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[Emperor flippyNips]

Don’t get me wrong i agree if we’ve reached a point to where nothing is left to happen besides the kill then we may as well make it as long as we’re pretty close to deadline already. But i also think there’s could always be something to talk about even if i dont know what that thing is at that moment, if that makes sense.

[Datisi]

We should also run close to deadline so scum has more time to interact with each other. That could help for later if tchill isn’t actually scum. It could also help to find his partner if he is.

Strong disagree here. Making people wait until the last possible moment to end the day is just gonna create apathy and stall the game

So you don’t think its a good idea to extend the time scum has to interact in front of us (or not interact at all) to help give us more clues to who they are?

If this ain't one hell of a leading question...

I don't think it's a good idea to forcibly try to make the days as long as possible. Then people won't bother posting as much at the start since there's still a lot of time left, which will lead to rushed lynches once we're close to the deadline.

I agree that longer days would be good if everyone would bother posting sensible amount of relevant content, but I simply don't think that would be the case.

[Emperor flippyNips]

I don't think it's a good idea to forcibly try to make the days as long as possible. Then people won't bother posting as much at the start since there's still a lot of time left, which will lead to rushed lynches once we're close to the deadline.

Yeah this isn’t what I’m shooting for to be clear. I’m just saying i don't want to rush into a kill basically. & if there is still things that can be talked about then we should. I want to force more

scum

interactions, not interactions in general

I agree that longer days would be good if everyone would bother posting sensible amount of relevant content, but I simply don't think that would be the case.

I think the activity can change, but call me hopeful. We just need every one to check in then interactions will start to happen more. A couple people just need to do some catch up post and questions will just naturally arise

[Datisi]

I want to force more

scum

interactions, not interactions in general

How would you know which is which during the day?

[Emperor flippyNips]

I’m going off of who i think is scum i guess. So if you’re tr my scum reads it may look to you like I’m forcing town interactions & making things stale

[Klick]

I’m not buying the billy thing. He’s got a D1 pass from me. Rn it feels like Tchill is trying to take attention away from himself & nit pick on a newbie

I wanted to wait a bit, but yeah I'm getting the same vibes from my own interaction with Tchill. A lot of what he gave me was surface-level in a way that felt disingenuous.

VOTE: Tchill13

[Emperor flippyNips]

Spoiler:

[Tchill13]

If tchill flips green then billy could be scum. I don’t think the two can ever be scum together. The level of distancing without daychat seems impossible for the two to achieve.

feel like ive played with you b4. im capable of a lot as scum imo as far as interactions with other scummates goes.

[Tchill13]

Well. This is where i am

Waffle Block
Billy & I

Town
Icon for now.

Null
Everyone besides icon

As of rn i’m Good if we push Tchilly or Luca

I’ve been waiting since D1 for this Tchill wagon to take off

HURT: Tchilly

I’m not buying the billy thing. He’s got a D1 pass from me. Rn it feels like Tchill is trying to take attention away from himself & nit pick on a newbie

I’m still here for a Tchill kill

you've made one informational post about why im scum, which came after you pushed me for no reason, but im scum because im ignoring you after i explained why the "easy mislynch" seems like he's being overly ignorant?

makes sense.

[Tchill13]

I’m not buying the billy thing. He’s got a D1 pass from me. Rn it feels like Tchill is trying to take attention away from himself & nit pick on a newbie

VOTE: Tchill

He knows why

Seriously, what's up with this?

It went from RVS—> I’m getting scum vibes—> hes actively ignoring me & my push on him to make sure the attention goes to someone easily mislynchable

Like i understand I could be wrong & i understand that it is D1 & page 7 but i got pretty strong feelings about this. & in the case that Tchill flips green then we can go billy tomorrow.

didnt even have time to respond after the info as to why im scum.

your white knighting billy atm and then pushing for his lynch tomorrow if i flip green today.

VOTE: emperor flippynips

[Tchill13]

am i scum because i ignored a push that had no mmeaning in RVS?

@flippynips

[Tchill13]

billy has 2 "passes", one from kicks and one from flippynips, because he comes off as a newbie.

I'm scum because i'm alarmed how much he comes off as a newbie because im aware that sometimes leads to early TR's, as it has here.

I do not KNOW billy is scum. I'm simply aware that it seems like he's pushing the newbie card a liiiiitle too much for my liking.

[Tchill13]

We should also run close to deadline so scum has more time to interact with each other. That could help for later if tchill isn’t actually scum. It could also help to find his partner if he is.

Strong disagree here. Making people wait until the last possible moment to end the day is just gonna create apathy and stall the game

you're not gonna get a lot of info of a lynch is already agreed upon and you just wait out the day phases.

Flippy looks fake af here. Now he looks like he's trying to show "why" he's town.

pushing for a long d1, white knighting the newish player, looking busy by pushing me with no real reason "even though he claimed he had one" which i've debunked.

Flippy could still be town with bad instincts in this particular situation, but I need answers from flippy atm. Top priority.

[Emperor flippyNips]

am i scum because i ignored a push that had no mmeaning in RVS?

@flippynips

I said what my thought process was with my you. Up until it seemed like you were trying to change focus it was the vibe i was getting from you.

