Mini Normal 2095 - Game Over!

[Iconeum]

wow you can come up with 8/46 posts

and how many did you quote? 2? 3?/48

[Iconeum]

Ali, I have great respect for you as a player so if you think I (and the rest of the wagon) think we are wrong, disprove it please

[Alisae]

Honestly, I'm not feeling too well about Icon right now. He started pushing me, and once seeing that I really had no idea what I'm doing, decided to drop it, since he could probably easily manipulate me into following him. But then realized others still want me to hang, so he had no choice but to join in.

show me this development arc you're talkin about here

[Alisae]

wow you can come up with 8/46 posts

and how many did you quote? 2? 3?/48

hold on there dragonite i don't think i've even touched on what's so garsh darn bad about him

[Iconeum]

Ali you've read the game yes?

Datisi wa being silent, I called her out to post something, she posted a (not so great) readslist and is now being pushed for the list and for her reactions to it. You call it a bad wagon, but have failed to point what is so awfull about it.

[Alisae]

she posted a (not so great) readslist

ok this is where we differ
I think the readlist is fine

[Datisi]

Spoiler: first push

I think scums talking about how waffles are better than pancakes

what the fuck is wrong with you

Hmm, I read through Datisi ISO and I can see where you are coming from.

Yo Datisi I know ur lurking around here somewhere

Come and do stuff, like put your vote where it's usefull so I can get a read on you

VOTE: Datisi

Spoiler: push after i tried to explain my reads

Why pressure Billy (my solid townread) and Nippleflips (not a bad choice, but your motivation was lacking), and NOT the slot you think was 'faking' it or who's post are 'devoid of life'?

Datisi you are capable of much better reads then that when ur town

Town!you doesn't just read those posts and thinks 'hey, he's using excuses to post less, this means he is position himself as town leader!'

I've marked in red the parts that are pinging me. It simply seems as if he's trying to position himself in a "town-leadrer, voice of reason" position and to appear much more busy/credible than he is. Also note that these posts came after I nulled Luca.

There are multiple instances (you even marked them red) where he says he is busy and his reads are a work in progress (which they should be?)
From this you make a story that says 'he's positioning himself as town leader' that doesn't make sense

You also said you think his posts are devoid of life, which is ok to say but I disagree. You change your story to 'his posting seems fake' which is not a lesser degree of 'devoid of life', but something else entirely. You kinda had to change, because you know you can't sell his posts as empty.

VOTE: Datisi

Spoiler: giving up on the push

Luca

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Their posts seem... fake? I can't explain it well, but I just feel their posts are so devoid of life, like they're cold and calculated.

It could be just their playstyle, but it's giving me bad vibes.

Of course they should be a work in progress. But the way he keeps pointing it out.

Also I called them "fake" efore I called them "devoid of life".

Hmm indeed. You use that 'devoid of life' in a different way then I had in my mind.

Datisi am I reading you wrong here?

I think there's a decent chance all 3 of us are town here

Spoiler: back on it after others said that they thought i was scummy as well

Tbf I'm probably grasping at straws a bit, I've drank a bit too much tonight lol. But this game is stalling and needs to go somewhere

That's the whole point tbh, RVS is pointless but it's used as a starting point to get into actual game talk. I try to do my best to find something, anything, to work with from RVS. Though talking about it in this meta way probably invalidates a fair bit of that.

Someone come chat with me, I'm town and I feel like I can make myself fairly obvious town in this state lmao

These posts scream town to me

How do they scream town? They're NAI and contain almost no good content.

I disagree with this. It reads a lot like town, maybe we are looking for different things.

@luca

Datisi and icon are both nitpicking rn and they both pushed the inactive slot. The least productive thing they could have done. When did they do this?

When datisi was being pressured more than she has been the entire game so far.

Ehm, I was like the dude who actually pushed Datisi tho.

VOTE: kop

What the hell icon... A little AtE and datisi is town again?

That is a good point. The end of that interaction felt bad. Like not complete? Cos my feelings for datisi got worse by that point. Why did you change your vote icon?

Damn. But the waffle block...

I felt equally terrible about leaving Datisi be for now.

I see where tchill is coming from with his analysis, but I don't agree with him that this was a low risk look productive play from Icon. This entire gamestate has been convoluted and confused. There's been very little voting activity. The one time that Icon had cased previously some folks went over to Nips. I don't know that there's scum motivation to take that risk in the current gamestate.

'Not a lot of voting activity' did you even read the last couple pages?

