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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:01 am

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In post 699, Oversoul wrote:
In post 697, Most Serene wrote:
In post 696, Oversoul wrote:Am I going to regret putting you in my townbloc kuribo


Not if you know how I play scum
wut

I'm saying you should know me well enough by now to know this is my town game


Moreover you should be familiar enough with Serene games to know this is our town game
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:03 am

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What gives you that impression about Serene games? I don’t think I’ve ever actually played a game with Serene.

I do think this is probably town you but I’m really
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:03 am

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In post 684, Oversoul wrote:Just so everyone is aware we should probably consolidate our suspicions. We have about a day left before the deadline strikes.
Somebody gets stranded no matter what.

I like the idea of consolidating suspicions, but it's not necessary to achieve a strand fyi.
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:06 am

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In post 692, Most Serene wrote:
In post 690, Oversoul wrote:I remember reading it. I think FF but I need to crtl+f to find it
It don't much matter to me who said it, I put more effort into it because I thought it had been you

Most of my scumlean on you was based on that, so we good now fam
In post 695, Most Serene wrote:It was espresso, my bad
So does that mean you're scumreading me? Or was it just a scumread because Oversoul said it?
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:12 am

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In post 703, EspressoPatronum wrote:So does that mean you're scumreading me? Or was it just a scumread because Oversoul said it?

It was a scumlean because I thought oversoul said it, especially after DGB and I felt like he was buddying us earlier.

Oversoul's expected to know better. You aren't.
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:14 am

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In post 701, Oversoul wrote:What gives you that impression about Serene games? I don’t think I’ve ever actually played a game with Serene.

I do think this is probably town you but I’m really
paranoid schizophrenic
nervous
I just figured the reputation for the clusterfuck that Serene games had become was well-known. *shrug*

you'll just have to be paranoid or nervous then, aint a hell of a lot i can do about it. I'm the same way anyway, I only trust the dead. And sometimes not even then.
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:32 am

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I like the icon v hectic thing happening, but am still down for icon to die first.
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:17 am

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I scumread them both, but I am fairly confident that they cannot
both
be scum. Busing is a horrible idea in this setup.
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:38 am

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Maybe I'm tripping but I thought I remembered someone saying that Iconeum and Hectic should shoot each other. This is a decent step to solving IMO. Those two flips would tell us a lot about the game state and I'm pretty sure we'd catch a mafia.
I would obviously prefer we just strand and shoot Iconeum and be done with it, but I don't think I'm going to be able to persuade people that the scum between them is just Iconeum, and I kinda think Hectic is getting shot regardless of what I think, so I'd settle for the compromise that Iconeum and Hectic cross-fire and a couple townies volunteer (but do not post in thread that you are volunteering) to shoot into those two to prevent barricade balking.
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:47 am

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Oddly enough, the above strategy means I should not be stranding Iconeum.

UNVOTE: Iconeum
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:57 am

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In post 708, Carl Tuckerson wrote:Maybe I'm tripping but I thought I remembered someone saying that Iconeum and Hectic should shoot each other. This is a decent step to solving IMO. Those two flips would tell us a lot about the game state and I'm pretty sure we'd catch a mafia.
I would obviously prefer we just strand and shoot Iconeum and be done with it, but I don't think I'm going to be able to persuade people that the scum between them is just Iconeum, and I kinda think Hectic is getting shot regardless of what I think, so I'd settle for the compromise that Iconeum and Hectic cross-fire and a couple townies volunteer (but do not post in thread that you are volunteering) to shoot into those two to prevent barricade balking.
If scum know we're planning on having a bunch of ppl shoot, they'll shoot wide + possibly kill 3 town. I'd rather stick to the earlier plan of stranding one and having a select number of town decide whether they should shoot.

Forcing scum to focus fire is in our best interest unless we bait them into shooting wide but actually barricade.
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:27 am

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Votecount 1.5


Iconeum (3): Formerfish, TiphaineDeath, Gandalf
Egduf (2): Menalque, EspressoPatronum
Hectic (3): Delta Klim, Oversoul, Most Serene
Menalque (2): Egduf, Hectic
Gandalf (1): Iconeum

Not voting (2) - Tet, Carl Tuckerson

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to strand.

