Starry Night [Game Over]

Shiro · Post Post #4475 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:56 am

In post 4473, Firebringer wrote:shiro that doesn't make sense that ur fine with a TvT pair getting lynched.

I am not fine with it per say, I am at terms with it being a very likely possibility because of my play.

Shiro · Post Post #4476 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:58 am

Like I do believe we can endgame here but I dont think I am capable of convincing anyone that isnt alreayd convinced that I am town.

Ankamius · Post Post #4477 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:00 am

Fire, there's another thing

I'm struggling to reconcile a scum mariar with both oka and GR attempting to discredit me throughout first dance, that doesn't sound very productive considering that mariar and I were synced for most of the game

Shiro · Post Post #4478 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:00 am

Actually I can say something.

If I was scumm this means oka exposed himselkf to protect me while Gol bussed to death to anti spew like ank said and all that to bet everything on me who was scumread by half the game and was doing practically nothing to win us the game.

How can that make sense to anyone is beyond me.

^ This however is shit kind of defence however.

Ankamius · Post Post #4479 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:01 am

GR started first dance calling out oka and shiro, but never had a reason to scumread Shiro until AFTER oka was lynched, then she parked on Shiro for the rest of her time in the game

Shiro · Post Post #4480 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:01 am

Pretty much which means both other scum went all in on their bets on me winning.

Ankamius · Post Post #4481 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:02 am

Also note that GR went antispew after I started calling for Shiro to endgame

Ankamius · Post Post #4482 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:02 am

In post 4480, Shiro wrote:Pretty much which means both other scum went all in on their bets on me winning.

No

GR was looking to endgame herself.

Firebringer · Post Post #4483 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:02 am

isn't goldenrobster a guy?

Shiro · Post Post #4484 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:03 am

That was fairly impossible with creature sayiong from the get go they will walk out on numerous occasion.

Ankamius · Post Post #4485 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:05 am

GR has no real reason to go so hard on Shiro for no reason when she was fully capable of coming up with reasons on her reads

And she came up with the reasoning to scumread Shiro based on Okas posting immediately after okas flip

FB/Shiro was an inevitable flip at that point, so GR pivoted to having 100% correct reads so she would have enough cred to endgame since she had creature pocketed

Ankamius · Post Post #4486 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:06 am

In post 4484, Shiro wrote:That was fairly impossible with creature sayiong from the get go they will walk out on numerous occasion.

how do you know Firebringer wouldn't walk out on you in the end?

how do you know I wouldn't leave mariar like I was pushing to all game?

Shiro · Post Post #4487 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:08 am

Because I know fire enough to know that. I am fairly certain he meant what he said start of the game about walking out. Gun in my head I am certain he wouldnt walk out even if it was optimal play and likewise I would do the same too. Someitmes it is more fun this way.

Nobody has left MariaR on a dance(at least if I recall correctly) multiple people have said they would, not seeing a trend starting now

Also you never really felt like you were truly scumreading her enough to do so. Walking out needs adamant conviction for most people that are analytical and you seem to be the sort.

Shiro · Post Post #4488 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:11 am

In post 3793, Creature wrote:I'm up to leave the dance after both FB/Shiro and Dunn/Bit.

See this? This was honestly all the indication that there was no way Gold was endgaming after my lynch. Creature was never pocketed. I am willing to bet he doesnt kill you or mariar over Gold ever.

Ankamius · Post Post #4489 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:12 am

Another good reason to go antispew, yes?

Shiro · Post Post #4490 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:12 am

In post 3833, Creature wrote:I may opt to leave the dance, but only after the other scum dies.

And there are more instances of him saying that.

Shiro · Post Post #4491 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:13 am

In post 4489, Ankamius wrote:Another good reason to go antispew, yes?

No becuase it is very dumb, there was absolutly no way of creature killing you or mariar over gold, no indication this would ever change either.

Shiro · Post Post #4492 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:13 am

and if it was the case I would have at least attempted to help gold instead of doing nothing and attempting to win on my own.

Ankamius · Post Post #4493 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:14 am

Why would you have to do anything?

Dunnmap was never endgaming and the rest of us were paranoid of each other

Shiro · Post Post #4494 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:16 am

Because no once I believed you actually were leaving MariaR as I pointed out.

Ankamius · Post Post #4495 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:21 am

You thought my pairing was going to endgame?

Shiro · Post Post #4496 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:22 am

Ank did you know we have played scum together ? I just recalled and went to check

(Because you had asked about my scum games )

P.edit

Yes, I very much did.

Ankamius · Post Post #4497 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:26 am

Yes I remember

Ankamius · Post Post #4498 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:28 am

I don't get it shiro, I never really considered making my own pairing thee last pairing until recently, and even then I'm still looking to sort pops primarily to be certain they are endgame worthy

And atm, I find your pairing to be the only one that can't endgame

Shiro · Post Post #4499 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:37 am

Well I was certain about it. And yes you cant see me endgaming which is why it would have been very dumb of me to not do anything to help gold.
I was the least likely to endgame but you assume as scum I, instead of helping gold decided to do nothing and assume I will just maange to win.