Newbie 1943: Crosswords (Game Over)

cyrus62 · Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:30 am

watcher aka im seeing who comes off as scumist out of all the post and going to push some one on this day.

eth0s · Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:31 am

In post 1047, Adorable wrote:Between the players I listed as scum on my read list, I'm leaning more on Wheme more likely to be scum. Sera hasn't been online for 11 days and we know for sure she definitely did not kill Cyan and whoever killed Cyan was more likely online yesterday and day before yesterday.

VOTE: Whemestar

Sera's activity is NAI. Scum can still kill even if one of them isn't playing.

osuka · Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:46 am

In post 1044, TemporalLich wrote:osuka - 1033 is a pretty bad post. We're in A3 because Cyan flipped Doc. This seems to be indicative of osuka's low effort play.

i was drunk and i'm not going to blindly trust your cop claim. you're not confirmed until you flip

osuka · Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:49 am

In post 1048, eth0s wrote:OH YEAH one more thing that I didn't really touch on much last night that Sera brought up: why the hell did Cyrus want to put a lynch through so badly while we were waiting on a replacement? I won't attribute that to newb!cyrus. He should know better by now.

so what

do

you attribute that to? in general, being overly lynch happy comes from scum - but town never benefits from d1 NL. which way are you leaning here?

cyrus62 · Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:50 am

yes bit if he flips cop we have no prs and then we have to trust town to find the scum and do you really trust town lol.

cyrus62 · Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:54 am

i mean realy so far only two or three town are good at hunting and looking the rest seem to blindly follow. but heres a another random queston . since we know theres rb out there whats to say lich isnt the rb?

eth0s · Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:00 am

In post 1078, osuka wrote:
In post 1048, eth0s wrote:OH YEAH one more thing that I didn't really touch on much last night that Sera brought up: why the hell did Cyrus want to put a lynch through so badly while we were waiting on a replacement? I won't attribute that to newb!cyrus. He should know better by now.
so what
do
you attribute that to? in general, being overly lynch happy comes from scum - but town never benefits from d1 NL. which way are you leaning here?

We weren't close to the timer. We had 1 waiting replacement, and maybe even 2 waiting replacement when he started pushing a lynch. With 2 or 3 other players lurking. So There was very little encouragement for activity, 1-2 players awaiting replacement (I will check this for sure in a bit) and we had plenty of time yet he wanted to lynch someone. Scumreading that behavior.

eth0s · Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:03 am

In post 1080, cyrus62 wrote:i mean realy so far only two or three town are good at hunting and looking the rest seem to blindly follow. but heres a another random queston . since we know theres rb out there whats to say lich isnt the rb?

we don't know that there is one because lich could be lying. But I actually already brought this possibility up. Well, more like I straight up accused him of being mafia RB

In post 1048, eth0s wrote:
In post 525, TemporalLich wrote:Alright might as well mediumclaim:

I know 300% Phone's "claim" is a fakeclaim
Weird. Phone could have been "claiming" Mafia Rolecop. So how would you 300% know that is false if you aren't scum? hmm

eth0s · Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:04 am

@Mod may we have the timer disabled while we wait for a replacement for Sera? She has been gone for like 11 days and we have had so many people missing. I think the game is negatively impacted by it.

eth0s · Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:09 am

Anyway I have the mafia narrowed down to 4 people now. I don't want to disclose who all 4 of them are yet until I get to interact with some of you more but I will say I am totally okay with a cyrus lynch today and there is one other person I would like to lynch. The other 2 I would compromise on. But like I said, I don't want to go into this too much until I get some more interaction. For now:
VOTE: cyrus62

osuka · Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:15 am

In post 1063, eth0s wrote:
In post 1009, cyrus62 wrote:this is why i was so pisst off off yesterday about both prs being outed now lich may as well just be town but then again it is easy to say your cop as scum maybe the real pr is still hideing still
but i will trust for another day. regardless.
We can't trust for another day. We have to figure out if he is the real PR or not TODAY. Because if he is telling the truth then he dies tonight.

does he really, though? if his cop claim is true, then the setup really does have a roleblocker. Which means that mafia can just keep him blocked, and there is no way for anyone to ever know whether we're in A3 or C1

eth0s · Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:16 am

In post 1045, Baezu wrote:
Vote Count 2.1
With 8 players it takes 5 to lynch

Spangled (1) ~
TenporalLich

TemporalLich (1) ~
osuka

not voting (6) ~
adorable, cyrus62, eth0s, Sera Masumi, spangled, Whemestar

deadline:
(expired on 2019-07-26 13:00:00)

I wanna correct the no longer accurate vote from Osuka so I am gonna post my own unofficial votelist.

