a 13p pre-designed setup by Ircher


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a 13p pre-designed setup by Ircher

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:29 pm

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w/ mastina
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:32 pm

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Basic Information:

Number of Players = 13
Faction Ratio = 10:3

Public Setup Information:

1. This setup is semi-open. Only the following (possibly modified) roles may appear in the game (as either alignment except as noted otherwise in the normal guidelines): Vanilla, Cop, Doctor, Tracker, Watcher, Follower, Voyeur, Roleblocker, Jailkeeper, Strongman, and Miller. Furthermore, only the following modifiers may be used: Any Night Specific (e.g.: Odd Night, Even Night, etc.), X-Shot, Bulletproof, Ascetic, Weak, Loyal, Ninja, Multitasking, and Backup.
2. It is explicitly confirmed that this setup consists of 10 Town and 3 Mafia.
3. It is explicitly confirmed that mafia possess daytalk.

Role List:

1. Town Novice Cop
2. Town 3-Shot Doctor
3. Town Tracker
4. Vanilla Townie
5. Vanilla Townie
6. Vanilla Townie
7. Vanilla Townie
8. Vanilla Townie
9. Vanilla Townie
10. Vanilla Townie
11. Mafia Multitasking Follower
12. Mafia 1-Shot Roleblocker
13. Mafia 1-Shot Roleblocker

Role PMs:

Spoiler: Town Novice Cop
Welcome, {Player}, to Mini Normal {X}: {Title}.
You are a
Town Novice Cop
!

On any night besides night one, you may attempt to investigate a player to learn whether that player is town or not town.
Success Town{Player} is aligned with the town.

Success Mafia{Player} is aligned with the mafia.

FailureNo Result: You could not obtain a result on {Player}.


You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Spoiler: Town 3-Shot Doctor
Welcome, {Player}, to Mini Normal {X}: {Title}.
You are a
Town 3-Shot Doctor
!

Three times per game, you may attempt to protect another player at night from a single kill attempt.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Spoiler: Town Tracker
Welcome, {Player}, to Mini Normal {X}: {Title}.
You are a
Town Tracker
!

Each night, you may attempt to track a player and learn who they targeted.
Success VisitedYou saw {Player} visit {Target_One} and {Target_Two}.

Success Saw NothingYou didn't see {Player} visit anyone.

FailureNo Result: You could not obtain a result on {Player}.


You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Spoiler: Vanilla Townie
Welcome to Mini Normal {X}: {Title}.
You are a
Vanilla Townie
!

You possess no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Spoiler: Mafia Multitasking Follower
Welcome, {Player}, to Mini Normal {X}: {Title}.
You are a
Mafia Multitasking Follower
!

Each night, you may attempt to follow a player learning what type(s) of action(s) that player performed according to Natural Action Resolution/Normal Game. You may perform multiple actions in a single night (e.g.: follow a player and kill a player).

Success VisitedYou saw {Player} perform {Action_Type_One} and {Action_Type_Two}.

Success Saw NothingYou didn't see {Player} perform anything.

FailureNo Result: You could not obtain a result on {Player}.


As a member of the mafia, you share their factional communication abilities and factional kill. More information will be sent in a separate pm.

You win when all threats to the mafia are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Spoiler: Mafia 1-Shot Roleblocker
Welcome, {Player}, to Mini Normal {X}: {Title}.
You are a
Mafia 1-Shot Roleblocker
!

Once per game, you may attempt to block a player from acting.

As a member of the mafia, you share their factional communication abilities and factional kill. More information will be sent in a separate pm.

You win when all threats to the mafia are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Spoiler: Mafia 1-Shot Roleblocker
Welcome, {Player}, to Mini Normal {X}: {Title}.
You are a
Mafia 1-Shot Roleblocker
!

Once per game, you may attempt to block a player from acting.

As a member of the mafia, you share their factional communication abilities and factional kill. More information will be sent in a separate pm.

You win when all threats to the mafia are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Spoiler: Separate Mafia PM
{X}, {Y}, and {Z} are the mafia. Your private thread is located here. You may converse at any time.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:07 pm

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If this scumteam were all goons and lacked daytalk I'd still call this setup scumsided; if this scumteam were all goons and lacked daytalk and the modifiers from the town PRs were removed, then it'd be more in the range of balanced. (Okay that'd be taking things a little too far and make it townsided, but that's the level of change I'm talking about.) We're not talking, "scum win this 55% of the time".

We're talking, with this setup, "scum win 95% of the time". Scum are way too strong and town way too weak here.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:45 am

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Basic Information:

Number of Players = 13
Faction Ratio = 10:3

Public Setup Information:

1. This setup is semi-open. Only the following (possibly modified) roles may appear in the game (as either alignment except as noted otherwise in the normal guidelines): Vanilla, Cop, Doctor, Tracker, Watcher, Follower, Voyeur, Roleblocker, and Jailkeeper. Furthermore, only the following modifiers may be used: Any Night Specific (e.g.: Odd Night, Even Night, etc.), X-Shot, Bulletproof, Weak, Loyal, Ninja, Strongman, Multitasking, and Backup.
2. It is explicitly confirmed that this setup consists of 10 Town and 3 Mafia.
3. It is explicitly confirmed that mafia possess daytalk.

