Magical Girls UPick - Heart of Light and Shadow (Full)

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OH WAIT YOU KNOW WHAT I WANNA CHANGE MY CHOICES NOW BRB

[Kagami]

I trust GIF to ensure that Fate is the best girl.

[popsofctown]

I have become totally fascinated about thinking of characters that do/don't fit these rules.
Questions:
Does "girl" imply youth, do the characters need to be children or at least teenagers?
Does the character need to be human before and after transformation?
Does the character need to be female before and after transformation?
Does the transformation need to be voluntary in the canon?
Does the transformation need to be temporary in the canon?
If the transformation is explained by sci-fi elements rather than magic is it disqualified (I feel like superheroes would be lame)?
Can the character be evil?

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Does the character need to be female before and after transformation?

I asked this and GIF said that it doesn't have to be before transformation.

[popsofctown]

So it can be a boy that becomes a girl sometimes?

[Kagami]

I mean, the strict definition would be fairly straightforward: Did the creator intend for this to be a "magical girl?"

Cardcaptor Sakura is sort of obviously a magical girl, but doesn't fit GiF's definition as she doesn't properly transform. Madoka girls are all also clearly magical girls, but also don't transform outside of their initial magical girlification.

Ranma (the only one who I can vaguely imagine as a boy magically transforming into a girl?) is clearly not a magical girl.

I imagine that GiF will be pretty lenient on that sort of thing, though, as there really aren't too many proper magical girls without having the entire cast of sailor moon.

[Sakura Hana]

Ranma (the only one who I can vaguely imagine as a boy magically transforming into a girl?) is clearly not a magical girl.

The main character from Kämpfer, probably.

[Bitmap]

I dont want a game full of Pretty Cure and Sailor Moon only please.

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So it can be a boy that becomes a girl sometimes?

I think final transformation has to be a girl.

[Sakura Hana]

But as far as i recall, he likes it when people like to challenge "Would this fit as a magical girl in your game" kinda thing when people make choices. This game's been run twice before already, and one of them had Sakura Kinomoto on it, so she clearly fits.

[popsofctown]

I mean, the strict definition would be fairly straightforward: Did the creator intend for this to be a "magical girl?"

Even if you prefer J.K. Rowling tweets over the concept of "The Author is Dead", the idea that a character only fits a trope if the author was aware of the trope when he wrote the character and specifically designed in an attempt to fit that trope is logically absurd. By that definition, Shakespeare didn't write a single "tragic hero", because he hadn't created the trope yet.

[popsofctown]

So it can be a boy that becomes a girl sometimes?

I think final transformation has to be a girl.

Ok.
My first pick is GuyInFreezer.

[Sakura Hana]

First Game Second Game

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I have become totally fascinated about thinking of characters that do/don't fit these rules.
Questions:
Does "girl" imply youth, do the characters need to be children or at least teenagers?
Does the character need to be human before and after transformation?
Does the character need to be female before and after transformation?
Does the transformation need to be voluntary in the canon?
Does the transformation need to be temporary in the canon?
If the transformation is explained by sci-fi elements rather than magic is it disqualified (I feel like superheroes would be lame)?
Can the character be evil?

I suggest looking at the OP. The first three are soft yes's in that I'd ask FG if you want permission to bend the rules there.

Nothing is said about temporary or voluntary transformations. Nothing is said about technology/science being disqualifying. Nothing is said about villains not being magical girl fodder. All of those are perfectly acceptable RAW, and if GiF wants to change that he should.

Teal Dear: Make your case, and if GiF thinks it'll be fun/interesting he'll probably say yes.

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Ok it's 2019 so I have to ask this question. What is a "girl" in the eyes of GIF?

[Tana and Ephraim]

replacing RC and Sakura Hana's ins

[Sakura Hana]

replacing RC and Sakura Hana's ins

/confirm

[popsofctown]

I have become totally fascinated about thinking of characters that do/don't fit these rules.
Questions:
Does "girl" imply youth, do the characters need to be children or at least teenagers?
Does the character need to be human before and after transformation?
Does the character need to be female before and after transformation?
Does the transformation need to be voluntary in the canon?
Does the transformation need to be temporary in the canon?
If the transformation is explained by sci-fi elements rather than magic is it disqualified (I feel like superheroes would be lame)?
Can the character be evil?

I suggest looking at the OP. The first three are soft yes's in that I'd ask FG if you want permission to bend the rules there.

Nothing is said about temporary or voluntary transformations. Nothing is said about technology/science being disqualifying. Nothing is said about villains not being magical girl fodder. All of those are perfectly acceptable RAW, and if GiF wants to change that he should.

Teal Dear: Make your case, and if GiF thinks it'll be fun/interesting he'll probably say yes.

I don't know what RAW stands for. The first three seem unclear based on the OP. The second two conflict with the setup design a bit. The evil prohibition was possibly implied by the Nyaruko example. And the scifi one I have no basis for whatsoever, I am tired of Marvel movies and am shamelessly trying to convince GiF to ban them, I guess by Socratic questioning.

[popsofctown]

Oh no there was a superhero in one of the games.
nuuuuuuuuuu
Looks like all the picks are young and all the picks stay human.

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RAW = Rules as written.

Samus is pretty age ambiguous, afair, and explicitly goes against the scifi counterexample.

Most marvel characters would be a pretty tough sell, though. IG maybe Pepper?

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Ok it's 2019 so I have to ask this question. What is a "girl" in the eyes of GIF?

Not the red power ranger.

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I like asking stupid questions.

[popsofctown]

Samus's dialogue is written pretty maturely in Metroid Fusion and implies she's a bit older in a few ways. That's not the most widely played title but it's still cannon. Freudian slip misspelling that I should not correct.

Did one of the past games include a Samus?

[popsofctown]

I kind of want my magical girls to be young just out of preference but if I find an older one that's just perfect I might not stick to that.

[RadiantCowbells]

I kind of want my magical girls to be young just out of preference

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