Spangled (1/5)

~ TemporalLich 999

Whemestar (1/5)

~ Adorable 1047

cyrus62 (1/5)

~ eth0s 1084

osuka · Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:17 am

In post 1071, eth0s wrote:
In post 1033, osuka wrote:
In post 1026, TemporalLich wrote: if your cop claim is really true, that means there is a 50% chance of a mafia roleblocker
Where are you getting this number? I believe if he is telling the truth then we have to be playing A3 in which case these
IS
a mafia roleblocker.

out of my ass, evidently. I couldn't tell you because I got pretty drunk last night at a concert and don't really recall the thought process behind it. my bad

eth0s · Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:18 am

In post 1085, osuka wrote:
In post 1063, eth0s wrote:
In post 1009, cyrus62 wrote:this is why i was so pisst off off yesterday about both prs being outed now lich may as well just be town but then again it is easy to say your cop as scum maybe the real pr is still hideing still
but i will trust for another day. regardless.
We can't trust for another day. We have to figure out if he is the real PR or not TODAY. Because if he is telling the truth then he dies tonight.
does he really, though? if his cop claim is true, then the setup really does have a roleblocker. Which means that mafia can just keep him blocked, and there is no way for anyone to ever know whether we're in A3 or C1

We lynch the roleblocker and the cop is a threat again. Even moreso due to poe. I didn't wanna spell it out like this but at least one pr, probably 2 have already spelled out their roles on day one so I'm not trying to win the old fashioned way anymore. Gonna take some brute force to win this if Temp isn't lying.

osuka · Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:19 am

In post 1081, eth0s wrote:
In post 1078, osuka wrote:
In post 1048, eth0s wrote:OH YEAH one more thing that I didn't really touch on much last night that Sera brought up: why the hell did Cyrus want to put a lynch through so badly while we were waiting on a replacement? I won't attribute that to newb!cyrus. He should know better by now.
so what
do
you attribute that to? in general, being overly lynch happy comes from scum - but town never benefits from d1 NL. which way are you leaning here?
We weren't close to the timer. We had 1 waiting replacement, and maybe even 2 waiting replacement when he started pushing a lynch. With 2 or 3 other players lurking. So There was very little encouragement for activity, 1-2 players awaiting replacement (I will check this for sure in a bit) and we had plenty of time yet he wanted to lynch someone. Scumreading that behavior.

fair - but wouldn't you say that him pushing for a lynch isn't actually pro-town? We did end up with a no-lynch, so anything short of lynching a claimed pr probably would've been better

osuka · Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:20 am

In post 1083, eth0s wrote:
@Mod may we have the timer disabled while we wait for a replacement for Sera? She has been gone for like 11 days and we have had so many people missing. I think the game is negatively impacted by it.

@mod: seconded

Done

osuka · Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:21 am

In post 1088, eth0s wrote:
In post 1085, osuka wrote:
In post 1063, eth0s wrote:
In post 1009, cyrus62 wrote:this is why i was so pisst off off yesterday about both prs being outed now lich may as well just be town but then again it is easy to say your cop as scum maybe the real pr is still hideing still
but i will trust for another day. regardless.
We can't trust for another day. We have to figure out if he is the real PR or not TODAY. Because if he is telling the truth then he dies tonight.
does he really, though? if his cop claim is true, then the setup really does have a roleblocker. Which means that mafia can just keep him blocked, and there is no way for anyone to ever know whether we're in A3 or C1
We lynch the roleblocker and the cop is a threat again. Even moreso due to poe. I didn't wanna spell it out like this but at least one pr, probably 2 have already spelled out their roles on day one so I'm not trying to win the old fashioned way anymore. Gonna take some brute force to win this if Temp isn't lying.

