Role Call I (Game Over)

Jingle · Post Post #1775 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:03 pm

In post 1773, pisskop wrote:Youre town

I'm starting to think scum role pms are a distant day dream. That lost promised land of being able to manipulate people with impunity.

callforjudgement · Post Post #1776 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:04 pm

Game statusFailed proposals:

Spoiler: momo's proposal

Spoiler: Vecna's proposal

Spoiler: popsofctown's proposal

Spoiler: Lil Uzi Vert's proposal

Spoiler: AP's proposal

Spoiler: Hidden Happiness's proposal

Current proposal (by Iconeum):

1-shot Gladiator
: CheekyTeeky
Inactive
: Creature
Day 5 Innocent Child
: Nero Cain
Inventor
: apthet
Day 3 King
: Jingle
Macho
: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller
: momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector
: Gamma Emerald
Neighbour
: popsofctown
Neighbour
: Vecna
Timid
: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup
: pisskop
Vanilla
: Iconeum
Compulsive Quitter
: AP

For

(5): Iconeum, CheekyTeeky, popsofctown, Hidden Happiness, momo

Against

(2): Gamma Emerald, AP

Not voting

(7): apthet, pisskop, Creature, Jingle, Nero Cain, Vecna, Lil Uzi Vert

List of roles to distribute

Proposal available

(7): Jingle, apthet, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald, pisskop, Creature

Proposal unavailable

(7): momo, Vecna, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert, AP, Hidden Happiness, Iconeum

To end day with a particular role assignment, one player must propose it, and 8 players vote for it.
Deadline is currently 00:05 UTC on Friday 2 August (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2019-08-02 00:05:00)

). It will be extended when a proposal is made.

Unofficial vote count

Iconeum

(1): Jingle

CheekyTeeky

(1): popsofctown

Hidden Happiness

(1): Iconeum

Vecna

(1): Hidden Happiness

momo

(1): pisskop

These votes don't do anything, but I'm counting them anyway.

Jingle · Post Post #1777 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:10 pm

Hmm. This is an interesting setup.

Have any breaking night strats been discussed?

Have the proposals been forced or voluntary?

Has everyone said what they'd propose given they were the next proposal?

popsofctown · Post Post #1778 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:14 pm

I proposed without telegraphing it in advance. Some people fish around to ask how popular something would be before using up their one proposal on it.
N1 setup doesn't look remotely breakable due to the factional rolestop and one role per player

Creature · Post Post #1779 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:29 pm

What we're voting for?

Jingle · Post Post #1780 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:32 pm

I think there's moderate utility in forcing scummier players to propose first, tbh, to ensure the last proposal isn't in scum's hands.

Goes to scummy:
Compulsive Quitter (Twilight)
Timid (Passive)
Macho (Passive)
1-shot Gladiator (Day) Gladiator should probably be a permaholster, so that can go to someone who isn't trustworthy and if they try to abuse it we just lynch them.
Day 5 Innocent Child (Passive) I'd give this to someone like RC who can be powerful for town but is dangerous as a deepwolf. In absence of someone like RC, probably a weaker scumread, since they're by definition going to stick around for a long time.

Goes to Null:
Neighbour (Passive)
Neighbour (Passive)
Vanilla (Passive)
Odd-Night Motion Detector (Night) - Probably a useless role, given that it looks like most people are going to have night actions.
Inactive (Passive) Similar to Innventor. We can use this to put the most dangerous scum tools out of reach permanently, so it should be someone likely to survive for a long time.
Inventor (Night) We definitely want Inventor to survive, but their actions are easily held accountable the day after they happen, so a weaker townread makes the most sense there.

Goes to Town:
Day 3 King (Passive) - We definitely want King out of scum's hands.
Night 1 Universal Backup (Passive) - Universal Backup should be someone likely to eat a nightkill. Preferably the person most likely to eat a nightkill, to prevent scum from manipulating a negative onto them.
Miller (Passive) We should give this to someone who can be trusted to obvtown without the influence of PR's so that it's completely null.

This is my first instinct with the prioritizing of roles. Top of each of town and scum should be the strongest read of that variety. Is this roughly where the assignments have come from?

If you've assigned in a different way, why and how?

Jingle · Post Post #1781 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:33 pm

In post 1779, Creature wrote:What we're voting for?

Apparently we get to staple things to people's role PMs during the day. We're voting For/Against the most recent proposal.

Creature · Post Post #1782 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:36 pm

Isn't Inactive equivalent to not getting any power role for the rest of the game?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1783 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:37 pm

In post 1780, Jingle wrote:I think there's moderate utility in forcing scummier players to propose first, tbh, to ensure the last proposal isn't in scum's hands.

Goes to scummy:
Compulsive Quitter (Twilight)
Timid (Passive)
Macho (Passive)
1-shot Gladiator (Day) Gladiator should probably be a permaholster, so that can go to someone who isn't trustworthy and if they try to abuse it we just lynch them.
Day 5 Innocent Child (Passive) I'd give this to someone like RC who can be powerful for town but is dangerous as a deepwolf. In absence of someone like RC, probably a weaker scumread, since they're by definition going to stick around for a long time.

