Newbie 1951 (Day 4)

[emps]

also, what teacher did to "defend" skitter is completely fair and i wouldve done it if i saw the "hiding behind vla" thing (i didnt until recently cuz i was on mobile earlier)

being vla isnt scummy, and

i think teachers reaction is actually townie.

(emphasis mine)

Really? I don't think his reaction was scummy, but I don't think it was townie either. This whole argument about Skitter being on V/LA and everyone's possible reads of her

despite her only having made one post

just feels like NAI semantic squabbling to me.

i feel like teachers emotion behind the posts is genuine and idk if hes good at faking that as scum so i might do a quick read of his scum meta

[emps]

Why do you think I'm targeting you? What do you think of Menalque vote?

With no investigations available so far, and not knowing any player from previous games, i'd say both votes are for the sake of information fishing. It's ok, but i'd rather hear some reasoning first. I am personally voting you for picking me, i could have voted Menalque for randomly voting a different player, but you have chosen me.

I see that random lynching is the common rule here. Care to give any reason why targeting me, Selynee?

VOTE: Selynee

hi hello welcome to the probably 20 ish posts case of fark

enter :

backwards logic

"hey so i see everyone seems to be random voting.

why are you random

voting me?"

"i see you are trying to get imformation about my alignment, which is town motivated. now let me OMGUS you real quick."

[teacher]

also, what teacher did to "defend" skitter is completely fair and i wouldve done it if i saw the "hiding behind vla" thing (i didnt until recently cuz i was on mobile earlier)

being vla isnt scummy, and

i think teachers reaction is actually townie.

(emphasis mine)

Really? I don't think his reaction was scummy, but I don't think it was townie either. This whole argument about Skitter being on V/LA and everyone's possible reads of her

despite her only having made one post

just feels like NAI semantic squabbling to me.

i feel like teachers emotion behind the posts is genuine and idk if hes good at faking that as scum so i might do a quick read of his scum meta

Gl - only normal 2016 on site, quite a long time ago. But for the benefit of fark on the meta note, you might remember this

Teacher: Weak scum lean. Looking through it seems a lot of his posts are general strategy advice that are intended to appear as furthering the game without actually. I feel like strategy would be very NAI in a newbie game when there's less meta knowledge, so the focus on it seems like a distraction. There does seem to be some talk of players he suspects with some reasoning, so that's why it's only a weak lean.

Admittedly this was scum, but an accurate reflection of my general early game approach.

[teacher]

(The attempted quote was scum; I was JK)

[emps]

Anything goes, as long as it makes sense and we can get something out of it. Menalque said skitt is confirmed scum. I'd like to verify.

what is this

why

what role gets a n0 guilty

[emps]

Menalque looking more and more like a troll.

I'd still like to hear from the silent people though, i guess i'll wait until they get back or something else pops up.

this feels like stalling, theres no reason you cant play the game without all 9 people present. you should be focused on generating interactions and trying to poke information out of people as town.

[emps]

Now i look like a good girl from an anime i like. Also hello to all the newly arrived.

My readings so far:

Selynee - town 70% very proactive
Menalque - town 50% mafia 50% trollish
teacher - mafia 60% too serious to be town PR
notmyspam - town 70% plays like expert town
sushi - town 50% mafia 50% trollish
emps - town 65% aggressive play

Other two have yet to speak, 80% at least one mafia hiding in there

UNVOTE:

VOTE: teacher

why is being serious scummy? what changed between theese posts that turned Selynee & I into SRs? why on earth is nmsa 70% town rn? what part of his play felt "expert" to you?

[emps]

Discussing jumping questions for the board. All slots kindly answer.

1. What is your experience at Mafia
2. How do you play as town
3. How do you play as scum
4. What do you think gives away a player as scum or tow
5. Time zone/utc/typical posting hours

not that hard

also rqs bad i kinda used it in my scum game to find blue roles lol (i overanalyzed the shit out of them and missed the simplest fucking jk crumb)

1. Played forum mafia elsewhere a long time ago, died n1 majority of the times because i talk too much
2. i talk too much
3. i talk too much
4. just posted about it a few seconds ago
5. CEST, mostly available all day

you cant find town or scum based off of activity or how proactive they are. there are things we call "lurky/lynchbaity town" and "deepwolves/powerscummers"

[emps]

uh how is that a good enough arguement to say "fine you win"??? "oh i dont want people to know my alignment due to pressuring me which is like an anti-town thing so like yeah"

"hmmmm fine you win"

pedit : hey you didnt see me on the playerlist? wow rude

Except that i gave more information than almost everyone else here lol

Sely did her job, probly did it good, still hasn't unvoted me though. I stand by teacher being the most suspicious atm.

how did u give more information? plus at this point it was mostly people scumreading you or something similar, and that isnt good information esp if ur town

[Farkran]

@Farkran: Quick clarification thing, when you say someone's moving down in your suspects list, does that mean you find them more or less suspicious than you did before?

