Newbie 1951 (Day 4)

[teacher]

OK, but talk to me about why Im scum, if you wont talk about skitter - for reasons that pass understanding.

@Fark, that would go to you to, since your "greatest scumtell ever" theory about me and selynee hasnt aged well. Like youve scumread me all game but been the only one (til now), so why?

[teacher]

That was my first game, I’ve evolved a lot as a player since then

Youre talking about what I know. And Im showing that scummy!you who only towns it up when wagonned is outside my experience. Which is why I SRed you all game til Fark flipped onto you.

[Menalque]

Lol actually now you mention it the fact that fark was SRing you forever does vaguely count in favour of town!you

[Menalque]

I’ve been talking about why you’re scum for about 5 pages

[teacher]

yea, but its all to do with literally the last four hours. IF thats enough to convince you, fair, but what would be my scum motivation for pushing creeper as the comp wagon when skitter was on you and I was on Fark? Like the Creeper inevitability I think came from Spam first, but me as the biggest pusher to find a compromise.

[Menalque]

But I might as well add that I don’t think town!you doesn’t have significant doubts about scum!me by this point, so the fact that you’re not having those is a good extra reason to SR you

Like I think when people go back through my ISO after I get mislynched (as they should but prob won’t bc as has been mentioned, this town is playing terribly — I think I was prob unfair when I said town

was

bad. You’re just playing bad) they’ll see how incredibly obvtown I’ve been this evening and the fact that you’ve engaged with me this much here but aren’t having any doubts is scum!indicative too

[Menalque]

yea, but its all to do with literally the last four hours. IF thats enough to convince you, fair, but what would be my scum motivation for pushing creeper as the comp wagon when skitter was on you and I was on Fark? Like the Creeper inevitability I think came from Spam first, but me as the biggest pusher to find a compromise.

I don’t think anything you did before the last 4 hours is outside the range of scum!you efforting obv!town

But I think the last 4 hours is enough to hard scumread you

It’s like, say your partner has been kinda nice, gets you presents, cooks dinner, sometimes gives you a back rub for a year

When you’re evaluating them as a partner, if you walk in on them fucking someone else then you’re gonna weight that more in the evaluation than all the little stuff that came before

[teacher]

I have doubts. That’s why I’m trying to get the Skitter theory now. It’s literally the one thing you won’t do. You’ve made quite clear town should lynch me in 20 posts, but you haven’t given that one.

[Selynee]

Don't know. To be honest, I've expected scum to try to use "the busywork question" here (which I've felt was misunderstood) as the more easy narrative to push.

[Menalque]

Why would town!me give scum!you (from my POV if we are dealing with town!you) what you want?

[Menalque]

Don't know. To be honest, I've expected scum to try to use "the busywork question" here (which I've felt was misunderstood) as the more easy narrative to push.

Huh?

[teacher]

What you are doing now could be the swing for the fences ate or could be real. A Skitter theory would lend more credence to the latter. So?

Because town!you would recognize that the back rubs meant at least the possibility that you are wrong.

[teacher]

Don't know. To be honest, I've expected scum to try to use "the busywork question" here (which I've felt was misunderstood) as the more easy narrative to push.

Huh?

Skitters theory on why she would go selynee after a creeper scum flip.

[Menalque]

What you are doing now could be the swing for the fences ate or could be real. A Skitter theory would lend more credence to the latter. So?

Because town!you would recognize that the back rubs meant at least the possibility that you are wrong.

Back rubs?

[Menalque]

What is “the busywork question” tho?

[Menalque]

Also I mean, I’m off my laptop

If you hadn’t been so incredibly scummy the last few pages I might have done it when we were talking half an hour ago

I might still have done it tomorrow

Only now I can’t

Because you rushed night through. When we had. 3 days left on deadline. Almost as it. You didn’t. Actually. Want me to post the case???

[teacher]

The play that you called town three days ago.

Like if you were legit into Skitter, you’d recognize at least a 25% chance that your read of me AND her was right and you’d want to out that rather than leave it with Fark who would lose to skit in lylo by lynching sushi.

I’d also think town you recognizes I’ve been saying I’m open to defending you tomorrow if you can provide a narrative I can grok, but only under those circumstances, and would be trying to avoid a mislynch.

[teacher]

Dude when you’ve written 35 posts at least you could have done it, so don’t even try to put it on me that you didn’t. You’ve had 20+hours since I first asked.

[Menalque]

I can’t avoid the mislynch because this has been set up really well by the remaining scum to be me tomorrow

I still enjoy playing with you teacher but I have absolutely got you dead to rights here

You’ve got this setup so I can’t get you lynched given the gamestate but I’m p confident we still win

My reads have evolved. That’s all there is too it. I’ve been incredibly towny tonight, and my progression is obvious and clearly from a town mindset if any town players feel like not playing terrible this game and actually reading it

For now tho, it’s late, so night all

[Menalque]

Reading it being reading my ISO*

[teacher]

And scum!me would want the answer to push skit as you’ve been saying. So scum!me rushes to end the day without it? Seriously man, your emotions are clouding your logical contradictions - I’m scummy for rushing the day to prevent talk, but I’m scummy for trying to talk?

And if you’re town, you’re right that town is playing bad. So enjoy that one postgame.

[Menalque]

Dude when you’ve written 35 posts at least you could have done it, so don’t even try to put it on me that you didn’t. You’ve had 20+hours since I first asked.

Oh and I made it super clear that I would but hadn’t had a chance to. If town you actually wanted to hear it, you wouldn’t have forced night through while I was offline and had said I’d be offline

[Menalque]

Read my ISO

Read teacher’s ISO

Vote teacher tomorrow

[Farkran]

OK, but talk to me about why Im scum, if you wont talk about skitter - for reasons that pass understanding.

@Fark, that would go to you to, since your "greatest scumtell ever" theory about me and selynee hasnt aged well. Like youve scumread me all game but been the only one (til now), so why?

Eh, could have been a huge scumtell or a simple overlook, turned out it was the 2nd. I was rereading the day as scum!sely pov because if creeper flipped town she would have been in a pretty bad spot. Turned out creeper is scum, so she just wasn't paying attention to her post.

As for why i believed you were scum earlier: i honestly trusted my gut about you being too chill about the game, provided little analysis in the early pages, tried to pocket emps and skitter (and to some extent NMSA), provided some misreps i thought you wouldn't do as an attentive town player. So far this was just me "testing" your presence in the game, i was SLing you at that point. Finally you jumped off the mena wagon way too early - my reads on mena have been rollercoastering for the whole game - jumping off his train at that time (crappy defense, no claim), just because i joined, reinforced my hypotesis of scum!teacher. I could easily associate you with selynee even without the "greatest scumtell ever" given the trains comps and scarce interaction. All in all, i believe you were a solid SR in my mind - possibly not from this site's standard pov.

My solve as mena>teacher>sushi>skitter still stands.

[teacher]

Yea, that was my guess. No need.

VOTE: Creep
Hammer.

Your narrative is so conf!biased it’s hilarious. This is 30 minutes after you had said you’d be back (which I missed in any event). The hammer didn’t fall for an hour. You’ve been online and talking for more than two. You had plenty of time.

Also, when you have caught confirmed scum, you get excited. Look at the posts around this time. That is happy playfulness and celebration. I appreciate the compliment that you think I can fake that emotional release, but....no.