Role Call I (Game Over)

callforjudgement · Post Post #1950 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:20 am

Game statusFailed proposals:

Spoiler: momo's proposal

Spoiler: Vecna's proposal

Spoiler: popsofctown's proposal

Spoiler: Lil Uzi Vert's proposal

Spoiler: AP's proposal

Spoiler: Hidden Happiness's proposal

Current proposal (by Iconeum):

1-shot Gladiator
: CheekyTeeky
Inactive
: Creature
Day 5 Innocent Child
: Nero Cain
Inventor
: apthet
Day 3 King
: Jingle
Macho
: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller
: momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector
: Gamma Emerald
Neighbour
: popsofctown
Neighbour
: Vecna
Timid
: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup
: pisskop
Vanilla
: Iconeum
Compulsive Quitter
: AP

For

(6): Iconeum, popsofctown, Hidden Happiness, momo, Vecna, Lil Uzi Vert

Against

(4): Gamma Emerald, AP, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky

Not voting

(4): apthet, pisskop, Creature, Jingle

List of roles to distribute

Proposal available

(7): Jingle, apthet, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald, pisskop, Creature

Proposal unavailable

(7): momo, Vecna, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert, AP, Hidden Happiness, Iconeum

To end day with a particular role assignment, one player must propose it, and 8 players vote for it.
Nero Cain is V/LA until Internet connection troubles are fixed.
Iconeum is V/LA this weekend.
Deadline is currently 00:05 UTC on Friday 2 August (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2019-08-02 00:05:00)

). It will be extended when a proposal is made.

Unofficial vote count

CheekyTeeky

(1): popsofctown

Hidden Happiness

(1): Iconeum

Vecna

(1): Hidden Happiness

momo

(1): pisskop

These votes don't do anything, but I'm counting them anyway.

apthet · Post Post #1951 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:59 am

In post 1784, pisskop wrote:
Mad Libs!I saw the post from Jingle, in which he
unhelpfully
described the roles that were
up for assignment
. When I read it, I felt
somewhat uncomfortable
that he would
spend so much time on something
so
empty
. I liked how it was

from someone who replaced someone I thought was town
and stated
I'm struggling to find something that fits here
so
deal with it, haters
. When I
read Jingle's next post
I want to be
convinced that they are good and towny
like
Oversoul's posts were
.

apthet
is still
perfect and amazing
, and nothing you say will
change
that. When I think about them, I am
truly dazzled and entralled
. I
am in love with
the current
way that apthet conducts herself
, and you should
think the same thing
, yourself.

In post 1810, Vecna wrote:pure mindblend. he says the things I think so often, even when its some of the more out there type of thoughts. Things that dont occur to scum to talk about.

I've been flipping back and forth on pops for this whole game. Would appreciate if you linked some of those things (maybe we saw the same things, though).

In post 1815, AP wrote:@Creature: Vote AGAINST. At least give me hope. I'm @L-1 with you, Jingle, apthet & pisskop not voting, and that's even assuming the mod will count Nero Cain's (Gollum) vote against.

Ugh... maybe it's the alt gimmick, but I have literally

never

seen this reaction coming from scum on the chopping block. I know I sound like a broken record but out of the current mainstream options I really do prefer Titus (and I think Cheeky is better than AP for that matter).

Spoiler: Yet another example of popsofctown being a really cool person that I wish I could locktown so that we can just be friends.

In post 1861, Vecna wrote:These are always the moments i hate. When the gratification of finally seeing a flip is so close.. yet it might still take forever to happen.

What do you think about AP's super focused / defensive reaction to the wagon?
Does anyone know if he's done this before?

In post 1923, Creature wrote:
In post 1918, Vecna wrote:but if you vote in favour of this wonderful proposal, you'll at least have some time to catch up
This same proposal is suggesting me to not have any power role for the rest of the game though.

Ugh, town post. ><

In post 1943, Creature wrote:if I obvtown enough

Another town post! These replacements are really shaking things up.

apthet · Post Post #1952 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:02 am

Spoiler: Jingle makes posts. Are they good ones? You decide for yourself ~ I think time will tell.

apthet · Post Post #1953 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:06 am

For the record, I think that Jingle is for the most part checking out for me as town. I just think this is something to refer to as a potential association as Jingle's posts have largely been concerned with fighting the AP wagon.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1954 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:08 am

Well AP has kinda the focus rn?
Do you think AP is scum?

AP · Post Post #1955 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:35 am

Since not much is going on, I've decided to do a reread after resetting all my reads and starting from scratch. It's going to be BORING, but I have nothing better to do at the moment.

Oh, and the reason I'm doing this in public is I want people to try and refute what I may have assumed wrong. For example: From the interaction on page 1 I think I can safely assume momo & Jingle are not scum together. Any objections?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1956 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:39 am

That makes sense yes

AP · Post Post #1957 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:41 am

Ohm and I'm working backwards. Rather than looking for associatives I am actually assuming they exist by default and trying to find reasons why it ain't so. The objective is to reduce the possibilities of 3-players scum teams to a minimum before going into which of them is more probable. If no objections are made to the above momo-Jingle statement I will dash out all trios that include both names simultaneously. (Actually that's just an example. In this case I have already ruled them out as partners).

Jingle · Post Post #1958 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:42 am

In post 1955, AP wrote:Any objections?

I object to not being scum with mono and demand an immediate reroll.

