Mini 2084: Pokemon Ruby Mafia - Game Over

[Menalque]

How many times do I have to ask you why creature is town before you answer me

[Pine]

Creature’s meta is well-established. He lurks and snipes as scum, is active and takes hard stances as Town. While there is some evidence of this meta evolving in the intervening year or so since I last played with him, I’ve kept an eye out for some details I’d rather not divulge. Some trade secrets need to stay secret.

I do not support a Creature wagon or lynch. RP or Chemist are my preferred for today. I think the third is in {GEmerald, EP} and I’m starting to lean towards EP.

Literally do I have to say this every single game?

There. Is. No. Reason. Why. Meta. Can’t. Evolve. In. This. Game.

It is very simple

Creature has not been doing p much anything

From a strong player (by rep seemingly) that’s antitown play

Yeah, you can bite me. I've been playing with Creature for a couple of years now, and you've known him for about five minutes.

Further, "Creature isn't doing anything" is YOUR interpretation. He's not being an asshole about it, but he's definitely got reads, and they've been evolving in a logical manner. The guy doesn't have to throw himself into the meat grinder of Pink Ball vs GEmerald to "do something," he just has to be scumhunting - and he is.

[Pine]

How many times do I have to ask you why creature is town before you answer me

Approximately negative five times at this point. Just because the explanation wasn't to your liking isn't my problem. That's your own confirmation bias talking, kid.

[Detective Pikachu]

Scum would rather none of them being on the wagon > 1-2 of them being on the wagon > all of them being on the wagon.

They only vote if the mislynch don't get achieved otherwise/may get redirected to one of themselves.

This is a pretty town Creature post imo

I have rn RedPanda, Tim Goodman and Espresso town since my catch up

Still have:
RedPanda
Tim Goodman
EspressoPatronoum
Lil Uzi Vert
as town

Chemist is pretty meh rn

we should probably just do chemist today actually

VOTE: chemist

[Creature]

Actually I agree

VOTE: Chemist

At worst we lynch a potential LyLo liability

[Creature]

I find it easier to read Gamma Emerald this game than Chemist.

[Chemist1422]

Actually I agree

VOTE: Chemist

At worst we lynch a potential LyLo liability

Hi again

[Menalque]

@pine lol so I can read him better after 5 mins than you can after years then?

Your meta argument is shit

Just watched town lose a game to scum!me bc they were overly reliant on urap playing within his meta

[Menalque]

Also what scumhunting? Sheeping tim’s reads from D1 still?

It’s a testament to the fact of how little he’s been doing that he’s one of the top posters here (top poster?) yet I feel like he’s done nothing to get any of his scumreads lynched

[Menalque]

Like if your definition of scumhunting is asserting shit then not following up on it then maybe rethink your definition, kid

[Menalque]

Also interesting that your assessment of creature scum is lurks and snipes which is p much what he’s doing here (suddenly appears when suspicion might be coming his way) while dropping out shade as he goes

Yet you’re too blind to see it

Who’s conf biased again?

[Detective Pikachu]

Yeah but we're not lynching creature because you dislike his playstyle we're lynching scum or at worst probable scum

Creature's reads as town are some of the strongest on site and as scum he busses heavily so there's no reason to not go with his reads even if you scumread him when we have 0 redflips

[Menalque]

Scum would rather none of them being on the wagon > 1-2 of them being on the wagon > all of them being on the wagon.

They only vote if the mislynch don't get achieved otherwise/may get redirected to one of themselves.

This is a pretty town Creature post imo

I have rn RedPanda, Tim Goodman and Espresso town since my catch up

Still have:
RedPanda
Tim Goodman
EspressoPatronoum
Lil Uzi Vert
as town

Chemist is pretty meh rn

we should probably just do chemist today actually

VOTE: chemist

@DP I’m not saying he hasn’t made one or two posts that are town, but is he normally this ineffectual in a game as town?

If not why not?

[Menalque]

Yeah but we're not lynching creature because you dislike his playstyle we're lynching scum or at worst probable scum

Creature's reads as town are some of the strongest on site and as scum he busses heavily so there's no reason to not go with his reads even if you scumread him when we have 0 redflips

I’m not even pushing for a creature lynch atm bc of the logic I explained to EP

[Detective Pikachu]

is he normally this ineffectual in a game as town?

this is easily inside his townrange and outside his comfortable scumrange (although not outside his full scumrange, but he's not on his usual scum autopilot)

[EspressoPatronum]

Also interesting that your assessment of creature scum is lurks and snipes

which is p much what he’s doing here (suddenly appears when suspicion might be coming his way)

while dropping out shade as he goes

Agreed.

If Creature is scum, I could see Pine scum, too. It could help explain Pine's defence of Creature.

[EspressoPatronum]

Yeah but we're not lynching creature because you dislike his playstyle we're lynching scum or at worst probable scum

Creature's reads as town are some of the strongest on site and

as scum he busses heavily

so there's no reason to not go with his reads even if you scumread him when we have 0 redflips

Interesting. This could change things.

[Menalque]

I still wanna know why chem is better than gamma

Yeah, chem!scum is a good flip

But I don’t think chem!town is v useful going into lylo

So I’d rather vote gamma who has I think better odds of being scum (or I think even if you’re not as sold as me the you have to say similar) but whose flip has much more informational quality

[Detective Pikachu]

Cause Gamma's reactions to PB were ... personal a way that surprises me for scum. Not impossible, but surprising.

And PB's ellitell for chemist doesn't seem worthless, frankly.

[Menalque]

Ellitell?

[EspressoPatronum]

Given DP's info on Creature's busing habits, Chemist looks great today.

Either town!Creature has a good read or scum!Creature is busing. It'll also help us cut a lurker before lylo.

[EspressoPatronum]

VOTE: Chemist

[EspressoPatronum]

Ellitell?

What does this mean?

[Chemist1422]

Ellitell?

Yeah what

[Menalque]

I was asking DP the same thing you just asked me EP

Idk about chemist

I think he could be scum by PoE

And that means that if he is it buys me more time to sort

But again, if I am wrong then a town!flip does nothing for me in figuring out where the scum is in lylo