Role Call I (Game Over)

callforjudgement · Post Post #2225 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:16 am

Game statusFailed proposals:

Spoiler: momo's proposal

Spoiler: Vecna's proposal

Spoiler: popsofctown's proposal

Spoiler: Lil Uzi Vert's proposal

Spoiler: AP's proposal

Spoiler: Hidden Happiness's proposal

Spoiler: Iconeum's proposal

Current proposal

(by pisskop):

1-shot Gladiator
: CheekyTeeky
Inactive
: momo
Day 5 Innocent Child
: Nero Cain
Inventor
: apthet
Day 3 King
: Bingle
Macho
: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller
: Creature
Odd-Night Motion Detector
: Gamma Emerald
Neighbour
: popsofctown
Neighbour
: Vecna
Timid
: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup
: pisskop
Vanilla
: AP
Compulsive Quitter
: Iconeum

For

(6): pisskop, popsofctown, Hidden Happiness, AP, Gamma Emerald, Bingle

Against

(1): Iconeum

Not voting

(7): apthet, Creature, momo, Lil Uzi Vert, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky, Vecna

List of roles to distribute

Proposal available

(6): Bingle, apthet, Nero Cain, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald, Creature

Proposal unavailable

(8): momo, Vecna, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert, AP, Hidden Happiness, Iconeum, pisskop

To end day with a particular role assignment, one player must propose it, and 8 players vote for it.
Nero Cain is V/LA until Internet connection troubles are fixed.
Iconeum is V/LA this weekend.
Deadline is currently 00:05 UTC on Monday 5 August (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2019-08-05 00:05:00)

). It will be extended when a proposal is made.

Unofficial vote count

CheekyTeeky

(1): popsofctown

Hidden Happiness

(1): Iconeum

Vecna

(1): Hidden Happiness

momo

(1): pisskop

These votes don't do anything, but I'm counting them anyway.

Vecna · Post Post #2226 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:01 am

I dont know, this proposal is everything I thought I had to fight for, minus a few details, but I still have the feeling of pending doom.

Never had a real scumread on the Icon slot, yet I have the feeling people are just voting it to get to a concensus read because a few loud people have siggested it to be scum.

Can someone, or better yet, a few people, give reasons for why this is a good lynch? Put my mind at ease. let me know why youre behind this lynch (without pointing to something someone else has said).

Jingle, since youre our day3 king, to you I ask in particular: Why werent you so inquisitive when icon got put on the chopping block? You seemed to want a lot of insurrance for the A50 lynch, but Im not sensing that now. What put your mind at ease that this is a good lynch?

-Please dont hammer quite yet-

Vecna · Post Post #2227 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:02 am

also, airports woo. heading home after my marriage and 2.5 months in africa.

popsofctown · Post Post #2228 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:29 am

It's probably a terrible and lazy lynch, Iconeum can be really valuable in the endgame.

popsofctown · Post Post #2229 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:30 am

do u feel better

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #2230 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:51 am

Why did we give Creature Miller again?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2231 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:04 am

In post 2230, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why did we give Creature Miller again?

Why wouldn't we, he's one of the more readable players here

popsofctown · Post Post #2232 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:04 am

You should give me miller
I'm super fun to read

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #2233 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:09 am

In post 2231, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2230, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why did we give Creature Miller again?
Why wouldn't we, he's one of the more readable players here

Not anymore.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2234 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:30 am

In post 2233, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 2231, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2230, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why did we give Creature Miller again?
Why wouldn't we, he's one of the more readable players here
Not anymore.

Not by straight activity no, but the Creature Scum Checklist^TM isn't just based on activity

popsofctown · Post Post #2235 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:47 am

LUV vote for or against

apthet · Post Post #2236 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:15 am

In post 1954, Gamma Emerald wrote:Well AP has kinda the focus rn?
Do you think AP is scum?

Hm. I'm going to say no, I don't. But I would expect Jingle to be trying to send out feelers to form as many townreads as possible, given that he stressed what roles *should* be going to town in his earlier setup discussion post. In the end he's still town in my book. I just wanted to draw attention to it.

In post 1991, AP wrote:I mean, just look at 609 FGS. He's lining up FIVE lynches ahead. FIVE. All scum need id 4 mislynches to win this. So, yeah, without amy other association he sure looks like scum trying to manipulate the game in his favor.

This seems to be more from his personality than anything. I do think that momo coming in strong and doing a fadeaway is interesting though and needs to be noted.

In post 2067, Vecna wrote:I could go back and try to remember which ones they were, but seeing how most of it is a while back now, it might not sound too great.

This is sort of more on the theoretical discussion but I think that Old Town Posts (by Lil Nas X) losing their luster in the public consciousness over time is good by design given that it is very doable for any capable scum player to make at least one super town post.