Jingle · Post Post #1959 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:46 am

From a lot practical standpoint though, you’re wasting your time with that. There’s like 2200 potential scum teams in a 14 player thread with three scum. Even discounting yourself, each player has to consider 1700 or so teams.

AP · Post Post #1960 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:49 am

In post 27, CheekyTeeky wrote:Really? Pops and Saudade scum.

Silly me, but it's

unlikely

the exact team is Cheeky+pops+pisskop. Not totally ruled out, but far less likely.

And -just to speed it up a little- on page 2 Nero & RC posted, so I remembered the Nero-Vecna and RC-momo fights. I don't think Nero & Vecna van be scum together nor do I think momo-Creature can be scum together either.

P-edit: 1- I am crazy! You already know that. 2- I have some free time to waste. 3- I already listed all possible teams in a spread sheet, and now am working on eliminating some.

Jingle · Post Post #1961 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:01 am

In post 1951, apthet wrote:snip

You're also bad at madlibs. It's supposed to be one word per line.

AP · Post Post #1962 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:14 am

Nothing on pages 3-5

Hidden Happiness · Post Post #1963 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:42 am

AP idk what's wrong with you to want to do that lmao

I was going to argue with you about assuming scum can't fight but it would be super weird for momo to case Oversoul's specific neighbouring like that
I think anyone with eyes could have reminded you these pairings don't exist though

I pray that this proposal doesn't fall through again but in the event we keep cycling through them I'm going to suggest Gamma get the last confirmed propose - Shadowehhzzzz

AP · Post Post #1964 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:46 am

By the end if page 10 I have nothing concrete to add. (I may have relating to how I read individuals, but not in the form of X cannot be scum with Y)

Jingle · Post Post #1965 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:49 am

In post 1945, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 1931, Jingle wrote:AORN, I'd probably prefer switching Ico/AP and You/Momo.
Why would you give miller to a scumread?

Are you saying that Creature is a good cop target?

AP · Post Post #1966 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:54 am

In post 326, Oversoul wrote:Aw momo, I wanted to ask her questions about that

Call me naive, but I don't think this is how scum defends scum. Oversoul probably not scum with RC/Titus/Creature slot? DISCUSS.

AP · Post Post #1967 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:07 am

In post 333, momo wrote:I think it's time we have an official proposal. I think this one is as good as any and I'll be voting for it. Even if it doesn't pass, we need the discussion.

Official Proposal

Timid = Hidden Happiness (Shadoweh/MariaR hydra)
Vanilla = Iconeum
Inventor = popsofctown
Day 5 Innocent Child = Oversoul
Miller = apthet
Neighbour = Nero Cain
1-shot Gladiator = momo
Day 3 King = Vecna
Night 1 Universal Backup = CheekyTeeky
Neighbour = Almost50
Odd-Night Motion Detector = Gamma Emerald
Macho = Lil Uzi Vert
Inactive = Saudade
Compulsive Quitter = Titus

Now this is the first "gold mine". (Note: Reasoning may/may not apply to subsequent proposals. This one was made under certain circumstances with certain players and certain prevailing reads).

Now we already established momo's not scum with Titus. It comes as no surprise that he'd propose to lynch there.
The question is,, does scum!momo do "this"? (yes, I will start by assuming he is scum to be able to dismiss some trios).

P.S. "this" being 2 related variables, such as "give Timid to scum!HH AND Vanilla to scum!Iconeum"?

AP · Post Post #1968 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:21 am

So.. I say momo+HH+Icomeum isn't a thing based on the proposal momo submitted. Does anyone object?

Timid+Inventor is possible (maybe unfavorable for some, but considering the state the game was in I'd say Gladiator+Timid+Inventor would have been acceptable for the scum team to get).

In short, if HH is scum with momo then their third is NOT Iconeum, Suadade or LUV. Scum wouldn't propose to get Gladiator+Timid+Vanilla/Inactive/Macho. Does anyone see different?

Also Gladiator + TWO of Vanilla/Inactive/Macho is not likely. Agreed?

AP · Post Post #1969 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:28 am

In post 340, Oversoul wrote:I don't agree with CheekyTeeky being backup. I think Almost should get that role. I also still want the neighbor role, but if Nero is going to have the other one I will pass.

Cheeky not scum with Oversoul?

AP · Post Post #1970 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:43 am

#Unrelated.

@pops: You once suggested this:

In post 360, popsofctown wrote:Miller: apthet We don't have posts from this player. Miller should go to a high legibility player. It's the opposite of day 5 IC.
I'd want to see this on Oversoul or Almost50 or momo
.

Can you please sum up what made up change your mind about me being worthy of landing Miller to me being worthy of a lynch? I'd appreciate specifics. Thank you.

AP · Post Post #1971 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:53 am

In post 401, Iconeum wrote:VOTE: for

Icon voting for momo's proposal makes him not scum with Titus for sure. Anyone disagree? Do you think Icon would try to bus the slot so early? (P.S. VC is now 2-0 in favor)

AP · Post Post #1972 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:59 am

It's also IMPOSSIBLE (not just inlikely) that Icon would accept being Vanilla with Timid/Inactive as the other scum and the third being lynched.

AP · Post Post #1973 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:03 am

Correction: 2-1. HH had voted against earlier

AP · Post Post #1974 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:04 am

Damn! 3-1. >I< had voted for also.