time.

This is a scum tell. Use it wisely. Scum come from the informed mentality, and so they get names mixed up, their minds are hard-wired to not remember names, they're hardwired to only remember who's their scum partner. Everyone else doesn't matter.

So they often times get people mixed up because of that. For them, everyone's a villager.

If you see someone mixing up names, be weary of this tell.

[insomnia]

I don't think anyone here is at a high enough level to figure this out so I'm not worrying too much about it, mainly because their names are really similar and given that I'm a town read anyway, they'll let me slide. They shouldn't.

[insomnia]

I'm given way too much room to breathe, I found my wall weak.

[insomnia]

I'm given way too much room to breathe, I found my wall weak.

[Fugitive]

Dude, I'm having the exact same problem with Holden/Hectic, they're so similar in my mind. I mixed them up almost immediately into the game on page 1-2, but I think it was early enough nobody thought much of it.

[Fugitive]

Also, you're really singularly focused on stoney/hectic. Your judgment call: but would spreading your focus out seem more townie?

[Fugitive]

For real though I definitely only skimmed your wall

[Fugitive]

I definitely just mixed up emps and Cheeto--weird timing. I just mixed up their slot replacement though and not their gameplay, so I think it'll be fine.

[Fugitive]

Thoughts on who to NK? I'm still good with emps tbh, but he is getting scum-read a fair amount and not really contributing after his initial push, so I think I could make a decent case against him. I'm getting some PR vibes from him too.

Holden or Hectic would also make decent kills and I don't think they'd be doc targets.

Good a chance a doc would protect Cheeto, but it might be worth a shot, he's probably our biggest threat.

We could be generous and kill NAS for maximum lolz.

[insomnia]

I’ll try and see who might be a PR and let you know

Actually think Hectic has decent PR equity, something like a cop or tracker I think

[insomnia]

I haven't read much, but I have a theory.

Try pushing NAS tomorrow. If someone feels uneasy about that, they're probably the cop / tracker with a check on them.

If not, then it's probably like a doc / jk setup is my guess.

Cop / tracker would always check NAS because of the low amount of posts and suspicion.

If we wanna speculate a cop setup, we can just kill NAS because he'd most likely be the check. Or we could try pushing him tomorrow and let the cop out himself by defending him.

Not a lot of people were opposed to it so whoever has a sudden change of heart then he's most likely a PR.

[insomnia]

With that being said, I'd still like to kill Hectic.

[insomnia]

I think the both of us are safe here. If I get cop checked or something and cop comes out, I'll CC immediately and say the reason I've been more lurking is because I didn't want to attract attention.

So I'd like to carry the kill in case I get checked.

shoot : Hectic

You can change it if you disagree, I think the kill throws town off hard and not sure if it ties us at all.

[insomnia]

I'm not sure how this kill helps us over time or if it ties us to anything, I just feel like he could be a PR here.

The way he started was really strong and then he just wanted to make himself unseen. If he's a PR and I get accused for it I can also match it to him playing the same as a PR like the wolf archetype because he didn't want to be under the spot light anymore. I don't know. Might be wrong.

[insomnia]

I usually am good with identifying PRs on instinct, I should hit a PR by next night IMO.

Also, I would probably look into who wanted to wait a lot of time for Dragon to claim. A PR could be projecting and because he's aware how important they are, they are bound to be extra careful even if they shouldn't. So let me see if this happened in the thread with the DragonKnight intent to get hammered.

[insomnia]

Oh seems like Dragon declared intent like 3 times. A combination of guts and this thing that I talked about without being aware Hectic actually did it.

[insomnia]

Hectic* declared intent.

[insomnia]

And + if we kill hectic then we don't have to get him mixed up with holden lmfao

[Fugitive]

Yeah, wouldn't surprise me if Hectic was a PR either based on some new-ish player PR tells. And it'll definitely throw town for a loop because he was taking a bit of heat for being possible scum. Though I'd still be fine with Cheeto or emps if you felt like switching.

I can push NAS lynch a little bit, but after Dragon flipped town, I think people will be uneasy about lynching the newbie just for being a terrible player. I'm sure I can play it up as me just not being a very good player though, as opposed to me being scummy and pushing an easy lynch.

As a cop/tracker I would never waste my check on NAS though, b/c he's inactive and chances are he wouldn't participate in the NK, so I'm not sure I agree with you on that theory.

[insomnia]

Well, you get no information from NAS so a cop would check there, why don't you think a cop would check there? He has no posts so you don't know his alignment at all.

[insomnia]

Then in the case that the cop is someone else, they'd probably check Stoney / Hectic anyway because of my push

[insomnia]

If we get the cop out then this is going to be an extra easy game

if there's no cop, that's even better

[Fugitive]

As a cop I usually like to know the alignment of a more active player, especially one I suspect but might not be town's priority to lynch. That might just be me though.

[insomnia]

I feel like emps doesn't play PR like that, not sure. I might be wrong.

Cheetory...hmmmm. Not sure.

I really think Hectic's a PR hit if you ask me

[Fugitive]

Hopefully, if there is one, they check Hectic. I think he's a great candidate for a track/investigate. Definitely won't be doc saved either.