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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:41 am

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In post 249, Gorkington wrote:do you also think pop is town?
Yes, I have feeling that she's town. What was so scummy in her miller callout post?
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:43 am

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I missed mafia where people try to use big words and big posts to look cool while uncaring that it just hurts town engagement
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:51 am

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just read like fake scum concern to me
i can be more detailed in lol4days when i have a computer again

but then ill probably have a lot more to catch up on/prioritize so this may be a bad promise to make :p
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:52 am

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would you be willing to help get a pine wagon going on a functional basis?
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:53 am

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Pops is town and how anyone managed to vote or continue voting him on pg 8 is beyond me
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:56 am

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oh ok then
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:57 am

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In post 202, ofrhz wrote:lol ok Perry, Penguin, and Fish are all town :3
In post 206, ofrhz wrote:Just lynch pops hnnnnggggggggg
Oh no half the players in this game are idiots

I cant wait to be a target every day no matter how obvtown I am like the last 2 games with this account
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:57 am

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ur voting fish lol
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:57 am

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In post 253, Gorkington wrote:would you be willing to help get a pine wagon going on a functional basis?
Fine by me

VOTE: Pine
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:59 am

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In post 219, Vecna wrote:But maybe that is offset by already starting the game addicted.
Aroo?
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:00 am

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pops is also she btw
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:02 am

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Ok now I'm seeing someone I know isnt stupid suspecting pops and I want to know what I'm missing
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:02 am

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In post 257, Gorkington wrote:ur voting fish lol
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:03 am

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In post 256, Chandra Nalaar wrote:
In post 202, ofrhz wrote:lol ok Perry, Penguin, and Fish are all town :3
In post 206, ofrhz wrote:Just lynch pops hnnnnggggggggg
Oh no half the players in this game are idiots

I cant wait to be a target every day no matter how obvtown I am like the last 2 games with this account
Fun fact ofrhz has never misread me as either alignment while I, have misread their name on several occasions and probably this one.
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:07 am

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i mean idk i dont really see anything obviously scummy about fish
my guess as to their main isnt helping my confidence in reading them either though so if you point a gun at me and convince me that theyre scum with also some words im open to being persuaded
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:13 am

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in terms of pops i think being "ahhhhhhh wtf" about people claiming things is veryyyyy safe content for scum to generate
and im not sure i believe how much she cared about it if that makes sense?
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:15 am

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So Bingle already outed the neighborhood - I actually
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think it's negative utility for town to leave it unclaimed or for town to target us. I would

I also don't understand why anyone would have assumed beforehand that they weren't the only miller or that if someone was in a neighborhood, it'd be a neighborhood full of millers. Or the assumption that town should have KNOWN there were multiple neighborhoods with similar roles grouped in that hood, prior to them claiming... Like. It feels like pops getting mad at people for revealing parts of the setup comes from a place of mafia knowledge/having more pieces of the puzzle from the start that town wouldn't have.

VOTE: pops to keep my mind on this.
At the same time I'm uncertain what mafia knowledge that would be unless like 2 members were in hoods themselves... well which may be the case.
Our hood didn't get night 0 talk so I don't think mafia would have either.

Day One Lynch feels like they could be defending a scumpartner or whiteknighting pops lol. Don't like it but my mind's more on pops rn.


On the town side. I'm liking Bingle as a solid townbloc pick (everything seems to come from a place of genuine town concern), not sure about Vecna.
Penguin feelings have flattened out.
Flavor Leaf I like a bit more - do think it could come from town concern but less certain that it actually does.
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:18 am

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wow why not just call pine scum and steal ALL MY READS while youre at it :p
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:18 am

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Continuation of line 1 - I would believe there is a LOT of town negative utility like millers in this game, given the number of actions the mod needs to give to town to make mafia's alternate wincon feasible.
Our neighborhood essentially neutralizes negative utility. If you must use a neg utility action, targeting us is fine.
In post 265, Gorkington wrote:in terms of pops i think being "ahhhhhhh wtf" about people claiming things is veryyyyy safe content for scum to generate
and im not sure i believe how much she cared about it if that makes sense?
This was my initial thought yeah. Usually complaining is easy to tell if genuine or not but this instance felt... not wholly committed in a sense
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:21 am

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In post 267, Gorkington wrote:wow why not just call pine scum and steal ALL MY READS while youre at it :p
I'm really not bothering to sort you but at the same time I want to call you town bc it's fun working with you and you'll always end up bamboozling me if you're scum
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:23 am

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nah dw im really bad at scum now
but im also doing the same with you to some extent so im probably a hypocrite lol
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:25 am

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In post 266, Marquis wrote: Our hood didn't get night 0 talk so I don't think mafia would have either.
I find this bit weird - mafia is confirmed to have daytalk in their PT
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:28 am

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In post 264, Gorkington wrote:i mean idk i dont really see anything obviously scummy about fish
my guess as to their main isnt helping my confidence in reading them either though so if you point a gun at me and convince me that theyre scum with also some words im open to being persuaded
I'll give it a shot if I'm still on him when I get more legit computer access but that wont be today
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:32 am

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In post 266, Marquis wrote:I also don't understand why anyone would have assumed beforehand that they weren't the only miller or that if someone was in a neighborhood, it'd be a neighborhood full of millers. Or the assumption that town should have KNOWN there were multiple neighborhoods with similar roles grouped in that hood, prior to them claiming
This tracks, I dont get that either - I should look back to see how this rolled out
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:32 am

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In post 271, Day One Wagon wrote:
In post 266, Marquis wrote: Our hood didn't get night 0 talk so I don't think mafia would have either.
I find this bit weird - mafia is confirmed to have daytalk in their PT
Thanks I forgot about daytalk lol


I feel like if I want to analyze that correction from DOL it's gonna lead me down a WIFOM path.
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