this is low relevance but I still potentially see this as a taunt. My reasoning is further amplified after Cyan said this
In post 382, Cyan Talon wrote:So we should probably find something to spark discussion with.
Starting with, I'd like to actually express some doubts about Cyrus here. While I appreciate that he's towning up, the town game he previously mentioned shows him being all over the place with his words and actions. Oddly, I find him more organized in this game than in that one, and it's pinging a few alarms.
I'm not keen on voting him for just this, since it could also be a result of him improving and not being fed information by a partner, but I really don't know how someone suddenly goes from newbie spewer to town leader level in the interval of, like, 1 game.
This is probably the weakest of things to suspect someone from, but let's talk about Cyrus if it helps.
It seems cyrus genuinely does want feedback from Cyan, and when I first saw Cyan's flip I was like "oh, the taunt post I made about cyrus could be relevant here since he called out change in Cyrus' meta", but then it turns out Cyan basically screamed I'M A DOCTOR in 2 of his posts so this is probably not worth much as Cyan was destined to die after he claimed.
In post 762, Cyan Talon wrote: In post 757, osuka wrote:so basically what you're saying is that it's impossible to meta read you at this time
It is and it isn't. If you look at his game there, you actually get a peek at how he operates, which I'd say is along the lines of 'moderately unreasonable'.
He might be aware of his meta, he might also be a pretty weird player overall. Right now, I'm leaning on Cyrus being town as a carry-over from said game; there's just the idea that he's being too scummy to be scum that I had in said game, and honestly I'm feeling it here.
If anything is nagging me now, it's the moment he took charge of the town early (current) game before reverting back to his old self.
Notice that last line there. Somewhere between
382 and
762 cyan claims that the leadership part of Cyrus' play has started to disappear. Robb stopped regularly posting at
416 and replaced out entirely at
612. This is more circumstancial evidence that suggests maybe he was getting some advice from Robb in their PT. Is it a coincidence that
416 was rob's last game related post and in
438 cyrus mentions his V/LA? Robb stated that he was going on V/LA in the main thread and continued to stay active, but shortly after he stopped being active, Cyrus is speaking for him?
76 and
82 show cyrus being very attentive to rob's votecount, and perhaps overly cautious about it.
89 looks like cyrus playing mindgames. Pointing out something irrelevant to make someone else look towny while sort of hinting at being glad that rob is no longer L-1.
213 he is once again defending rob. Then once Cyrus made his post saying Rob is vla (which felt very awkward given his ISO, he starts kind of accusing robb in
474 and
476?
In post 494, cyrus62 wrote: In post 490, Sera Masumi wrote: In post 482, TemporalLich wrote:I'm wholly convinced Sera wants to have me at L-1 and not have me at L-1 at the same time. That's not how mafia works.
Which is why I outright voted you and put you at L-1. The math checks out.
Are you going to actually respond to my explanation for why your responses are flawed at best or...?
Also @cyrus- You didn't care about it being L-1 when Phoenix voted Robb back in early Day 1, you were happy to contemplate running my slot into the ground based off a post that you didn't even think was scummy because it was dragging out the day, why is Temp being at L-1 such a big deal for you?
Also I expect you to actually dig into these Red and Robb and Phone suspicions now.
i stated that rob was at l1 and he unvoted so i didnt have to do anything and i didnt vote him now did i
weird.
Then in his next posts (there are so many of them I am tired of linking them all, just look at his ISO) is when he starts kinda defending TemporalLich and agreeing that Spangled and Sera are rolefishing. Now, To me it didn't look like rolefishing at all. Temporal was playing scummy as fuck, and for some reason Cyrus wants to defend him. Which is why Temporal is my 2nd most likely scumpartner for Cyrus.Even if Temporal isn't scum, Cyrus could just be using the opportunity to pocket Temporal and look like he is preventing rolefishing to get towncred. Cyrus probably expected Temporal to get lynched at this point and either knew he would flip town and get towncred, or they are scumpartners and knew he wouldnt have to vote because TL told him he would claim a pr in their private thread.
In post 514, cyrus62 wrote: In post 512, Spangled wrote: In post 507, TemporalLich wrote: In post 504, Spangled wrote:Someone being wrong on a lynch doesn't mean you should lynch them the next day, cyrus. That's just bad tactics.