[Emperor flippyNips]

If tchill flips green then billy could be scum. I don’t think the two can ever be scum together. The level of distancing without daychat seems impossible for the two to achieve.

feel like ive played with you b4. im capable of a lot as scum imo as far as interactions with other scummates goes.

We’ve played once before. You were scum in it, i don't remember the name of the game not gonna search for it either. I know FL was in it.

[Emperor flippyNips]

& i was saying that we wouldn’t be getting these responses from billy in that scenario

[Tchill13]

VOTE: Tchill

He knows why

Did you explain it to him in PT? Is that how he knows?

In making the claim that Billy could be scum, you would need a plausible explanation as to why he would make this post as scum The main reason I townread him is because I believe this post comes from town far more often than it comes from scum.

Can you explain what you think his scum motivation is there, Tchill?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
This game shows precedent for Billy acting this way as town. He's already discussed the fact that he was scumread for this before. What's different in his behavior here that makes you think it's an act?

And yeah, as I said before, I townread him because he didn't seem to be aware that scum don't have daytalk in this game. In order to think he's scum, you'd need to think he purposefully faked that. And that doesn't seem to be in line with his personality imo.

I’m not buying the billy thing. He’s got a D1 pass from me. Rn it feels like Tchill is trying to take attention away from himself & nit pick on a newbie

I wanted to wait a bit, but yeah I'm getting the same vibes from my own interaction with Tchill. A lot of what he gave me was surface-level in a way that felt disingenuous.

VOTE: Tchill13

you asked me to explain an RVS posts which is almost impossible to do.

I told you im not one to use players past games to clear them, mainly because they're easily manipulable.

I haven't been pushed with reason yet, other than flippy which i just spoke upon, so there's no reason to be worried about attention.

i did give you surface lvl content because nothing regarding billy has been enough to "nail" him as scum. We're not even at pg 10 yet.

[Tchill13]

am i scum because i ignored a push that had no mmeaning in RVS?

@flippynips

I said what my thought process was with my you. Up until it seemed like you were trying to change focus it was the vibe i was getting from you.

why would i want to change focus if there wasnt a threatening wagon on me and there were no real reason for the votes.

Am i paranoid scum early d1 because of 2-3 rvs votes? How reasonable is that claim?

[Emperor flippyNips]

billy has 2 "passes", one from kicks and one from flippynips, because he comes off as a newbie.

I'm scum because i'm alarmed how much he comes off as a newbie because im aware that sometimes leads to early TR's, as it has here.

I do not KNOW billy is scum. I'm simply aware that it seems like he's pushing the newbie card a liiiiitle too much for my liking.

Billy doesn’t come off like that to me i can see how someone would think that. He’s not pushing it as hard as i think you’re implying. & its not like its been used as a cop out in my opinion.

& i never said i think hes town cos i was getting weird vibes from him too. But i get worse from you so he's got a

D1

. Unless you know something changes in 9 days

[Tchill13]

he's not a town lean for you but billy has a d1 pass? interesting.

[Tchill13]

We should also run close to deadline so scum has more time to interact with each other. That could help for later if tchill isn’t actually scum. It could also help to find his partner if he is.

Strong disagree here. Making people wait until the last possible moment to end the day is just gonna create apathy and stall the game

So you don’t think its a good idea to extend the time scum has to interact in front of us (or not interact at all) to help give us more clues to who they are?

the intent of this post is to show himself as town and increminate datisisi if she answeres incorrectly.

loaded questions aren't exactly a town agenda. Town should be asking questions that are open minded.

scum on the other t=hand need to implicate other players so loaded questions help push that along.

[Emperor flippyNips]

Overall he’s null, I’m pretty sure he’ll be easier to read a little later. You’re best sorted out now. So yeah billy isn’t who i want to push right now

[Emperor flippyNips]

We should also run close to deadline so scum has more time to interact with each other. That could help for later if tchill isn’t actually scum. It could also help to find his partner if he is.

Strong disagree here. Making people wait until the last possible moment to end the day is just gonna create apathy and stall the game

So you don’t think its a good idea to extend the time scum has to interact in front of us (or not interact at all) to help give us more clues to who they are?

the intent of this post is to show himself as town and increminate datisisi if she answeres incorrectly.

loaded questions aren't exactly a town agenda. Town should be asking questions that are open minded.

scum on the other t=hand need to implicate other players so loaded questions help push that along.

Oh god. Is this the post that Tchill makes & turns the tables on me gets me mislynched & moves on to billy?? Cos god that’s a good post.

[Tchill13]

Overall he’s null, I’m pretty sure he’ll be easier to read a little later. You’re best sorted out now. So yeah billy isn’t who i want to push right now

ok, so you finally provided info for why im scum then said im ignoring attention and projecting it on billy before i had a chance to respond to your sole reason for pushing me.

Should i have been alarmed enough by 2 rvs votes to acknowledge your rvs push of me?

Should i have read billy has town for his newbie vibes or am i scum for disagreeing on you on billy?

[Tchill13]

flippy you need to chill and stop projecting me as scum on a biased pov.

im fine with having attention on me so early because 9 times out of 10 theres no reason for it...Because it's too early.

so now the move is to prop me up as great scum to get me lynched early? you could just drop the push after i pointed out the flaws.

don't pick your hill to die on this early.