Role Call I (Game Over)

Bingle · Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:43 pm

:thorface:

I suppose that's an answer to one of the things. Now the other three, if you don't mind.

popsofctown · Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:44 pm

I hard TR PK are we playing the same game

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:54 pm

In post 2199, Iconeum wrote:hey if you want to lynch me, go for it

i strongly believe AP is playing the lot of you, and i would have taken pisskop be the UB if that means getting the AP lynch

I don't wanna go down AND have pisskop get UB

This makes me think AP and PK are town if Icomeun is scum

Bingle · Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:57 pm

PK can't be town. He's a thief. A hooligan. A marauder!

Vecna · Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:57 pm

In post 2099, Jingle wrote:1-shot Gladiator: CheekyTeeky
Inactive: momo
Day 5 Innocent Child: Nero Cain
Inventor: apthet
Day 3 King: Jingle
Macho: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller: Creature
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Gamma Emerald
Neighbour: popsofctown
Neighbour: Vecna
Timid: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup: pisskop
Vanilla: AP
Compulsive Quitter: Iconeum

I am strongly considering hammering the against and proposing this if I don't like Ico's entry to the thread tomorrow, btw.

I still strongly oppose miller on creature. the rest is absolutely great

Iconeum · Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:58 pm

In post 2197, Bingle wrote:Wat?Can you tell me why you changed the lynch choice you shopped out from Cheeky to AP when you were SR'ing both of them and the person you trusted enough to shop out the list to was SR-ing one of them?
Can you wax poetic about your reads as you whisper sweet nothings into my ear holes?
Can you convince me not to want you dead?

I strongly believe AP is the better lynch over Cheeky. I thought that was obvious? This game needs a flip for many reasons, and my proposal was actually pretty decent. I think it was the first one that got to being 1 vote away of approval. AP went into berserk mode and stopped it.

It would probably be interesting to lynch me, and then on D2 go back and see who flipped their vote from a proposal that I made and supported it, to a proposal that lynches me and supports that, too.

I've been pretty useless so far this game, and if my lynch can achieve something usefull, I'm not gonna argue stopping that. I don't usually really get to be really influential until later game, anyways.

popsofctown · Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:00 pm

In post 2204, Vecna wrote:
In post 2099, Jingle wrote:1-shot Gladiator: CheekyTeeky
Inactive: momo
Day 5 Innocent Child: Nero Cain
Inventor: apthet
Day 3 King: Jingle
Macho: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller: Creature
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Gamma Emerald
Neighbour: popsofctown
Neighbour: Vecna
Timid: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup: pisskop
Vanilla: AP
Compulsive Quitter: Iconeum

I am strongly considering hammering the against and proposing this if I don't like Ico's entry to the thread tomorrow, btw.
I still strongly oppose miller on creature. the rest is absolutely great

Is that a hill you'll die on to keep it from passing?

If you want to be a hipster about Creature's readability there's still other stuff like motiondetect and vig that can handle the slot

Bingle · Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:03 pm

Yeah, okay, I'm really sad I waited 3 days now.

VOTE: For

Iconeum · Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:11 pm

In post 2207, Bingle wrote:Yeah, okay, I'm really sad I waited 3 days now.

VOTE: For

Feels to me like you already made up your mind a while ago

Iconeum · Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:14 pm

In post 1553, Iconeum wrote:My scumpool is A50/CT/Nero
Townpool of Vecna/pisskop/pops/momo

I strongly disagree with Dingle's reads, especially puttin AP so high and Vecna so low

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:17 pm

Wait why do you object to pisskop as N1 UB if you townread him?

Iconeum · Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:21 pm

In post 2210, Gamma Emerald wrote:Wait why do you object to pisskop as N1 UB if you townread him?

it's the kind of mix-ups i make

as town

Bingle · Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:23 pm

In post 1853, Jingle wrote:I want to hear from Ico, I think, about why he specifically wanted AP to be the lynch. The whole back and forth between him and LUV feels off.