NOTE: I will be away on a previously scheduled camping trip with no internet access starting the afternoon of Thu 8.1 Until sometime on Sun 8.4. My apologies for interference to the game.

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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:42 am

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In post 710, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 708, Carl Tuckerson wrote:Maybe I'm tripping but I thought I remembered someone saying that Iconeum and Hectic should shoot each other. This is a decent step to solving IMO. Those two flips would tell us a lot about the game state and I'm pretty sure we'd catch a mafia.
I would obviously prefer we just strand and shoot Iconeum and be done with it, but I don't think I'm going to be able to persuade people that the scum between them is just Iconeum, and I kinda think Hectic is getting shot regardless of what I think, so I'd settle for the compromise that Iconeum and Hectic cross-fire and a couple townies volunteer (but do not post in thread that you are volunteering) to shoot into those two to prevent barricade balking.
If scum know we're planning on having a bunch of ppl shoot, they'll shoot wide + possibly kill 3 town. I'd rather stick to the earlier plan of stranding one and having a select number of town decide whether they should shoot.

Forcing scum to focus fire is in our best interest unless we bait them into shooting wide but actually barricade.
I agree with your principles here but I don't think this plan contradicts them--we're just rigging the moves of two people who the town suspects and saying that
someone
should clean up the mess. Since we think there's at most one mafia between Iconeum and Hectic, that leaves us 9 townies, two of whom can clean up and seven of whom are doing something undeclared.
I wouldn't want to go further than this (Menalque's idea to rig something like 6-7 people's actions is too far IMO--we start to get exploitable at that point) but I think there would be significant value in resolving those two slots and it wouldn't commit too many actions.
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:51 am

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In post 705, Most Serene wrote:
In post 701, Oversoul wrote:What gives you that impression about Serene games? I don’t think I’ve ever actually played a game with Serene.

I do think this is probably town you but I’m really
paranoid schizophrenic
nervous
I just figured the reputation for the clusterfuck that Serene games had become was well-known. *shrug*

you'll just have to be paranoid or nervous then, aint a hell of a lot i can do about it. I'm the same way anyway, I only trust the dead. And sometimes not even then.
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:41 pm

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Things are stagnating and I'd rather not run out the clock. I'm getting strong town vibes from CT and Gandalf, so I'm happy going with them for now. @CT I don't think the crossfire strategy is better than stranding btw.

VOTE: Iconeum
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:44 pm

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I would prefer fewer deaths tonight to more, but I understand that this is likely out of my control so I will not force the issue.

VOTE: Iconeum L-2
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:14 pm

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Ok, kids in bed, dishes are done, bowl is packed, lets fucking do this.

Icon being stranded means its likely scum kill him right?
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:28 pm

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If he’s scum, definitely no
If he’s town, probably no
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:33 pm

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In post 717, Oversoul wrote:If he’s scum, definitely no
If he’s town, probably no
I think this is why im having a hard time getting into this game.

Over, is there more to this than the mechanics of it?
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:36 pm

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Well i guess if he is a mason he’s definitely dead

But basically the first night I think people should seriously consider not shooting. Masons should definitely protect
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:42 pm

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In post 716, Formerfish wrote:Ok, kids in bed, dishes are done, bowl is packed, lets fucking do this.

Icon being stranded means its likely scum kill him right?
Got to be the other way around, mafia won't shoot their own and I'd think mafia would think not to bother shooting someone that got enough townies to vote to strand them b/c one of the townies would do it.
I think it's likely
town
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:28 pm

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If any of you think that you can control my gun target this night ur wrong. I'm not barricading, and i'm most likely shooting Gandalf.

If ya'll wanna strand me go ahead, i'm dying either way tonight
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:29 pm

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VOTE: Egduf

blatant sheep to have a chance at using my gun tonight
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:31 pm

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Just to check I'm following this correctly, when we are talking about us volunteering to shoot here, what this means is (if we agree say 2 "volunteers")

I roll a random %. With all 10 of us alive, if i get 1-20% I am a volunteer, if not, them I'm not.

Then just change it going forwards depending on the number of town alive at the time?
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:35 pm

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That's essentially the strategy we appear to be going with, though I proposed "25% shoot stranded, 25% shoot scumread, 50% barricade" to keep both Goons from shooting for free.

Masons should always barricade; they're too valuable to risk being killed by a stray shot.
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