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[Something_Smart]

I don't think scum would quickly heal town chennis on day 1 like that.

Why not?

[Something_Smart]

Did SS town read on chennis all of a sudden change on day 3?

No it hasn't, I still have Elements town because of chennis.

But like I said, right now discussion is being dominated by a few people at least one of whom has a very incorrect grasp on the gamestate. So I don't want to rush the day because we need to end this day with more information than we ended the previous two with.

And poking and prodding at people by making a weird heal like DEB is a good way to get people to start talking.

[Something_Smart]

V/LA until Monday

I'll be around today, just wanted to make sure I didn't forget to declare it.

[Emperor flippyNips]

Do we need to kill someone today?

[Dr Easy Bake]

Not certain.

[Elements]

Oversoul, why is Chennis scum again?

[Adorable]

I don't think scum would quickly heal town chennis on day 1 like that.

Why not?

Scum quickly healing town chennis on day 1 looks weird and it would be like as if scum are giving up and scum would most likely keep the discussion going.

[volxen]

I am by no means confident that DEB is town. I should hardly see why I'd have to be to make a vote that is by no means getting near a spare anytime soon.

I think a spare wagon on a quieter player like him could be very illuminating in a number of ways, primarily to shift the focus off of the louder players who have been dominating discussion.

Did SS town read on chennis all of a sudden change on day 3?

No it hasn't, I still have Elements town because of chennis.

But like I said, right now discussion is being dominated by a few people at least one of whom has a very incorrect grasp on the gamestate. So I don't want to rush the day because we need to end this day with more information than we ended the previous two with.

And poking and prodding at people by making a weird heal like DEB is a good way to get people to start talking.

I mean, why heal DEB if you aren't townreading him? Especially when two people that you have listed as strong townreads (Elements and Adorable) are still in the game? And beyond that... what's the point in healing DEB if he is unlikely to ever be spared? You are acting as though you healing him is somehow helping to advance the gamestate, and I don't see how that's the case. If you are wanting to pursue the Pacifist route to victory, then you should be pushing for a realistic spare.

And if you are wanting to engage the quieter slots, then why not directly ask them questions? That's far more effective than just dropping a random heal vote on DEB.

[volxen]

@Oversoul... you still haven't answered my question:

Then Heal Chennis

I think town list is Volxen, Chennis at the top followed by DDL and Ele

Why did you call me town this early on on day one? At the time I had really only made one post with serious content (175). Chennisden townread me (179 over that one post, but he has history with me whereas you do not. Usually people unfamiliar with me have a hard time reading me, especially during the early stages of the game, as I am rarely “obvious town” on day one. And I had also just put your “secret” scumread (Chennisden) up to L-2 as well (176) – so what was it in particular that made you think that I am town at that stage of the game?

I decline to answer.

I asked you a legitimate question that would help me (and probably others) to sort your alignment and you refuse to answer. Why? You’ve suggested that you are going to be coming out at the beginning of day three with confident reads (i.e., 431). If you are town then the only reason I can think of with respect to why you wouldn't want to reveal/explain your reads (particularly your townreads) right now is that doing so might help scum to make a more informed decision regarding who they nightkill. But if that is your stance, then why have you been questioning other people on their townreads while being mostly aloof on your own townreads (except for calling Nips townie in 488)? If the concern is that revealing your townreads will give scum more insight into who is "obvious town" and that said information might impact the nightkill decision, then if anything it would make more sense for you to encourage everyone to wait until day three before divulging their townreads, no? Except that isn't what you have been doing. You want everyone else to talk about their townreads, while simultaneously acting as though you can't afford to do so yourself because scum is going to use your readslist to help them decide who to nightkill. And on top of that from the discussions that have already taken place today I think that it's fairly clear who is being widely townread and who isn't, so this whole stance of "you guys talk about your townreads and I will reveal mine on day three" that you are taking doesn't really make any sense at all.

You gave me a very questionable townread at the beginning of day one and I called you out on it. Especially considering that you called out DDL over doing the same thing towards your own slot (341), I expected you to give me a proper response, not dodge the issue.

[Oversoul]

I will answer tonight.

[Oversoul]

Do we need to kill someone today?

Not certain.

I could be persuaded to Spare put but I’m pretty certain SS isscum.

[Emperor flippyNips]

What makes you so sure again?

[popsofctown]

Votecount 3.0

Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(1) Oversoul
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(1) Something_Smart
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0) -
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill (1):

:

Oversoul

Voting for a Spare (1):

: Something_Smart,

Not voting at all(4):

, Emperor flippyNips, volxen, Dr Easy Bake, Elements, Adorable, Chemist1422

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to make a choice.

The mod is going to start a genocide run tonight.
A mafia setup that has to be replayed to try all its contents, mirrored by a video game that has to be replayed to try all its contents.
It fills you with determination.

Deadline: (expired on 2019-08-25 06:00:00)

[Elements]

I still think we should go for the pacifist route. I think Chennis is town so we can still win via said route. I agree that SS is scum, that just means we don't spare them. This route should only really be aborted if there are no consensus town reads left to spare.

[Emperor flippyNips]

Yeah that works for me. Why do you think chenn is town tho?

[Emperor flippyNips]

Also gotta re-read how we win its a little confusing

[Elements]

Why do you think chenn is town tho?

Train of thought style of posting. Looking for the route that will be hardest for scum ie being the strongest town reads. Explaining why different scenarios are better or worse than others. Retrospectively updating his views as they changed. His very high activity constantly pushing the game forwards.

[Elements]

Also gotta re-read how we win its a little confusing

Spare 4 town = win
Lynch all scum = win

[Emperor flippyNips]

Cooooliiiooooool

[Emperor flippyNips]

Cooooliiioooooo

[Emperor flippyNips]

@element—Did a quick skim of their iso. I like them & agree with you i think chenn is town.

[Emperor flippyNips]

So we spare element today y’alls?

[Emperor flippyNips]

HEAL: elements

[popsofctown]

Nice

[popsofctown]

Ice