Role Call I (Game Over)

[AP]

Apthet Cheeky and A50 are all scum. You and momo are competing townbeards.

I'd

really

love to see Titus' face when the game is over!

[AP]

Btw since you've been rereading how many total people have voted for a proposal that had Titus as CQ?

I'm not going to re-reread, but the Creature can only bge scum with any of Hidden, apthet, Iconeum & you, so I guess these are the four that didn't vote for her lynch as of 1020

[AP]

wait gross now it's a townslip not a scumclaim

I wanted free d1 scum

No it's not. It's a slip alright, but still scum indicative.

OK, so my current reads must be affecting my judgement despite me trying my best to keep them side. I do think it's a townslip now!

[AP]

I am most confident in momo, Oversoul, Iconeum, Vecna, you (pops) all being town, and I have a moderate town read on Gamma, Cheeky, LUV & Nero.

Oh, well. I guess I am no better than anyone else for having my reads totally reversed on some slots. Maybe some of the scum reads on me are justified? *Shrug*

[AP]

Oh, WAIT! That was the MONKEY! Scratch all that. I am not responsible for

HIS

monkey thoughts. After all, you can't convince a monkey to trade his banana with a $100 bill. He'd still think the banana's more valuable!

[AP]

I am anxiously waiting for the first person to yell amished tell!

[CheekyTeeky]

Titus/Hidden Happiness/CheekyTeeky scum team?

I am breaking my "process of elimination" to point out something I've noticed while catching up. momo has been SRing HH all game. He even suggested id RC flipped scum they were next. Yet, not once has actually pushed them for real. It seems as if he has been counting on flipping Titus/Cheeky to clear HH in the future, and here it is so convenient to suggest the scum team to be the 2 "most likely to be lynched slots at the time" + his own scum p for the 1-in-3 rule to apply.

Take this with a grain of salt and put it on the back shelf for now, but I suspect the scum team to be HH+pops+momo from this reread.

@Jingle: If you have the time, would you care to ISO the 3 of them simultaneously and "see if you see what I see"?

Were finally vibing baby!

[CheekyTeeky]

AORN, I'd probably prefer switching Ico/AP and You/Momo.

Why would you give miller to a scumread?

Are you saying that Creature is a good cop target?

What? This is going over my head.

[AP]

Because of this,

a50 is NOT in my D1 lynchpool

.

More than halfway in he still says I am not in his lynchpool. He maintains a scum read on me yet is arguing against it still. I wonder WHY he is supportive of my lynch NOW!

Spoiler: Full post quoted

Alright, guys I'm very sorry that I haven't been on that much lately. Last week, because of fourth of July, i took the entire week of, so my activity was unusual. Back at work and my schedule is kinda annoying but here goes.

I'm going to VOTE: for again.

It's possible that a50 is scum. It's also very possible that Titus is scum. It's also possible that they are scum together.
(My thoughts on this: RC was scummy. Like this is basically objective fact at this time. a50's reaction to RC first posts, the ones that were incredibly sus and eventually resulted in our fight and people scumreading him, was that for the first time, he was townreading RC. The first time RC mentioned a50 was asking him why he wasn't doing anything useful. a50 responds that he has already said that my slot (momo) is the towniest in the game, and he's not going back on that. RC doesn't push him further. This seemed very much like an interaction in between two scumbuddies.

Then, when he was sufficiently townread, a50 went inactive. (To be fair, one could argue that I'm doing the same thing, but ik my motivations are different). When pressure comes on him again, he's right back. It was very un a50-like to basically sit out my and RC's argument. He didn't want to alienate town on his side, but he didn't want to push against his scum buddy either.

Ofc, then a50 could have also been town.

@popsofctown's

about 2 obvscum and 1 deepwolf struck a cord with me. In any situation in which a50 is scum, this statement would most likely be true. But then a50 agreed. That response (1047 to 1046) doesn't seem like something scum would make.

Because of this,

a50 is NOT in my D1 lynchpool

.