I also share a good amount of your concerns with AP's logic. AP: I think that your reasoning overall seems really susceptible to a good clean bus. I'm also concerned that so many people seem to be letting him off the hook based on a single high-effort retrospective that doesn't really shout all that towny to me and I can't help but wonder if there are some suspicious dynamics at play. More so, I think this is exactly the play that scum on the chopping block makes: make a big structured series of posts looking back and talking about all sorts of stuff that I don't find exceptionally helpful.

In post 2137, Jingle wrote:Sorry this took so long, but I got distracted by site chat.

Sort of a suspicious sentence... there's a lot of self-consciousness behind it to me. He seems to be thinking, "I hope no one calls me out on my post taking too long, better preempt it with an explananation." Admit that I might be suspicion-tunnelling here though. But would definitely need to be reaffirmed that Jingle is town at this stage in the game.

In post 2140, popsofctown wrote:I will be changing my avatar to Scholarship Student Isis when this is finalized so that there is minimal confusion for the players.

I looked up Scholarship Student Isis and I still don't think I understand. What scholarship? What college? Why is she a monster in a mobile game? She should be focusing on her education! Goodness!

In post 2227, Vecna wrote:also, airports woo. heading home after my marriage and 2.5 months in africa.

Congrats? Wow! Congrats.

In post 2226, Vecna wrote:Can someone, or better yet, a few people, give reasons for why this is a good lynch? Put my mind at ease. let me know why youre behind this lynch (without pointing to something someone else has said).

I'll go on record and say that I don't think it's good. Given recent events I would actually be happier with AP.

popsofctown · Post Post #2237 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:41 am

She attends PAD Academy, for the record.
I don't know how she got her scholarship. Maybe she resurrected the dean of the school from death and got some favoritism

popsofctown · Post Post #2238 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:43 am

It is crazy that we've moved onto such an unpopular lynch

Next game day we really need to figure out which vote:againsts were truly disingenuous that made this happen, someone voted down d5 IC on a partner for sure.

pisskop · Post Post #2239 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:06 am

In post 2191, Iconeum wrote:And in what world is letting pisskop have the UB a good decision

Ummm I know right? id rather have roleblocker or gladiator

popsofctown · Post Post #2240 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:07 am

ugh

44 billion choices guys

pisskop · Post Post #2241 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:08 am

In post 2193, popsofctown wrote:Please draw CT as an openwolf instead of using text.

pisskop · Post Post #2242 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:10 am

In post 2203, Bingle wrote:PK can't be town. He's a thief. A hooligan. A marauder!

A cool guy would let me sheep his proposal and let me take the credit . . .

pisskop · Post Post #2243 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:11 am

It was a pretty top tier list.

popsofctown · Post Post #2244 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:11 am

Fox Falco Marth Sheik

pisskop · Post Post #2245 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:12 am

In post 2215, Bingle wrote:FWIW, actual AP meta:

ime AP tends to refuge in audacity as scum. Reading him is very much like reading FL, in that you look at what he wants to achieve and not how he goes about achieving it. Grain of salt, the vast majority of our interactions are modding, so it's untested, but that's my 50 cents.

yea. actually. Except I feel like I have a better grasp on Boons

pisskop · Post Post #2246 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:29 am

In post 2244, popsofctown wrote:Fox Falco Marth Sheik

I purposely chose falco, gannon, link, and luigi

AP · Post Post #2247 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:30 am

In post 2188, Iconeum wrote:VOTE: against

mistakes are made

AP · Post Post #2248 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:34 am

In post 2191, Iconeum wrote:And in what world is letting pisskop have the UB a good decision?

YOUR PROPOSAL had PK assigned the UB role!!!

AP · Post Post #2249 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:39 am

In post 2197, Bingle wrote:
In post 2191, Iconeum wrote:And in what world is letting pisskop have the UB a good decision?

In post 2183, callforjudgement wrote:Spoiler: Iconeum's proposal
1-shot Gladiator: CheekyTeeky
Inactive: Creature
Day 5 Innocent Child: Nero Cain
Inventor: apthet
Day 3 King: Bingle
Macho: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller: momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Gamma Emerald
Neighbour: popsofctown
Neighbour: Vecna
Timid: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup: pisskop
Vanilla: Iconeum
Compulsive Quitter: AP
Wat?

Can you tell me why you changed the lynch choice you shopped out from Cheeky to AP when you were SR'ing both of them and the person you trusted enough to shop out the list to was SR-ing one of them?

Can you wax poetic about your reads as you whisper sweet nothings into my ear holes?

Can you convince me not to want you dead?

GOOD! Someone else noticed. I'd say not knowing what you yourself had just proposed is a scum claim. Icon was looking for a random reason to attack the new proposal and he totally forgot he had the same role assigned to the same player he is now attacking. At the very least it proves he didn't pay attention to the role assignments on his own proposal which means he was only interested in certain roles going to/kept from certain people.