Mini Normal 2095 - Game Over!

[Luca Blight]

That’s the third time you’ve avoided the question, so I’m going to assume you can’t answer it and that you did indeed just throw it in to pad out your terrible case.

[Alisae]

Waaaaah someone is trying to hold me accountable for the amount of nothing I did all game waaaaaaaaah

[Alisae]

Yeah yeah whatever makes you sleep at night

[Luca Blight]

And yet your biggest townread has clearly done a lot less than I have.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: alisae

I find it hard to believe a Townie could be so unreasonable.

[Alisae]

LOL

[Alisae]

Idunno why you expect me to be reasonable when we both know nothing you say to me will change my mind
If you want to change my mind
Do literally
Anything else
But talk to me

[Luca Blight]

I can’t remember playing with you before, but I would expect any Townie to at least be open to the possibility that they might be wrong. The strange amount of certainty you seem to have and your unwillingness to even question your reads (which were formed pretty hastily) is a scumtell, in my opinion. I really can’t believe right now that the discussion I just had was with a Town player.

[Alisae]

And I can’t believe its not butter

[Alisae]

I don’t see why I should give you that opportunity to change my mind.
I don’t trust you and nothing you’ve said to me suggests that I could be wrong and that I should trust you.
If I am wrong, someone that I trust will talk me out of it, or you’ll just flip.
I don’t see what about my read on you I should question.
You’ve done nothing all game you’ve put a fucking awful vote on Datisi
You’re scum

[Alisae]

You’re still talking to me
You expect me to change my mind
But nothing you’re saying is making me want to change my mind and this expectation is so unrealistic that I think you scumreading me and presenting it as “this is not play townies ever have” is a self-defense measure.

[Luca Blight]

Was your point that I was throwing shade in 85 a mistake or do you have anything to back it up?

And no, I don’t expect you to change your mind because I don’t believe you’re Town.

[Alisae]

Then why did you mention several times that town here would think to reconsider?
What did you even say that would make town!me reconsider

[Luca Blight]

At the start I thought it was possible you were Town therefore it was possible to change your mind, but I no longer believe that. Whatever I’ve said you have just dismissed it or changed the argument, or entirely ignored what I’ve said.

I’ve played with stubborn players in my time, but never someone who has been so sure about something from such hastily assembled reads without a moment’s doubt. It isn’t natural.

[Luca Blight]

And your Datisi read doesn’t make sense to me; I would expect a townie in your position to have at least some suspicion of that slot, yet you seem to have zero.

[Almost50]

Almost50 replaces Robbnva

I love you too, bro

I can't believe this game isn't over yet!! You have Billy Pilgrim & Kop, both obviously REDS, and then their main rivals nowadays are the CITIZENS! Can any of you get a clue?

Can we like not do this thing we do every single game for at least the first day phase?

[Almost50]

Alisae replaces Kop.

UNVOTE:

Might as well see what Ali's bringing to the table (No healthy food for me, please and thank you)

[Almost50]

I am playing a normal game in the normal queue
Wow

Since when was your play "normal"??

Straight up: Are you scum or should I save us booth the trouble?

[Alisae]

I am playing a normal game in the normal queue
Wow

Since when was your play "normal"??

Straight up: Are you scum or should I save us booth the trouble?

lol
But I’m town

[Almost50]

I "think" this is Town!Ali. That's the good news.

The bad news is I am genuinely lost and I hate this feeling. having too many scum reads is one -lousy- feeling, but having none is much much worse!

[Alisae]

I "think" this is Town!Ali. That's the good news.

The bad news is I am genuinely lost and I hate this feeling. having too many scum reads is one -lousy- feeling, but having none is much much worse!

okay so let me help you
Why is everyone town?

[Almost50]

The previous post was by the end of page 24, btw

[Almost50]

I "think" this is Town!Ali. That's the good news.

The bad news is I am genuinely lost and I hate this feeling. having too many scum reads is one -lousy- feeling, but having none is much much worse!

okay so let me help you
Why is everyone town?

Because I haven't seen much that screams scum to me. Nobody's even crumbing or scum slipping! Oh, what has the world come to?

I still have 4 pages to read though. In the mean time, if you would be so kind as to point out what exactly you didn't like about Luca's posts you quoted I'd be much obliged

[Alisae]

I "think" this is Town!Ali. That's the good news.

The bad news is I am genuinely lost and I hate this feeling. having too many scum reads is one -lousy- feeling, but having none is much much worse!

okay so let me help you
Why is everyone town?

Because I haven't seen much that screams scum to me. Nobody's even crumbing or scum slipping! Oh, what has the world come to?

I still have 4 pages to read though. In the mean time, if you would be so kind as to point out what exactly you didn't like about Luca's posts you quoted I'd be much obliged

keep reading also i think what would probably help you out is explaining your own townreads and then sorting from strongest townread to weakest townread and going from there
Who knows, maybe you might find something that you realize isn’t as important/relevant as you thought it might be?

[Alisae]

I’m just sayin dude
If you’re lost
The best thing to do is to talk about why you have each read you have and work with others to help get you back on track

[Almost50]

Spoiler: Ali's 636

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Scum
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Luca - His whole ISO sucks. Nothing in there is actually substanial at all. All of his reads come across as making stuff up on the fly (a lot of times when he is talking about a read, he gives himself room for said read to go either way). He's not really taking any risks and is in general playing really safe. I really want to see Luca go after something instead of just do nothing. Because a lot of what his ISO is nothing. And anything that like, remotely looks like analysis is really surface level stuff.
54 is just a gut scummy start mostly because I don't like the fact he has to feel like he has to have a stance first thing.
His shade in 85 is bad and comes across as scummy.
The Klick stance in 214 just sucks because the way he presents it, it really seems like it could go either way depending on what happens.
224 kind of just sucks. I'm not buying the "scum who is at a loss of what to do" narative at all because when I was reading that, I was generally liking that interaction with Billy.
318 is bad because its him just saying that Klick is town over and over again. The individual points aren't anything thats new. Also in the way its presented itself, I dislike this because he's just saying the samething over and over again. Like, he's trying to look like he's solving, but nothing in that post is actually adding anything new to the game. Its just non-stop praise and I don't like it.
Also apparently, accoriding to you, 325 contains content but it doesn't? Like, that can be faked.
488 is opportunistic. The narative being built here sucks. The vote is just scum.

Icon - I like Datisi so I don't like how Icon is pushing it. I hate how I'm immediately attacked in 593 while I'm catching up. I also kinda feel like Icon is definitely trying to control the game in a way I really don't like. Like, the threat in 618 kinda comes across as "how dare you question my authority." I state a scumread on Luca and that I'm not completely buying the Datisi wagon and I'm being attacked for it because its "not current" like????? Also, I'm really not buying how his confidence level goes from "maybe we're all town" to "I have this super confident read on Datisi. I'm using words to make it look like I WAS uncertain to make it look like I'm trying to solve, but I actually just had this really confident scumread the whole time hahahaha." Not to mention what the original fuss was over, is completely irrelevant. "Devoid of Life" and "Fake" who cares they both mean the samething. It seemed just really semantic to me.

OK. Now that I know what pings you about Luca, why do you think Icon is scum rather than town making a bad push?

P.S. I am extra careful with icon because we do tend to hard tunnel each other as town .. both of us. So beare with me on this one, please.