Yeah. Right around here, when I said I wanted to engage with you over things, and then waited three days for this.

Vecna · Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:24 pm

In post 2101, AP wrote:
In post 2067, Vecna wrote:what stuck with me is the comment that someone made that AP50 really uses his charisma as scum to survive. After reading that, i view all these posts in that light, and it might make me a bit biased.
WARNING: This is not a FoS. This is me friendly drawing your attention to a faulty logic in your play.

Someone (unspecified) said something (that you personally can verify as either way) so you choose to take it for a fact and build on it. How is that scum "hunting"? because it sounds more like scum "painting".

Is this drawing my attention to this, or -everyone elses attention-?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:26 pm

In post 2211, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2210, Gamma Emerald wrote:Wait why do you object to pisskop as N1 UB if you townread him?
it's the kind of mix-ups i make
as town

Then do you still oppose PK as UB?

Bingle · Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:28 pm

FWIW, actual AP meta:

ime AP tends to refuge in audacity as scum. Reading him is very much like reading FL, in that you look at what he wants to achieve and not how he goes about achieving it. Grain of salt, the vast majority of our interactions are modding, so it's untested, but that's my 50 cents.

callforjudgement · Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:34 pm

Game statusFailed proposals:

Spoiler: momo's proposal

Spoiler: Vecna's proposal

Spoiler: popsofctown's proposal

Spoiler: Lil Uzi Vert's proposal

Spoiler: AP's proposal

Spoiler: Hidden Happiness's proposal

Spoiler: Iconeum's proposal

Current proposal

(by pisskop):

1-shot Gladiator
: CheekyTeeky
Inactive
: momo
Day 5 Innocent Child
: Nero Cain
Inventor
: apthet
Day 3 King
: Bingle
Macho
: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller
: Creature
Odd-Night Motion Detector
: Gamma Emerald
Neighbour
: popsofctown
Neighbour
: Vecna
Timid
: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup
: pisskop
Vanilla
: AP
Compulsive Quitter
: Iconeum

For

(6): pisskop, popsofctown, Hidden Happiness, AP, Gamma Emerald, Bingle

Against

(1): Iconeum

Not voting

(7): apthet, Creature, momo, Lil Uzi Vert, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky, Vecna

List of roles to distribute

Proposal available

(6): Bingle, apthet, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald, Creature

Proposal unavailable

(8): momo, Vecna, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert, AP, Hidden Happiness, Iconeum, pisskop

To end day with a particular role assignment, one player must propose it, and 8 players vote for it.
Nero Cain is V/LA until Internet connection troubles are fixed.
Iconeum is V/LA this weekend.
Deadline is currently 00:05 UTC on Monday 5 August (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2019-08-05 00:05:00)

). It will be extended when a proposal is made.

Unofficial vote count

CheekyTeeky

(1): popsofctown

Hidden Happiness

(1): Iconeum

Vecna

(1): Hidden Happiness

momo

(1): pisskop

These votes don't do anything, but I'm counting them anyway.

Iconeum · Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:38 pm

In post 2214, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2211, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2210, Gamma Emerald wrote:Wait why do you object to pisskop as N1 UB if you townread him?
it's the kind of mix-ups i make
as town
Then do you still oppose PK as UB?

no not at all. at the time of me making that post i had it different in my head. when i started reading back i knew it was a mistake

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:41 pm

Ok, what's your overall opinion on the proposal then

Iconeum · Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:47 pm

It's a good proposal if people are actually scumreading me. It will help them revisit their reads on D2.

I don't want to be lynched, and I will flip town so it's not a good lynch so I will vote against.

But in general, it's a good proposal.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:50 pm

Okay. Had you tried to strain for a reason to still be against it besides you bring CQ I would've reaffirmed my scumread on you but you gain some credit for not doing that

Vecna · Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:03 pm

In post 2202, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2199, Iconeum wrote:hey if you want to lynch me, go for it

i strongly believe AP is playing the lot of you, and i would have taken pisskop be the UB if that means getting the AP lynch

I don't wanna go down AND have pisskop get UB
This makes me think AP and PK are town if Icomeun is scum

What?