Goes to Null:
Neighbour (Passive)
Neighbour (Passive)
Vanilla (Passive)
Odd-Night Motion Detector (Night) - Probably a useless role, given that it looks like most people are going to have night actions.
Inactive (Passive) Similar to Innventor. We can use this to put the most dangerous scum tools out of reach permanently, so it should be someone likely to survive for a long time.
Inventor (Night) We definitely want Inventor to survive, but their actions are easily held accountable the day after they happen, so a weaker townread makes the most sense there.

Goes to Town:
Day 3 King (Passive) - We definitely want King out of scum's hands.
Night 1 Universal Backup (Passive) - Universal Backup should be someone likely to eat a nightkill. Preferably the person most likely to eat a nightkill, to prevent scum from manipulating a negative onto them.
Miller (Passive) We should give this to someone who can be trusted to obvtown without the influence of PR's so that it's completely null.

This is my first instinct with the prioritizing of roles. Top of each of town and scum should be the strongest read of that variety. Is this roughly where the assignments have come from?

If you've assigned in a different way, why and how?

I'll actually engage this later but I suggest everyone respond to this

pisskop · Post Post #1784 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:50 pm

Mad Libs!I saw the post from Jingle, in which he _____ described the roles that were _____. When I read it, I felt _____ that he would _____ so _____. I liked how it was _____ and stated _____ so _____. When I _____ _____ I want to be _____ like _____.

_____ is still _____, and nothing you say will _____ that. When I think about them, I am _____. I _____ the current _____, and you should _____, yourself.

Jingle · Post Post #1785 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:05 pm

In post 1784, pisskop wrote:
Mad Libs!I saw the post from Jingle, in which he _____ described the roles that were _____. When I read it, I felt _____ that he would _____ so _____. I liked how it was _____ and stated _____ so _____. When I _____ _____ I want to be _____ like _____.

_____ is still _____, and nothing you say will _____ that. When I think about them, I am _____. I _____ the current _____, and you should _____, yourself.

You're doing it wrong, mad libs are supposed to specify a part of speech.

popsofctown · Post Post #1786 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:09 pm

This game more badly needs some semblance of dayplay than it needs to get slight edges from figuring out whether inactive is for scumreads or townreads or whatever

Jingle · Post Post #1787 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:15 pm

This is a semblance of dayplay.

I'm trying to figure out why 7 people have made the assignments that they have. That's pretty much the only thing I CAN contribute until I'm caught up.

If you want more traditional dayplay, tell me who is scummy/towny and why.

Gollum · Post Post #1788 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:25 pm

against

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #1789 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:09 pm

I'm slightly worried about PK having universal backup but I suppose that role would resolve itself assuming scum attempt to kill a good PR.

pisskop · Post Post #1790 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:10 pm

Yea but ive obvtowned so its cool.

Actually Id rather not have that role either tbh

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #1791 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:11 pm

In post 1756, AP wrote:
In post 1752, apthet wrote:I have actually been combining the two and watching John Oliver and Colbert to exclusively inform my reads in this game. It has not been successful.
To be better informed you need to get a
MOLE
to infiltrate Dr Evil's organization.

VOTE: AGAINST

My
current
best guess for a scum team is Iconeum+CheekyTeeky+pisskop (Don't ask. I won't tell)

Lol really you go from hard defending me to omgusing me?

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #1792 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:12 pm

In post 1790, pisskop wrote:Yea but ive obvtowned so its cool.

Actually Id rather not have that role either tbh

You wouldn't lie to me would you? *flutters innocent eyes*

pisskop · Post Post #1793 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:14 pm

If there is one thing Ive learned in life is that pretty girls with ambition will lie to me.

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #1794 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:15 pm

Nice dodge.

pisskop · Post Post #1795 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:16 pm

I try :b

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1796 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:21 pm

In post 1791, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 1756, AP wrote:
In post 1752, apthet wrote:I have actually been combining the two and watching John Oliver and Colbert to exclusively inform my reads in this game. It has not been successful.
To be better informed you need to get a
MOLE
to infiltrate Dr Evil's organization.

VOTE: AGAINST

My
current
best guess for a scum team is Iconeum+CheekyTeeky+pisskop (Don't ask. I won't tell)

Lol really you go from hard defending me to omgusing me?

AP never called you town from my memory, they called you a bad lynch.

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #1797 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:23 pm

In post 1796, Gamma Emerald wrote:AP never called you town from my memory, they called you a bad lynch.

I also never said he called me town. He's been hard defending against lynching me which is about as suss as bandwagoning me when Im inactive.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1798 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:29 pm

Okay. How is that OMGUS anyway?

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #1799 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:01 pm

In post 1798, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay. How is that OMGUS anyway?

He didn't scumread me until I scumread him? I think that's usually how it works. :S