Undertale Semi-Open Dead PT

[Chemist1422]

fwiw the correct answer to "hard claim never rescinding" is always "no" unless you're in LyLo or at like L-1

at least imo

[Oversoul]

Watching Chennis trying to figure out the machinations of my mind is entertaining because I quite don’t understand the machinations of my own mind.

Hmm. That might get me blacklisted from games.

[Chemist1422]

Watching Chennis trying to figure out the machinations of my mind is entertaining because I quite don’t understand the machinations of my own mind.

Hmm. That might get me blacklisted from games.

it's okay I don't understand my own and am usually worthless when it comes to content levels and I haven't been blacklisted yet

[Oversoul]

It’s like when I’m playing Smash Bros. I mostly don’t think, I just

do

. Maybe that’s because I’ve been playing it for so long and it is second nature to me. I’ve also been lying for long it’s second nature to me. Whoa Dr. Phil when’d you get here.

[Oversoul]

fwiw the correct answer to "hard claim never rescinding" is always "no" unless you're in LyLo or at like L-1

at least imo

This is fair. Avoids the Lynch All Liars. But I think that philosophy is too archaic in this day and age.

[popsofctown]

No one let Adorable go back to her home site, her posts are fun to read

[Oversoul]

So how does Adorable know Chemist protected her exactly? Is that a slip?

[Oversoul]

oh dur, she was in the spare chat

[Oversoul]

I think Adorable is pretty good, she just needs to be a bit more active

[popsofctown]

In 2008 she would be a hyperposter.

She has not been prodded all game

[Oversoul]

Hmm, that is interesting. I forgot how different it was back then. I hope it is Adorable because it would be very, very funny for Chennis to choose correctly based off associations with me.

[popsofctown]

volxen adorable otp

[volxen]

Hmm, that is interesting. I forgot how different it was back then. I hope it is Adorable because it would be very, very funny for Chennis to choose correctly based off associations with me.

Uh-oh maybe the scumteam is Oversoul/Elements!

[popsofctown]

volxen it's fun to goof around but when people come to the dead thread they tend to just want closure. They have gone through a lot of anxiety and stress trying to find the scum in the thread. There has been intrigue there has been lies. For you as scum it is fun to take potshots. But it is kind of rude and mean to the townies. Especially in a game that you have probably won, as Adorable's recent AtE and reasoning looks destined for success to me. You know that neither Oversoul nor Elements are scum, please be more sportsmanslike than this.

Though I just have to ask, why did you let Adorable select every single nightkill? Admittedly the way she is explaining them all in the thread looks pretty masterful right now, but at the time she offered no reasoning at all, and said "just trust me", and you just went with it. Elements seems really towny and it really seems like you should have shot him earlier, I think you added a little risk to a 100% lock win by leaving him alive just because Adorable kept saying "trust me".

[Oversoul]

I was confused by the DDL kill over Elements as well. But Adorable did somehow pick all the people that I would have pushed as town spares, so maybe she knows something we don’t.

Also, does town only get one lynch after the core has been reached? Or can town no lynch?

[Chemist1422]

I was protecting Elements every night until they got spared so

[popsofctown]

I was confused by the DDL kill over Elements as well. But Adorable did somehow pick all the people that I would have pushed as town spares, so maybe she knows something we don’t.

Also, does town only get one lynch after the core has been reached? Or can town no lynch?

S_S's writing of the setup is that it's ambiguous, so in rulesets that allow a no lynch that are implementing this setup you would be able to have that. However since there is always one cleared player in this gamestate the no lynch doesn't actually change much. You could shoot the least lynchable uncleared player if his reads are better and play the WIFOM of whether town will start deadsheeping since the clear wasn't murdered and that must mean something or that's just what the mafia wants them to think.
The most meaningful difference might be the doubled deadline.

Anyway, I wrote procedural rules against no-lynches in the setup this time around. Aside from my not finding the above scenario very palatable, I figured there was a broader possibility of unforeseen interactions and strategies if I allowed no-lynches, so it was a bit of a safety valve. I didn't use enough safety valves for the Toriel fiasco so I still agree with that approach for the first run of the setup.

[popsofctown]

I was protecting Elements every night until they got spared so

Hm that's true, and since Adorable is the one who would have to guess that I can't ask her until the game is over.

[popsofctown]

this Elements-Adorable 1v1 is *MichaelJackson eating popcorn*

[Oversoul]

Adorable is going for it. Hopefully chennis continues to be right for the wrong reasons. I imagine I’m gonna get an earful from him after the game.

[Chemist1422]

hey mod what's your favorite undertale song

[popsofctown]

Muffet bossfight. It's not close.

[popsofctown]

I was going to post Undertale music links this game but it's an extra mile I didn't get to with my modding here.

I am not really a mod at heart I am more of a player at heart.

But this setup is fantastic and was not getting run and I needed for it to be run.

[Chemist1422]

Muffet bossfight. It's not close.

that one's like 8th for me lol

hopes and dreams/save the world is my favorite but I really like ASGORE too

MEGALOVANIA is on there because megalovania

[Oversoul]

It is such a good setup. I would play another run of this. Remember the secret scum strat I messaged you?