Project ARCH - Epilogue

[CloudKicker]

I also feel less and less inclined to buy wheme shit plays as town

[Dunnstral]

IMO 917 was pretty defensive in a scummy way

That is legit one of the worst people to vig considering his effort is more then likely lacking town.

I saw the votes on Chemist before from some people, why is his lack of effort any less indicative than Chemist's lack of effort lol

The posting between the two seems pretty different to me and yes I'd say Chemist's lack of effort is scummy while Fred the Cat's isn't

[Vifam]

unwnd wagon is bad

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do you scumread anyone who provokes you besides RC Gamma

1) this is a lie, if I were to scumread MariaR for provoking me it would've come a lot sooner
2) I didn't scumread RC because it was equally likely that it was town!RC just being very wrong
3) p sure other people have provoked me without me suspecting them

As far as I remember this is the first time you interacted with her? I won't argue the point of provoking you because apparently that idea is something you get very defensive about, which I imagine means you are uh, provoked. Like, if it didn't bother you? You wouldn't response. You wouldn't care. You're right you didn't scumread RC, but as far as I remember you toyed with the idea of what alignment he was and never gave a solid definition. Why do you feel like you're wrong now? He hasn't been playing any different besides backing off you. This is why I said I feel like you only scumread people who provoke you, because you were getting all mad and frustrated even FULL CAPS about RC's read on you earlier and now it doesn't even matter and he's just town?

Why does the last point matter?

I definitely interacted with Maria earlier. And I only took offense to the "being provoked" thing because it was used to attack my wall when that was extremely not the case, I just took a while because I had some points that criss crossed between posts I was looking at. Yes I did toy with the idea of RC being scum but I figured it was easier to not go with that because if RC were scum then they'd probably get me lynched anyway, and it worked our because by assuming RC was town I got a sense that they were being genuine in pushing me. The reason I was going all caps was because I was convinced RC was wrong about the YGM game, and I stopped yelling when I read that game and realized "oh shit I was the wrong one". The last point matters because it contradicts what you're saying.

[Dunnstral]

What wagon would be good?

[unwnd]

IMO 917 was pretty defensive in a scummy way

That is legit one of the worst people to vig considering his effort is more then likely lacking town.

I saw the votes on Chemist before from some people, why is his lack of effort any less indicative than Chemist's lack of effort lol

The posting between the two seems pretty different to me and yes I'd say Chemist's lack of effort is scummy while Fred the Cat's isn't

I kinda disagree but it's probably not the most interesting talking point. When I ISO'd chemist I think that his way of approaching the thread is different (claiming he's gonna get caught up and doesn't) but they're pretty much the same in terms of uh, effectiveness. Fred isn't trying to fake being interested like Chemist but you can both tell they're not interested in the same way.

[Dunnstral]

I'm not scumreading people based off of effectiveness though

And you didn't put chemist in your list of people to shoot so maybe we should be asking you this and not me

[unwnd]

Why do you scumread anyone who provokes you besides RC Gamma

1) this is a lie, if I were to scumread MariaR for provoking me it would've come a lot sooner
2) I didn't scumread RC because it was equally likely that it was town!RC just being very wrong
3) p sure other people have provoked me without me suspecting them

As far as I remember this is the first time you interacted with her? I won't argue the point of provoking you because apparently that idea is something you get very defensive about, which I imagine means you are uh, provoked. Like, if it didn't bother you? You wouldn't response. You wouldn't care. You're right you didn't scumread RC, but as far as I remember you toyed with the idea of what alignment he was and never gave a solid definition. Why do you feel like you're wrong now? He hasn't been playing any different besides backing off you. This is why I said I feel like you only scumread people who provoke you, because you were getting all mad and frustrated even FULL CAPS about RC's read on you earlier and now it doesn't even matter and he's just town?

Why does the last point matter?

I definitely interacted with Maria earlier. And I only took offense to the "being provoked" thing because it was used to attack my wall when that was extremely not the case, I just took a while because I had some points that criss crossed between posts I was looking at. Yes I did toy with the idea of RC being scum but I figured it was easier to not go with that because if RC were scum then they'd probably get me lynched anyway, and it worked our because by assuming RC was town I got a sense that they were being genuine in pushing me. The reason I was going all caps was because I was convinced RC was wrong about the YGM game, and I stopped yelling when I read that game and realized "oh shit I was the wrong one". The last point matters because it contradicts what you're saying.

