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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:51 pm

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In post 598, Bambi Jay wrote:
In post 586, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 565, Bambi Jay wrote:I'm still waiting on that gamesolve that'll never come from Celestial on Maria. Sad times.
You're aware that read was a test right
It was true in my heart.
if you wanna help me bulli maria i can fakeclaim a daycop guilty on her and we can lynch her would be good times
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:51 pm

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I don't want to vote Kidamn because if RC is town he's vastly overblowing how confident he is because he didn't like that Kidamn made a quip at him so now he wants him out, and if he's scum then yeah, but I don't want to encourage such behavior. My vote is fine where it is

What whemestar is doing rn makes no sense
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:52 pm

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In post 596, Gamma Emerald wrote:Alrighty then. Btw I'm curious what you thought of my RP vote reasoning post since you were/are convinced I was/am scum.
I didn't think you were scum until you came in saying dumbass shit about me scumreading you all game in a game where i townread you most of the time
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:52 pm

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In post 600, Celestial Coordinates wrote:
In post 598, Bambi Jay wrote:
In post 586, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 565, Bambi Jay wrote:I'm still waiting on that gamesolve that'll never come from Celestial on Maria. Sad times.
You're aware that read was a test right
It was true in my heart.
if you wanna help me bulli maria i can fakeclaim a daycop guilty on her and we can lynch her would be good times
Daycops are the stupidest town role.
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:53 pm

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In post 601, Dunnstral wrote:I don't want to vote Kidamn because if RC is town he's vastly overblowing how confident he is because he didn't like that Kidamn made a quip at him so now he wants him out, and if he's scum then yeah, but I don't want to encourage such behavior. My vote is fine where it is
This is untrue.
My scumread on Kidamn is 0% exaggerated. I don't mind being quipped at and I don't know why you would think that what Kidamn posted would antagonize me.
I think that he has very good scum equity and I think that if I'm wrong I'll be able to figure that out in the process of wagoning him and go vote someone else.
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:53 pm

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The only people who have actually antagonized me in this game are FTC and WhemeStar and I'm not voting either of them, though I do think that Whemestar has higher than rand odds of being scum.
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:54 pm

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In post 595, Celestial Coordinates wrote:
In post 590, CloudKicker wrote:Actually, the probabilities would compound considering, for Kid to be scum then you would need to be wrong + rc to be correct versus the odds of only you being wrong.

Also regardless, its a fucking pussy thing to do
this isn't how the math works lol
While being able to do this would be great I've accepted that sometimes it doesn't really work out and I've become a bit more comfortable with compromise
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My only assomption was that you wouldnt bus,that whemenis town and that the events are independent. Please enlighten me on probabilities Mr mathematic
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:55 pm

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In post 602, Celestial Coordinates wrote:
In post 596, Gamma Emerald wrote:Alrighty then. Btw I'm curious what you thought of my RP vote reasoning post since you were/are convinced I was/am scum.
I didn't think you were scum until you came in saying dumbass shit about me scumreading you all game in a game where i townread you most of the time
Understandable
Also @Wheme just looking at what I've done what is your read on me
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:55 pm

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In post 601, Dunnstral wrote:I don't want to vote Kidamn because if RC is town he's vastly overblowing how confident he is because he didn't like that Kidamn made a quip at him so now he wants him out, and if he's scum then yeah, but I don't want to encourage such behavior. My vote is fine where it is

What whemestar is doing rn makes no sense
I voted them before Rc for their bad content, it has nothing to do with him
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:57 pm

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Okay let's say that WhemeStar has slightly above average odds of reading me.
I think that's bullshit, objectively, but I'm going to assume it for the sake of this exercise.

Let's say there's 4 scum and his odds of having correctly pinned me are 5/18.

On the other hand, his odds of being wrong on me are 13/18 and based on my town record over the past year we have lynched scum D1 in 10/16 of those games
130/288 is significantly higher than 5/18 so even if he is above average at reading me and scumreads me (which he's not) it's still objectively correct to sheep me.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:57 pm

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err that's 11/17 sorry.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:58 pm

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In post 609, Celestial Coordinates wrote:Okay let's say that WhemeStar has slightly above average odds of reading me.
I think that's bullshit, objectively, but I'm going to assume it for the sake of this exercise.