More suspicious than before. My readings always go from top (most town-like) to bottom (most scum-like), therefore when someone's moving down, it's scummier than before.

i never stated i townread teacher.

and i think teachers reaction is actually townie.

Uh... ok?

About Selynee's fakehammer, though: as i said, sushi didn't notice it, i almost didn't notice it. Was it so obvious to you? It wasn't to other people. Why would you call it bullshit?

Also, to make it even more clear: i have absolutely no read on skitter at the moment.

[emps]

you gave more information than anyone else, how exactly? by saying "i dont wanna give out info stop voting me reeeee time to blatantly omgus"

Lot of ppl just greeting others or talking about past games, so far my only useless post was first one, everything else was analysis. I like to get things started.

ur "analysis" is pretty bad. yiu dont need to analyze

random

votes

Actually you do. And i accomplished my mission by getting everyone to talk profusely and provide analyzeable arguments. Ofc my analysis would be poor day 1, it will become more valuable later.

sorry to break it to you, but uh... you dont analyze rvs well, during rvs.

pedit : wow nice job misrepping me there

[emps]

Sushi didnt notice it, nor did you for a bit, however, ive never seen an accidental fakehammer. you dont just forget who ur voting like that. its purposeful almost all of the time.

[emps]

i stated his reaction was townie, not that i townread him overall. most people dont have all their posts be townie or scummy, most have both types.

[Farkran]

Menalque looking more and more like a troll.

I'd still like to hear from the silent people though, i guess i'll wait until they get back or something else pops up.

this feels like stalling, theres no reason you cant play the game without all 9 people present.

you should be focused on generating interactions and trying to poke information out of people as town.

You might have noticed that it's exactly what i have been doing, and that should also answer all your other recently asked questions.

Who's genuinely scumreading me though?

[teacher]

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i never stated i townread teacher.

and i think teachers reaction is actually townie.

Uh... ok?

One came before the other (why it’s helpful to include the whole post link thing in quotes). Also reaction (the quoted word) being Townie =/ read being Townie, though if I had to guess emps has a weak TL on me - mentally he thinks I’m likely town but is paranoid of deepwolfing.

[emps]

Menalque looking more and more like a troll.

I'd still like to hear from the silent people though, i guess i'll wait until they get back or something else pops up.

this feels like stalling, theres no reason you cant play the game without all 9 people present.

you should be focused on generating interactions and trying to poke information out of people as town.

You might have noticed that it's exactly what i have been doing, and that should also answer all your other recently asked questions.

Who's genuinely scumreading me though?

yeah and plenty of it is blatantly misrepping me and taking things out of context. that isnt helpful. ur supposed to apply pressure or reaction test, or simply discuss ur scumreads.

[emps]

paranoid of deepwolfing.

yeah u powerscummer in newb queue smh

[emps]

ignore the fact i tried powerscumming before

[teacher]

I enjoy the people here and introducing the ire regardless ligament. Also semi-open is my preferred format, by far to close, because I’m semi mechanical.

[emps]

also why should you be careful abt obvious jokes if they are, idk, obvious?

It's not the joke that matters, it's people's reactions about it and what they spark later

what? normally people go along with the joke and all that. why do you think its a really big issue that menalque was joking in rvs? plenty of others were, and this feels like an excuse to SR mena

[teacher]

ire regardless ligament.

Site regardless alignment. Ebwop.

[Farkran]

I guess our game experiences have been very different.

Who's genuinely scumreading me though?

This was a serious question though.

[emps]

eh im ok at mech stuff

[emps]

I guess our game experiences have been very different.

Who's genuinely scumreading me though?

This was a serious question though.

dont you mean who was? i was referring to people scumreading you as in in the past.

[Farkran]

Who's scumreading me right now?