Role List:

1. Town Novice Cop
2. Town Multitasking Tracker Voyeur
3. Town Doctor
4. Town N2 N3 N5 N7 N11 Bulletproof
5. Vanilla Townie
6. Vanilla Townie
7. Vanilla Townie
8. Vanilla Townie
9. Vanilla Townie
10. Vanilla Townie
11. Mafia Multitasking Follower Voyeur
12. Mafia 1-Shot Strongman
13. Mafia Goon

Role PMs:

Spoiler: Town Novice Cop
Welcome, {Player}, to Mini Normal {X}: {Title}.
You are a
Town Novice Cop
!

On any night besides night one, you may attempt to investigate a player to learn whether that player is town or not town.
Success Town{Player} is aligned with the town.

Success Mafia{Player} is aligned with the mafia.

FailureNo Result: You could not obtain a result on {Player}.


You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Spoiler: Town Multitasking Tracker Voyeur
Welcome, {Player}, to Mini Normal {X}: {Title}.
You are a
Town Multitasking Tracker Voyeur
!

Tracker:
Each night, you may attempt to track a player and learn who they targeted.
Success VisitedYou saw {Player} visit {Target_One} and {Target_Two}.

Success Saw NothingYou didn't see {Player} visit anyone.

FailureNo Result: You could not obtain a result on {Player}.


Voyeur:
Each night, you may attempt to watch a player learning what types of actions were performed on that player according to Natural Action Resolution/Normal Game.
Success VisitedYou saw someone perform {Action_Type_One} and {Action_Type_Two} on {Player}.

Success Saw NothingYou didn't see anyone perform anything on {Player}.

FailureNo Result: You could not obtain a result on {Player}.


Multitasking:
You may perform multiple actions in a single night. (For instance, you could track a player and also watch a player with your voyeur ability.)

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Spoiler: Town Doctor
Welcome, {Player}, to Mini Normal {X}: {Title}.
You are a
Town Doctor
!

Each night, you may attempt to protect a player from a single kill attempt.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Spoiler: Town N2 N3 N5 N7 N11 Bulletproof
Welcome, {Player}, to Mini Normal {X}: {Title}.
You are a
Town N2 N3 N5 N7 N11 Bulletproof
!

On prime-numbered nights up to and including night 11, you are protected from kills that target you.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Spoiler: Vanilla Townie
Welcome to Mini Normal {X}: {Title}.
You are a
Vanilla Townie
!

You possess no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

Spoiler: Mafia Multitasking Follower Voyeur
Welcome, {Player}, to Mini Normal {X}: {Title}.
You are a
Mafia Multitasking Follower Voyeur
!

Follower:
Each night, you may attempt to follow a player learning what type(s) of action(s) that player performed according to Natural Action Resolution/Normal Game.

Success VisitedYou saw {Player} perform {Action_Type_One} and {Action_Type_Two}.

Success Saw NothingYou didn't see {Player} perform anything.

FailureNo Result: You could not obtain a result on {Player}.


Voyeur:
Each night, you may attempt to watch a player learning what types of actions were performed on that player according to Natural Action Resolution/Normal Game.
Success VisitedYou saw someone perform {Action_Type_One} and {Action_Type_Two} on {Player}.

Success Saw NothingYou didn't see anyone perform anything on {Player}.

FailureNo Result: You could not obtain a result on {Player}.


Multitasking:
You may perform multiple actions in a single night (e.g.: follow a player and kill a player).

As a member of the mafia, you share their factional communication abilities and factional kill. More information will be sent in a separate pm.

You win when all threats to the mafia are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Spoiler: Mafia 1-Shot Strongman
Welcome, {Player}, to Mini Normal {X}: {Title}.
You are a
Mafia 1-Shot Strongman
!

Once per game while performing the factional kill, you may activate your strongman ability to ensure your kill bypasses protection and blocking roles.

As a member of the mafia, you share their factional communication abilities and factional kill. More information will be sent in a separate pm.

You win when all threats to the mafia are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Spoiler: Mafia Goon
Welcome, {Player}, to Mini Normal {X}: {Title}.
You are
Mafia Goon
!

You possess no special abilities.

As a member of the mafia, you share their factional communication abilities and factional kill. More information will be sent in a separate pm.

You win when all threats to the mafia are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Spoiler: Separate Mafia PM
{X}, {Y}, and {Z} are the mafia. Your private thread is located here. You may converse at any time.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:47 am

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Also, happy birthday mastina!
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:18 pm

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Much better. I'd call this setup incredibly swingy (it's a cop-doc setup so naturally things swing dramatically depending on night actions/lynches), but it's balanced and it's normal so I'm willing to give it the /pass.
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