Let's say there's 4 scum and his odds of having correctly pinned me are 5/18.

On the other hand, his odds of being wrong on me are 13/18 and based on my town record over the past year we have lynched scum D1 in 10/16 of those games
130/288 is significantly higher than 5/18 so even if he is above average at reading me and scumreads me (which he's not) it's still objectively correct to sheep me.
To be pedantic then, the math was correct, maybe not the number used and that is assuming everything you said is correct
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:59 pm

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In post 611, CloudKicker wrote:To be pedantic then, the math was correct, maybe not the number used and that is assuming everything you said is correct
Which number do you dispute?
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:59 pm

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In post 607, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 602, Celestial Coordinates wrote:
In post 596, Gamma Emerald wrote:Alrighty then. Btw I'm curious what you thought of my RP vote reasoning post since you were/are convinced I was/am scum.
I didn't think you were scum until you came in saying dumbass shit about me scumreading you all game in a game where i townread you most of the time
Understandable
Also @Wheme just looking at what I've done what is your read on me
Your prob town
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:00 pm

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VOTE: Kidamn

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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:00 pm

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In post 609, Celestial Coordinates wrote:Okay let's say that WhemeStar has slightly above average odds of reading me.
I think that's bullshit, objectively, but I'm going to assume it for the sake of this exercise.

Let's say there's 4 scum and his odds of having correctly pinned me are 5/18.

On the other hand, his odds of being wrong on me are 13/18
and based on my town record over the past year we have lynched scum D1 in 10/16 of those games
130/288 is significantly higher than 5/18 so even if he is above average at reading me and scumreads me (which he's not) it's still objectively correct to sheep me.
Would be hilarious if thats a genuine scumslip
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:01 pm

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In post 615, CloudKicker wrote:Would be hilarious if thats a genuine scumslip
How is it a scumslip ever?

If he has 5/18 odds of correctly scumreading me as scum he has 13/18 odds of being wrong on his scumread on me and me being town.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:02 pm

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In post 612, Celestial Coordinates wrote:
In post 611, CloudKicker wrote:To be pedantic then, the math was correct, maybe not the number used and that is assuming everything you said is correct
Which number do you dispute?
None. I dispute your wording when you said “thats now how math works” assuming I made a mistake in understanding how probabilities works, which I did not.
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:03 pm

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Also it completely ignores the fact that it's insufficient to just scumread me. Correctly scumreading me doesn't do town anything if I don't get lynched, and he can't get me lynched.
If I'm town I tend to have no issues killing whoever I want to kill so that 130/288 or whatever it is with the correct numbers is pretty close to the actual odds of getting scum D1 in this game.
None. I dispute your wording when you said “thats now how math works” assuming I made a mistake in understanding how probabilities works, which I did not.
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:04 pm

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CK I agree with CC that it doesn't look like a slip
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:05 pm

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In post 616, Celestial Coordinates wrote:
In post 615, CloudKicker wrote:Would be hilarious if thats a genuine scumslip
How is it a scumslip ever?

If he has 5/18 odds of correctly scumreading me as scum he has 13/18 odds of being wrong on his scumread on me and me being town.
True, I don’t know why but I read it in reverse, disregard the slip post
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:06 pm

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In post 106, Rautherdir wrote:The Rebels are probably town, and they're revealed in the Sample Role PM to use the color green, but it says Sample Role PM and not Sample Town Role PM. While their Win condition is seemingly standard for town it's possible it will change as new information is revealed.
Btw this still doesn't make a lot of sense coming from town who presumably got a role PM with The Rebels in bright green text.
And I still think my reasons for scumreading Kidamn are better than my reasons to scumread Rautherdir :shrug:
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:07 pm

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In post 121, KidAmn wrote:
In post 119, Rautherdir wrote:I'll go with an alternate statement instead of answering that question, I am either aligned with The Rebels or with Simotech, I have no definite knowledge of other alignments right now.
...I can deal with Gamma later.
unvote; vote: Rautherdir
And regarding why I thought Kidamn was their buddy, this seems extremely scumbuddyish on top of everything else I dislike.
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:10 pm

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I dont mins dunking him 2nd
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:10 pm

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Primate feels super lost, not sure if it's town lost or scum lost.
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