I again don't know why you need to explain yourself if you did nothing wrong. This tangent you're getting into and trying to cover all bases makes me feel worse about you than better. I make stupid and shitty reads all the time, let alone embarrass myself

If you accept RC was a bad read, that's fine. Instead you have some coordinated reason as to why it was bad and it comes off like you're self-aware in a way that you don't want anything leading back to you

[CloudKicker]

^ this, monsieurs and madames, is town posting

[CloudKicker]

VOTE: gamma

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do you scumread anyone who provokes you besides RC Gamma

1) this is a lie, if I were to scumread MariaR for provoking me it would've come a lot sooner
2) I didn't scumread RC because it was equally likely that it was town!RC just being very wrong
3) p sure other people have provoked me without me suspecting them

As far as I remember this is the first time you interacted with her? I won't argue the point of provoking you because apparently that idea is something you get very defensive about, which I imagine means you are uh, provoked. Like, if it didn't bother you? You wouldn't response. You wouldn't care. You're right you didn't scumread RC, but as far as I remember you toyed with the idea of what alignment he was and never gave a solid definition. Why do you feel like you're wrong now? He hasn't been playing any different besides backing off you. This is why I said I feel like you only scumread people who provoke you, because you were getting all mad and frustrated even FULL CAPS about RC's read on you earlier and now it doesn't even matter and he's just town?

Why does the last point matter?

I definitely interacted with Maria earlier. And I only took offense to the "being provoked" thing because it was used to attack my wall when that was extremely not the case, I just took a while because I had some points that criss crossed between posts I was looking at. Yes I did toy with the idea of RC being scum but I figured it was easier to not go with that because if RC were scum then they'd probably get me lynched anyway, and it worked our because by assuming RC was town I got a sense that they were being genuine in pushing me. The reason I was going all caps was because I was convinced RC was wrong about the YGM game, and I stopped yelling when I read that game and realized "oh shit I was the wrong one". The last point matters because it contradicts what you're saying.

I again don't know why you need to explain yourself if you did nothing wrong. This tangent you're getting into and trying to cover all bases makes me feel worse about you than better. I make stupid and shitty reads all the time, let alone embarrass myself

If you accept RC was a bad read, that's fine. Instead you have some coordinated reason as to why it was bad and it comes off like you're self-aware in a way that you don't want anything leading back to you

Cool, apparently I'm scum for actually being able to fucking defend myself, piss off. I started explaining myself because you presented a bullshit interpretation of my actions and I wanted to make clear what the actual situation was. Also if you didn't want me doing a war of the words, maybe don't respond to a pointed list with a wall of text?

[Gamma Emerald]

Cloudy I really want you to try and justify unwnd's interactions with your slot as town because they really aren't imo

[unwnd]

For every point made against you have a dismissive response whether it be in the form of (what I assume is) feigned frustration or insinuating that behavior in your response to your own is also scummy because..reasons? Like, you said I shouldn't respond to you with a wall of text as if somehow you responding with a wall of text is why I dislike you, which is not my argument. I dislike the things you are presenting regardless if it's in the form of sentence or paragraph

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: Chemist

[CloudKicker]

Cloudy I really want you to try and justify unwnd's interactions with your slot as town because they really aren't imo

The dichotomy post is probably the worst in the thread and his pushes on me were bad, but can see it coming from town. Tone wise I think he’s doing too good of a job for mefia, shrugs, I am a sucker for tone

[Gamma Emerald]

Well of course you would I'm pushing you
But to respond more thoroughly yeah I'm frustrated because you appear to be using twisty fucking language and when people do that it makes me angry because it's really hard to argue with. And I'm saying the behavior in response to my own is scummy because 1) that's what I think, I already believe you're scum so you resounding like this just reinforces my feelings, and for Maria it's the fact we actually have a good rate of reading each other so for her to consistent push me like this sends alarms ringing in my mind, and it's not the first time she's tried this playing scum against me either. 2) sometimes I just end up reading people based on how they interact with me, I've been told I've had OMGUS style reads in the past.

[Gamma Emerald]

Cloudy I really want you to try and justify unwnd's interactions with your slot as town because they really aren't imo

The dichotomy post is probably the worst in the thread and his pushes on me were bad, but can see it coming from town. Tone wise I think he’s doing too good of a job for mefia, shrugs, I am a sucker for tone

Well that won't convince me because content-wise unwnd is abysmal and if you admit you are weak to that kind of thing maybe you should take it with a grain of salt

[Celestial Coordinates]

Fun to read, I'll see you guys tomorrow.

[CloudKicker]

Cloudy I really want you to try and justify unwnd's interactions with your slot as town because they really aren't imo

The dichotomy post is probably the worst in the thread and his pushes on me were bad, but can see it coming from town. Tone wise I think he’s doing too good of a job for mefia, shrugs, I am a sucker for tone

Well that won't convince me because content-wise unwnd is abysmal and if you admit you are weak to that kind of thing maybe you should take it with a grain of salt

I think hes misguided genuine town, like 90% of every player flipping town.
That being said, I had you as a pretty strong townread and im not very satisfied with my vote I am annoyed i read kid’s past games which made lose my game pov

[CloudKicker]

UNVOTE: i will be reseting a bunch of reads

[Gamma Emerald]

Fyi Cloudy I'm interested in convincing you because a large part of my read on him is based on how he interacted with you. If you can articulate the tone townread and it actually sounds good I'll probably stop voting him

[Celestial Coordinates]

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