entertain, for a second, the thought that the roleblocker might actually be in a somewhat comfortable position regarding being lynched. If scum feels like the RBer is in no danger, what is their incentive to kill lich?

eth0s · Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:22 am

Oh and if anyone thinks that my vote on cyrus was sketchy without giving any reasoning, please cut me some slack. Between last night and today I have put almost 10 hours into catching up, taking notes, and posting my thoughts on the game so far. If you want reasoning just check my ISO and look at what I've said about cyrus since the beginning.

eth0s · Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:27 am

In post 1089, osuka wrote:
In post 1081, eth0s wrote:
In post 1078, osuka wrote:
In post 1048, eth0s wrote:OH YEAH one more thing that I didn't really touch on much last night that Sera brought up: why the hell did Cyrus want to put a lynch through so badly while we were waiting on a replacement? I won't attribute that to newb!cyrus. He should know better by now.
so what
do
you attribute that to? in general, being overly lynch happy comes from scum - but town never benefits from d1 NL. which way are you leaning here?
We weren't close to the timer. We had 1 waiting replacement, and maybe even 2 waiting replacement when he started pushing a lynch. With 2 or 3 other players lurking. So There was very little encouragement for activity, 1-2 players awaiting replacement (I will check this for sure in a bit) and we had plenty of time yet he wanted to lynch someone. Scumreading that behavior.
fair - but wouldn't you say that him pushing for a lynch isn't actually pro-town? We did end up with a no-lynch, so anything short of lynching a claimed pr probably would've been better

Either I'm confused or you meant to say "is pro town". But I didn't find it pro town due to the timing. If he wanted to go for a lynch withing, idk the last 30 hours of the timer then yeah that's fine but I'm talking about when there was like 5 days left or something.

In post 1091, osuka wrote:
In post 1088, eth0s wrote:
In post 1085, osuka wrote:
In post 1063, eth0s wrote:
In post 1009, cyrus62 wrote:this is why i was so pisst off off yesterday about both prs being outed now lich may as well just be town but then again it is easy to say your cop as scum maybe the real pr is still hideing still
but i will trust for another day. regardless.
We can't trust for another day. We have to figure out if he is the real PR or not TODAY. Because if he is telling the truth then he dies tonight.
does he really, though? if his cop claim is true, then the setup really does have a roleblocker. Which means that mafia can just keep him blocked, and there is no way for anyone to ever know whether we're in A3 or C1
We lynch the roleblocker and the cop is a threat again. Even moreso due to poe. I didn't wanna spell it out like this but at least one pr, probably 2 have already spelled out their roles on day one so I'm not trying to win the old fashioned way anymore. Gonna take some brute force to win this if Temp isn't lying.
entertain, for a second, the thought that the roleblocker might actually be in a somewhat comfortable position regarding being lynched. If scum feels like the RBer is in no danger, what is their incentive to kill lich?

(this is all assuming lich is telling the truth ofc) It doesn't matter if the MRB does or does not feel comfortable right now. It only matters that he is currently alive. The moment the MRB gets lynched I say they NK Lich. Until then they need to keep him around to continue distracting the town with his scummy plays. They're probably hoping we just lynch him anyway as this town is having trouble forming a wagon and Lich is somewhat of an easy lynch target.

WhemeStar · Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:28 am

Ugh I was hoping day would be extended more cause replacements this fuckin sucks. I’ll read up soon

eth0s · Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:28 am

There are much better players for them to NK if Lich is really RB.

eth0s · Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:30 am

@Whemestar

What do you think of the behavior of the guy you replaced, Phone0Ix?

WhemeStar · Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:30 am

In post 1095, eth0s wrote:There are much better players for them to NK if Lich is really RB.

In what world is Lich RB

WhemeStar · Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:30 am

In post 1096, eth0s wrote:@Whemestar

What do you think of the behavior of the guy you replaced, Phone0Ix?

Idrc about him cause I have his role pm

osuka · Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:46 am

In post 1093, eth0s wrote:Either I'm confused or you meant to say "is pro town"

yes, i did mean that. sorry about the double negative