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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:13 am

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In post 170, Pine wrote:Hey guys

I’m about 90% sure Cyrus is also scum
Thinking this as well. Pine town now.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:14 am

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why did it quote 70?
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:14 am

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In post 171, skitter30 wrote:Fireball are you changing ur writing style as part of the hydra gimmick?

The way you're writing feels kinda unnatural
Yes I am. I am writing much more formally than I usually would.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:14 am

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In post 172, skitter30 wrote:
In post 169, Channel Fireball wrote:This one is in the normal queue archive, for example, for a towngame of Chennis; https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10976751

Again, what's being discussed is hardly relevant. The tell is much simpler.

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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:14 am

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Skitter you are town for your response about Elements.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:23 am

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I can fake that
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:29 am

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I don’t think you fake it as fast as you typed it
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:31 am

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In post 170, Pine wrote:Hey guys

I’m about 90% sure Cyrus is also scum
Care to elaborate?
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:33 am

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In post 177, Channel Fireball wrote:
In post 171, skitter30 wrote:Fireball are you changing ur writing style as part of the hydra gimmick?

The way you're writing feels kinda unnatural
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:35 am

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I think holding my tell has generated enough results in regards to reaction and won't produce anything new, so I might as well share it with the rest of the playerlist.

In the majority of games that chennis has played as town, his typing style is fairly loose. "this is how chennis would type most of his sentences". It is fairly congruent with his stream-of-consciousness style of posting, with no regards to grammar. Notice in particular that his sentences, more often than not, start with a lowercase letter.

On the contrary, in Gay Dance, all of his posts were written starting with an uppercase and fairly well written. My style of posting would be comparable to Chennis' Gay Dance game, for example. It's a subconscious tell when people try to get taken more seriously, such as people try to show a professional facade when applying for jobs. This is fairly telling when it comes to mafia, as it indicates that Chennis as town does not necessarily desire to be taken seriously, but very much does so when playing as scum, hence the clean posting style, and the incongruence between stating he does not care about this game, and vehemently arguing against my reason for voting him.

You may think it is completely absurd, but this is the kind of thing that people do on a subconscious level that gives them away textually. It is akin to someone smiling when they are lying in face-to-face mafia, for example. This is why it is quite a serious scumtell in my eyes.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:40 am

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Does this site say whether things were posted from mobile at all?
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:41 am

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Another subconscious tell would be assuming that our slot has a lyncher win-condition as a justification of us pushing there, instead of simply we are scum trying to score a mislynch. It's a subconsious tell that we are town, and that Chennis therefore subconsciously came up with an explanation that would make sense in his point of view. Those things are quite important.

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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:41 am

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:42 am

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In post 187, Acute Right Obtuse wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
btw i guess ill out this now; we KNOW that there's someone whose wincondition is actively against ours
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:43 am

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In post 188, Acute Right Obtuse wrote:
In post 187, Acute Right Obtuse wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
btw i guess ill out this now; we KNOW that there's someone whose wincondition is actively against ours
It's called town vs mafia
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:44 am

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In post 189, Elements wrote:
In post 188, Acute Right Obtuse wrote:
In post 187, Acute Right Obtuse wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
btw i guess ill out this now; we KNOW that there's someone whose wincondition is actively against ours
It's called town vs mafia
u know what i meant.

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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:45 am

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also ik you might think 2076 is more recent cuz it ended later but actually 2081 is more recent (i joined 2081 WAY AFTER i died in 2076): https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

the capslock thing is something i do more often as both alignments recently. in GS you'll see i didn't do it
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:48 am

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Yes, there are exceptions to the rule. I noticed it. Your initial reaction to our push kind of reaffirmed my position however.

Although, if there is someone with an alt-condition that goes against yours, I guess your reaction could make sense.

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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:50 am

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I have a question, however. Why would you assume in that case that we would be that player, instead of all the other players that voted you prior? Does that player holding that wincondition know your identity?

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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:53 am

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uh a real scumtell might be that as scum id push a general agenda in my first post about stuff that kinda goes without saying.

gameshow i pushed "lynch scum even if 8ball" and "we need to lynch" - conveniently gets me shallow TRs to work with and i can push my agenda in that mould of "duh that's townie"

2077 doesn't fit the mould

gay dance i pushed "let's not pair in a shitty way" and "lol we only need 3 LOCKTOWN PLAYERS LOLOL" - it didn't become immediately obvious that i was putting myself in that agenda and it took a long time so people thought it was natural, and i killed all the town before they realized

this was actually subconscious and yeah im getting more self-aware of my scumgame.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:54 am

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In post 193, Channel Fireball wrote:I have a question, however. Why would you assume in that case that we would be that player, instead of all the other players that voted you prior? Does that player holding that wincondition know your identity?

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id think probably?

now that you've started engaging in good faith i will take a look at the rest of my wagon - but as far as i can tell a lot of it was weird/jokey reasons


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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:55 am

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specifically i'd think the person is town because if they were scum they could just NK me to manipulate their condition into fulfilling and that's too boring/bad
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:55 am

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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:56 am

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btw the worst person on my wagon rn is gobble
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:57 am

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Please explain your wincondition
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