Icon's motivation for Datisi:

My questioning of her is genuine. I think there's a lot of scum equity in Datisi, and her catchup post is just all scum. However, I'm a sucker for the ladies and I have a history with Datisi that makes me reconsider/hold back/use the soft gloves on her.

I thought that if I gave a bit of breathing room she would either continue to slip or start town spewing so I could better sort her.
In any case I have very little interest in letting a full slot get to D2 with TWO posts in ISO. That's bad for us.

Did I stop pressuring Datisi? Yes. Do I think Datisi is town? No.

I hope this answers all of your questions, if not, shoot.

With the inactive slot probably being replaced I feel fine with voting elsewhere

VOTE: Datisi

I think the catchup was really scummy, her readslist doesn't make a lot of sense and is very surface level. These are the reasons I pushed. I also strongly feel we should not be overlooking inactive slots, because they hurt town more in the late game then a scummy D1 slot.

My main issue reading those posts was 'devoid of life', while I thought the posts contained at least decent content and were definitely not empty.
When she reworded to 'reading fake' I thought OK, I could kinda see that.

I left her some room and went off to push out the inactive slot (which you'd be surprised at how often they actually start posting all of a sudden, so it's definitely not a waste of time).

Datisi has the most scum equity and should be the D1 lynch as it stands now, but I'd rather see more of Kop slot before that happens.

That's about as clear as I can make my thoughts rn

[Datisi]

Ali you've read the game yes?

Datisi wa being silent, I called her out to post something, she posted a (not so great) readslist and is now being pushed for the list and for her reactions to it. You call it a bad wagon, but have failed to point what is so awfull about it.

You said I wasn't pushed for the readslist though, but for the motivation?

[Alisae]

VOTE: Datisi

The more I look at that reads list of hers the more I feel like it isn't genuine. I feel like it was always her intention to jump on the Kop wagon eventually but she was concerned about picking the easy target, so she stuck a half-hearted vote on me instead and then allowed herself to be

talked into

joining the easy wagon.

and like
this is bad
really bad

[Iconeum]

Datisi if you actually scumread me for my progression there you would never ever as town have followed me onto Kop there

[Iconeum]

Ali you've read the game yes?

Datisi wa being silent, I called her out to post something, she posted a (not so great) readslist and is now being pushed for the list and for her reactions to it. You call it a bad wagon, but have failed to point what is so awfull about it.

You said I wasn't pushed for the readslist though, but for the motivation?

yep

[Alisae]

Icon so how do you start from 369 and 371 to end on 490

[Datisi]

Spoiler: first push

I think scums talking about how waffles are better than pancakes

what the fuck is wrong with you

Hmm, I read through Datisi ISO and I can see where you are coming from.

Yo Datisi I know ur lurking around here somewhere

Come and do stuff, like put your vote where it's usefull so I can get a read on you

VOTE: Datisi

Spoiler: push after i tried to explain my reads

Why pressure Billy (my solid townread) and Nippleflips (not a bad choice, but your motivation was lacking), and NOT the slot you think was 'faking' it or who's post are 'devoid of life'?

Datisi you are capable of much better reads then that when ur town

Town!you doesn't just read those posts and thinks 'hey, he's using excuses to post less, this means he is position himself as town leader!'

I've marked in red the parts that are pinging me. It simply seems as if he's trying to position himself in a "town-leadrer, voice of reason" position and to appear much more busy/credible than he is. Also note that these posts came after I nulled Luca.

There are multiple instances (you even marked them red) where he says he is busy and his reads are a work in progress (which they should be?)
From this you make a story that says 'he's positioning himself as town leader' that doesn't make sense

You also said you think his posts are devoid of life, which is ok to say but I disagree. You change your story to 'his posting seems fake' which is not a lesser degree of 'devoid of life', but something else entirely. You kinda had to change, because you know you can't sell his posts as empty.

VOTE: Datisi

Spoiler: giving up on the push

Luca

-

Their posts seem... fake? I can't explain it well, but I just feel their posts are so devoid of life, like they're cold and calculated.

It could be just their playstyle, but it's giving me bad vibes.

Of course they should be a work in progress. But the way he keeps pointing it out.

Also I called them "fake" efore I called them "devoid of life".

Hmm indeed. You use that 'devoid of life' in a different way then I had in my mind.

Datisi am I reading you wrong here?

I think there's a decent chance all 3 of us are town here

reminder that the hop-on on Kop happened here, before the final spoiler

Spoiler: back on it after others said that they thought i was scummy as well

Tbf I'm probably grasping at straws a bit, I've drank a bit too much tonight lol. But this game is stalling and needs to go somewhere

That's the whole point tbh, RVS is pointless but it's used as a starting point to get into actual game talk. I try to do my best to find something, anything, to work with from RVS. Though talking about it in this meta way probably invalidates a fair bit of that.