Now, moving on to the Titus lynch (and why I have voted for again). I hate to make this argument, because it could very well be interpreted as scummy (but could be towny as well), the Titus lynch gives us the most information.

If Titus is scum, this is obvious. We get a scum lynch, and information.

If Titus is town, we also get a lot of information. Let's be fair, the majority of the substantive interactions D1 have surrounded the slot. Lynching town would be a loss, but it would also give us a lot. It would help differentiate in between town and scum. We could view people on wagons, their tones when interacting with the slot, the level of commitment made.

I don't want to lynch town. I don't think Titus is town. But even if she is, her lynch helps town win the game.

The proposal being voted on right now is a solid available path. Lynching Titus is almost certainly the best path forward. This is why, I must revote for, and why I think the rest of town should too.

[AP]

What? This is going over my head.

I never figured you for a shorty!

[CheekyTeeky]

I'll be your shorty
So what's your final verdict AP have you solved the game yet?

[AP]

Because I'm not sure about this arrangement but I don't want things to drag on too long and it hits key points for me. As such I'm amenable to hammering this at this point.
VOTE: For

And now Gamma makes it 7-4! And now there are literally only 2 teams that can include Creature:

HH+apthet & Icon+apthet. If I take apthet's townslip to be 100% then Creature would also be 100% clear.

[AP]

I'll be your shorty
So what's your final verdict AP have you solved the game yet?

I'm working on it, baby, but I can use a helping hand.

[CheekyTeeky]

Give me your top 5 and I'll ISO.

[AP]

Give me your top 5 and I'll ISO.

You can have my top alright!

OK, let's start with apthet. Can you return a verdict on that one? Or did you mean top 5 SCUM reads?

[AP]

Well yeah.

It's likely mono icon apthet and a50.

Not 100% sure but like 65%.

Geez! If only she didn't include icon AND apthet!!!!

[CheekyTeeky]

Top 5 scum

[Jingle]

AORN, I'd probably prefer switching Ico/AP and You/Momo.

Why would you give miller to a scumread?

Are you saying that Creature is a good cop target?

What? This is going over my head.

If Creat is town, we'll find that out through dayplay. If not, we'll find that out through day play.

Therefore, giving Creat of all people a miller doesn't really matter.

Waiting to hear about AP's conclusions. Probably not going to do a lot of ISO-ing this weekend. Sorry buddy, but I'm being lazy rn.

[AP]

By the end of page 44 the proposal has been rejected. If I rely on my results so far Titus can only be scum with 3 people (again apthet+HH/Iconeum). She's very VERY likely town here.

Now my question is: If I was scum, why would I have switched from voting for to voting against when she was @L-1, and there were already calls for the day to end, AND the tide was already switching against me! Hell, even assuming pops is correct in his 1087 that I'm scum WITH Titus, why would I vote againstb her lynch at this point rather than let the lynch go and earn me some town cred for siding with momo against RC from the beginning AND Titus stating a SR on me?

Btw, I am not trying to argue against my lynch here. I am more trying to understand how the majority of you play the game and develop their reads in general.

[AP]

Top 5 scum

momo, HH, pops & pisskop. I dunno who's 5th. Icon, maybe. Yes.. that's about it.

[AP]

Probably not going to do a lot of ISO-ing this weekend. Sorry buddy, but I'm being lazy rn.

*Sigh* How encouraging!

[AP]

LIV's proposition = not scum with Cheeky

[CheekyTeeky]

Thoughts on Nero?

[CheekyTeeky]

Top 5 scum

momo, HH, pops & pisskop. I dunno who's 5th. Icon, maybe. Yes.. that's about it.

Momo needs to step up and show he wasn't just attempting to town it up early.
Agree on pops/hh do they work with luv?
PK could be better but will do some digging on these people in a bit.

[AP]

pops also not with Cheeky. Oversoul too.

P-edit: Nero is still town. And no. LUV can't be scum with HH.