Mini Theme 2094 : Undertale Semi-Open: Game over!

[Something_Smart]

Spared players aren't removed from the game; in both pacifist and neutral they return to the game at the Core.

[Oversoul]

How has the scum’s job changed in a spare game?

[Oversoul]

Spared players aren't removed from the game; in both pacifist and neutral they return to the game at the Core.

They are removed for the time being though, that’s my point. After the first two spares it is much easier for scum to get spared

[popsofctown]

UNVOTE:

[*]You can remove your selection by healing or hurting the mod. The UNVOTE: tag will only work in the pacifist core. (I will be skimming the thread for reds and yellows.)

[Something_Smart]

I mean, scum's goal isn't to remove townies for the time being...

[chennisden]

rather than driving town to their deaths they have to drive themselves for the spare.

it's much harder to pretend you're arguing in good faith when you have to push yourself as the towniest player in the game.

in a LOT of setups scum can stop going for the agenda that they're the towniest player at some point. even fakegod's dance setup which is prolly the most townsided game i've seen in a while gives some room for that. this setup is townsided if we play this way because we don't give scum the room to do that, EVER.

[Oversoul]

HURT: pop

[chennisden]

im hurt.

[Something_Smart]

it's much harder to pretend you're arguing in good faith when you have to push yourself as the towniest player in the game.

Well, because pacifist has no flips, you can maybe get away with pushing your partner as the towniest player in the game.

But that can get screwed over by a mid-game switch to neutral.

[popsofctown]

Votecount 1.2

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Gamma Emerald -------(0)
chennisden ------------(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(1) volxen
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(3) Something_Smart, Elements, Dr Easy Bake
Gamma Emerald -------(0)
chennisden ------------(1) chennisden
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill:

:

volxen

Voting for a Spare:

: Something_Smart, Elements, chennisden, Dr Easy Bake

Not voting at all:

Gamma Emerald, Oversoul, DrDolittle, Chemist1422, Adorable, Emperor flippyNips.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to make a choice.

Deadline: (expired on 2019-08-16 10:00:00)

[Oversoul]

If scum get 2 spares, they win automatically

[chennisden]

btw we can't let mechanical talk supersede getting reads. look more for townreads tho

[chennisden]

they won't get two spares.

one of our spares will be the PR. the other should prolly be me.

scum has to fit their way through gamma/volxen and idk if ONE scum can do that let alone BOTH. and if either of them is scum uh i think it won't be too difficult to tell.

[Oversoul]

Fat chance

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Chennis

[Oversoul]

HURT: Chennis

[chennisden]

it's been 4 pages and i think i've been quite obviously town and i also think it's kinda obvious you're scum.

like, you're trying to steer the mechanics discussion in a way that benefits you and also benefits scum.

[chennisden]

you also managed to call town scum twice.

[Oversoul]

I just realized how many lurkers/inscrutable players we have in this game. I will not be sparing anyone and do not think we should spare. We need alignments.

[chennisden]

if we weren't sparing you'd be the first to go, oversoul.

[Oversoul]

That’s fine. Town has a chance to win at that point in neutral.

[chennisden]

I just realized how many lurkers/inscrutable players we have in this game. I will not be sparing anyone and do not think we should spare. We need alignments.

this is wrong

we're getting alignments a la the "party mechanic" in neutral

sparing is an easy way to protect the PR from scum (scum ALSO CAN'T COUNTERCLAIM W/O HUGE OPPORTUNITY LOSS)

we have enough people who can towntell quite well, etc.

[chennisden]

sparing first is much better.

[Oversoul]

If you kill people their alignments are flipped. I’m not even talking about Neutral.

[chennisden]

thank you, but we don't need to flip people's alignments as much as you think we do.