Vecna · Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:08 pm

In post 2206, popsofctown wrote:
In post 2204, Vecna wrote:
In post 2099, Jingle wrote:1-shot Gladiator: CheekyTeeky
Inactive: momo
Day 5 Innocent Child: Nero Cain
Inventor: apthet
Day 3 King: Jingle
Macho: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller: Creature
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Gamma Emerald
Neighbour: popsofctown
Neighbour: Vecna
Timid: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup: pisskop
Vanilla: AP
Compulsive Quitter: Iconeum

I am strongly considering hammering the against and proposing this if I don't like Ico's entry to the thread tomorrow, btw.
I still strongly oppose miller on creature. the rest is absolutely great
Is that a hill you'll die on to keep it from passing?

If you want to be a hipster about Creature's readability there's still other stuff like motiondetect and vig that can handle the slot

I doubt im gonna have a hill to begin with, this proposal will be forced through regardless. In record speed too.

I was mainly interested to see how A50 would respond to the reversal of fortunes.

Im still sitting here, not sure if I made a big mistake or not.

Vecna · Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:17 pm

In post 2215, Bingle wrote:FWIW, actual AP meta:

ime AP tends to refuge in audacity as scum. Reading him is very much like reading FL, in that you look at what he wants to achieve and not how he goes about achieving it. Grain of salt, the vast majority of our interactions are modding, so it's untested, but that's my 50 cents.

Once again a post on A50, with some thoughts on recent devellopments. Talk to me some on this if u want.

I cant help going back and forth. The feeling after I vote against is that A50 is only responding to my posts where I lists reasons to be suspicious. And its the type of "fight it with logic, and generalistic statements". It doesnt feel like A50 wants to convince me of anything. More that he wants to show everyone how bad my reasoning is.

The proposal lynching him gets shot down, but where is his focus? On arguing about the stuff that should matter next? From a town pov, shouldnt it be on creating momentum for what he uncovered? Shouldnt he be trying to convince people.momo is scum? Direct the lynch to momo or HH, Which were the centrepieces of most of his recent posts?

Instead he attacks me because I dare.use meta in a post. This is what bothers me a bit now. Clear rejoicing in surviving, sure, fine, but wheres the followup. Why doesnt he want to see if his theory is correct, and fight for a HH lynch?

And jingle, id like you to confront a50 a lot more as well. dont sit on the sidelines letting others do the work if youre.gonna try to be influential please.

momo · Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:29 am

In post 2223, Vecna wrote:
In post 2215, Bingle wrote:FWIW, actual AP meta:

ime AP tends to refuge in audacity as scum. Reading him is very much like reading FL, in that you look at what he wants to achieve and not how he goes about achieving it. Grain of salt, the vast majority of our interactions are modding, so it's untested, but that's my 50 cents.
Once again a post on A50, with some thoughts on recent devellopments. Talk to me some on this if u want.

I cant help going back and forth. The feeling after I vote against is that A50 is only responding to my posts where I lists reasons to be suspicious. And its the type of "fight it with logic, and generalistic statements". It doesnt feel like A50 wants to convince me of anything. More that he wants to show everyone how bad my reasoning is.

The proposal lynching him gets shot down, but where is his focus? On arguing about the stuff that should matter next? From a town pov, shouldnt it be on creating momentum for what he uncovered? Shouldnt he be trying to convince people.momo is scum? Direct the lynch to momo or HH, Which were the centrepieces of most of his recent posts?

Instead he attacks me because I dare.use meta in a post. This is what bothers me a bit now. Clear rejoicing in surviving, sure, fine, but wheres the followup. Why doesnt he want to see if his theory is correct, and fight for a HH lynch?

And jingle, id like you to confront a50 a lot more as well. dont sit on the sidelines letting others do the work if youre.gonna try to be influential please.

This

I’m flip flopping on the slot because i feel like he could be scum or town.