And we should get Temporal to roleclaim. If he claims PR, and someone CCs, then we lynch one of them and either way we catch scum (because a VT should never fakeclaim. Doing that is gamethrowing).
One scum for one PR is actually not that bad. I don't know what the maths is on that, but I don't think it's bad.
I hope this isn't deliberate rolefishing...
I'm not rolefishing, Temporal, I'm convincing cyrus that a PR outing themselves and one scum doing the same isn't a bad trade.
In the worst case scenario, it is C1, and Temporal is a town PR and claims, and scum CC. We lynch Temporal, someone takes the NK, and then we lynch the scum the next day, and someone takes the next NK.
That leaves us at D3 with 1 scum and 4 town, and lots of associative reads. That isn't even MyLo.
do you see the rows if temp is cop we may just have 6 vt and then we lose are only pr
idk if this is actually sus or not but it feels like it to me after building this case on Cyrus.
In post 539, cyrus62 wrote:i now however scum red spangled and the new guy for pushing for a pr clime so easy.
misrepping and opportunism.
In post 553, cyrus62 wrote:note i havent voted yet so yes you two got 2 points for that play and i wont vote till some one has 10 points
lol
LAMIST and WIFOM
In post 569, cyrus62 wrote: In post 567, Cyan Talon wrote:They pushed for the claim because they had suspicions and wanted them confirmed. If a person behaving weirdly is trying to allude that they are PR or is unintentionally doing so, asking them to confirm it actually makes it a little more helpful, since scum are much better at catching such softs than town, and claiming allows the town to
then lets hope theres a doc right other wise all this did was get a pr killed
lucky doctor guess? Probably irrelevant.
In post 586, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: Sera Masumi because i scum read the way they ran temp to l1 forced a soft and then a hard clam and when they faild to lynch a pr they aim at 3 other towns so i think they are just testing the waters to see who the easiest lynch is.
from 2 points to 10 points really quick eh?
In post 587, cyrus62 wrote:scum lurk and prod doge so they don't get seen as much as town and so ofc i thought connar and phone were scum and he also rvs voted him self and then replaced out he also fake cc a cop role yet you don't aim at phone but instead aims at temp then my self then cyan and then red your not helping town at all .
clearly he equates lurking with being scum, and has made it a point to remind us multiple times how much he posts. LAMIST?
In post 600, cyrus62 wrote: In post 597, Sera Masumi wrote:Also I really don't think arguing with Temp is going to get the town anywhere and just clutter up the thread- I'm going to break from the thread for a while unless anyone has any questions or cases against me; I'm happy to engage with either.
show us your case why your town then defend your self cuse i can case you as scum if you perfer
Lemme threaten to case you as a scum after I already voted for you? this goes back to one of my first major criticisms of cyrus on my catchup posts:
In post 1048, eth0s wrote:
In post 607, cyrus62 wrote:i wanted to get you to realize ev ery thing i am doing isnt scummy
but in town play like you
i am trying this is only my 2nd game ok. i have neverd playd on tos or any scum sight or foum sights so i am doing the best i can and now i am doing the best i can to
prove that i am town like you and temp
so get off my back and i'll get off yours and maybe we can hunt scum together sound fair.
Wait did you just admit that Sera is playing like town and you're only voting her because she is suspicious of you? That's a BIG red flag.
In post 618, cyrus62 wrote: In post 617, Spangled wrote:If by that you're referring to attacking me and Sera over what was ultimately a mistake, I don't believe you are, and I think I've shown why.
let me ask you this why would scum care if you outed a pr. i am calming down now i was pisst off i don't like to lose. i can only sort so much on so little post in 9 days.
still lamist.
In post 680, cyrus62 wrote:i honestly feel spangled was just scum hunting and maybe sera was too what makes me wonder is why did the new guy vote for after you climed pr and no one counter you
flips his perspective without explaining why. Still voting for Sera at this point too.
In post 874, cyrus62 wrote:i wii make this know here and now im not okay with a cyan lynch so i will not vote them
gotta let us know he wont lynch the doctor claim?
In post 908, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: Cyan. after seeing i have no choise i vote cyan not that i wanted to
"oh wait actually I will lynch the doctor claim, even tho I made such a big deal about outing prs!"