Someone come chat with me, I'm town and I feel like I can make myself fairly obvious town in this state lmao

These posts scream town to me

How do they scream town? They're NAI and contain almost no good content.

I disagree with this. It reads a lot like town, maybe we are looking for different things.

@luca

Datisi and icon are both nitpicking rn and they both pushed the inactive slot. The least productive thing they could have done. When did they do this?

When datisi was being pressured more than she has been the entire game so far.

Ehm, I was like the dude who actually pushed Datisi tho.

VOTE: kop

What the hell icon... A little AtE and datisi is town again?

That is a good point. The end of that interaction felt bad. Like not complete? Cos my feelings for datisi got worse by that point. Why did you change your vote icon?

Damn. But the waffle block...

I felt equally terrible about leaving Datisi be for now.

I see where tchill is coming from with his analysis, but I don't agree with him that this was a low risk look productive play from Icon. This entire gamestate has been convoluted and confused. There's been very little voting activity. The one time that Icon had cased previously some folks went over to Nips. I don't know that there's scum motivation to take that risk in the current gamestate.

'Not a lot of voting activity' did you even read the last couple pages?

Icon's motivation for Datisi:

My questioning of her is genuine. I think there's a lot of scum equity in Datisi, and her catchup post is just all scum. However, I'm a sucker for the ladies and I have a history with Datisi that makes me reconsider/hold back/use the soft gloves on her.

I thought that if I gave a bit of breathing room she would either continue to slip or start town spewing so I could better sort her.
In any case I have very little interest in letting a full slot get to D2 with TWO posts in ISO. That's bad for us.

Did I stop pressuring Datisi? Yes. Do I think Datisi is town? No.

I hope this answers all of your questions, if not, shoot.

With the inactive slot probably being replaced I feel fine with voting elsewhere

VOTE: Datisi

I think the catchup was really scummy, her readslist doesn't make a lot of sense and is very surface level. These are the reasons I pushed. I also strongly feel we should not be overlooking inactive slots, because they hurt town more in the late game then a scummy D1 slot.

My main issue reading those posts was 'devoid of life', while I thought the posts contained at least decent content and were definitely not empty.
When she reworded to 'reading fake' I thought OK, I could kinda see that.

I left her some room and went off to push out the inactive slot (which you'd be surprised at how often they actually start posting all of a sudden, so it's definitely not a waste of time).

Datisi has the most scum equity and should be the D1 lynch as it stands now, but I'd rather see more of Kop slot before that happens.

That's about as clear as I can make my thoughts rn

[Iconeum]

Icon so how do you start from 369 and 371 to end on 490

already discussed this

[Iconeum]

Icon so how do you start from 369 and 371 to end on 490

already discussed this

[Iconeum]

I've already explained that I pushed Datisi, why I backed off when I did it, and why I hopped back on

[Datisi]

Ali you've read the game yes?

Datisi wa being silent, I called her out to post something, she posted a (not so great) readslist and is now being pushed for the list and for her reactions to it. You call it a bad wagon, but have failed to point what is so awfull about it.

You said I wasn't pushed for the readslist though, but for the motivation?

yep

Can you elaborate?

[Alisae]

I've already explained that I pushed Datisi, why I backed off when I did it, and why I hopped back on

quote it for me?

[Iconeum]

If you truly want to push me over this, it's not gonna end well I can already promise you this.

Especially Ali, if you choose to progress down this path instead of talking about the actual current discussions.

[Alisae]

oh wait no i see it

[Alisae]

If you truly want to push me over this, it's not gonna end well I can already promise you this.

Especially Ali, if you choose to progress down this path instead of talking about the actual current discussions.

I'm trying to figure out the game????????

[Iconeum]

I've already explained that I pushed Datisi, why I backed off when I did it, and why I hopped back on

quote it for me?

Just reread the last part of my ISO

I know the timing is bad, but I'm leaving now (as I do every single day at this time, so don't even try to pin this on me :p)

I'm back tomorrow

[Iconeum]

If you truly want to push me over this, it's not gonna end well I can already promise you this.

Especially Ali, if you choose to progress down this path instead of talking about the actual current discussions.

I'm trying to figure out the game????????

Me 2. And I'm trying to sort you as well

[Datisi]

This game just gave me a nosebleed. Hope yall happy with yourselves.

[Alisae]

ok just tell me what were the thought processes behind 369 and 371 and u can sleep