Newbie 1951 (Day 4)

[NotMySpamAccount]

[quote="In post 192, Menalque"]gonna have to say that weakens my read on you a lil bit tbh NMSA, I thought we were mind melding

I think the newbie tell is bullshit site meta[

/quote]
Then you're just wrong.

[Sushi Martyr]

The reaction test was semi-spicy but I don't know how I feel about it yet.

@ NMSA: What's your actual read on Farkran at this point?

[Menalque]

the numbers are sketchy and the sample size is not nearly big enough

[emps]

Quick, farkran adjust ur read on nmsa based off of his read on you

[Menalque]

whats up with nmsa saying skitter is always town and menalque saying that he'll end up tring skitter

are they like really obivious as scum or do they always deepwolf/powerplay or smth

Skitter has a bit of a reputation. She rolls VT more than it is humanly possible. I'll assume she's town until I have an excellent reason not to.

that's a weird reason to TR skitt before she's posted

[emps]

menalque are you blind you did the same thing

[Menalque]

no, I didn't

[emps]

No, but I always end up TRing skitt so I'm just pre-emptively putting her where she's gonna end up

[emps]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[Menalque]

I said that skitt would end up convincing me she's town regardless of whether she is or not

NMSA is saying she rolls VT >% than average which is prob not true long run and a weird reason to pre-emptively TR someone

[Menalque]

the outcome is the same but the thought process leading us there is v markedly different

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nullread onfark

Newbie greeting tell has a good enough sample size, as well as a reasonable explanation. There's a reason most of the site accepts it as valid.

Menalque'a reaction is pretty scummy.

Ask anyone about skitter, they'll back me up. Or just read her gtkas, I think she talks about it in there.

[Sushi Martyr]

Maybe the greeting tell was valid at one point, before someone made a thread in Mafia Discussion about it and people actually started using it in games. Now, if anything, I think it might be a very slight town tell. Of course, if it starts getting used in

that

way in games, soon scum will probably start doing it again and it'll flip back. So I'm just going to ignore it for now.

pedit: Since both of those are pretty bad reasons to TR Skitter, who only posted once to say she'd be posting later, I pretty much assumed neither was serious at this point.

[Sushi Martyr]

Also, is it scummy to ask what your read on me is?

[Sushi Martyr]

Ah, screw it.

@ NMSA: What's your read on me?

[Menalque]

I'm deadly serious

VOTE: NMSA

[Sushi Martyr]

No, wait, I came up with a better question.

Menalque'a reaction is pretty scummy.

What about his reaction seemed scummy to you?

[Sushi Martyr]

Nah, not against the rules. Also, if there was a real hammer against town page 6, person would be lynched 90% of the time D2. Not such a great deal for mafia.

Why is Notspam town?

Are you saying anyone hammering town in d1 is going to be lynched d2? How optimistic of you. I like your style though, you really look like town when questioning like that. It's your actions that i am doubting.

@ Farkran: Forgive me if I'm being dense, but are you being sarcastic here?

[Menalque]

Ask anyone about skitter, they'll back me up. Or

just read her gtkas, I think she talks about it in there

.

idk if we should talk about this as it's from the speakeasy and I think it's kinda scummy to bring that up knowing that

[Selynee]

I'd like to ask Selynee what they were trying to do with their fake hammer.

Get an answer from them that would help deciding town or mafia. Didn't go so well.

NMSA's reaction test was interesting (because I didn't know it was a reaction test till they mentioned it) and given that they weren't under any pressure for the read- most probably real.

[Sushi Martyr]

I'd like to ask Selynee what they were trying to do with their fake hammer.

Get an answer from them that would help deciding town or mafia. Didn't go so well.

NMSA's reaction test was interesting (because I didn't know it was a reaction test till they mentioned it) and given that they weren't under any pressure for the read- most probably real.

Interesting take. How do you think scum would have gone about faking a reaction test differently?

[Selynee]

I guess more obvious and a more well, dramatic result given that they could talk with their partner.

[teacher]

Hammer testing tends town or partner. Why does it make you scumread them?

And emps, I always reread rvs. Some of the more useful associations are there, before scum get the feel of the room and can play into/against it as needed.

That didn't look hammer testing to me. Claiming (or speaking at all) after being lynched is against the rules if i am not mistaken. That looked more like genuine rushy bandwagon.

How do you define hammertesting?

It can’t be a bandwagon because they were already there. So answer the question: why does a second, and purportedly hammer (but not) - vote strike you as scummy?

Also, why is bandwaggoning scummy?

[teacher]

Ask anyone about skitter, they'll back me up. Or

just read her gtkas, I think she talks about it in there

.

idk if we should talk about this as it's from the speakeasy and I think it's kinda scummy to bring that up knowing that

That is an incredibly bizarrely reachy take. Speaking about parts of the site is scummy how?

[Menalque]

Ask anyone about skitter, they'll back me up. Or

just read her gtkas, I think she talks about it in there

.

idk if we should talk about this as it's from the speakeasy and I think it's kinda scummy to bring that up knowing that

That is an incredibly bizarrely reachy take. Speaking about parts of the site is scummy how?

He's bringing it up in support of something he's saying, but multiple people here won't have access I'm p sure, and I thought the rule was that we're not meant to talk about anything in speakeasy outside of it? So it's a way to say "hey, there's evidence for my claim" without it being verifiable/without it being something we should really be discussing, if my understanding of rules about everything in speakeasy is correct