Newbie 1953 | Zooborns IV | Game Over

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.02

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Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Chemist1422

(2): Micc, skitter30

Mr Oobsy

(1): Leucosticte

Micc

(1): Farren

Jamelia

(1): Dyrenz

Leucosticte

(1): Chemist1422

Not Voting

(3): Mr Oobsy, mmiscrazy12, Jamelia

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-09-04 23:00:00).

Mod notes:

mmiscrazy12 has another (expired on 2019-08-26 15:15:00) to remember mafiascum exists before I start looking for a replacement.[/area]

[skitter30]

In other words, townies might think, "In the interests of not getting mislynched, I need to act in ways that aren't suspicious, such as by jumping on bandwagons rather than taking some stance that no one else is taking, which might be hard to defend by myself (especially since, if people point out why that stance is defensible, others might ask, 'Well then why didn't you take that stance too?' If I go with the bandwagon, then everyone else on that bandwagon has to stick up for me if I'm accused, or else they would be sus too by the same reasoning that I would be sus. So, there's safety in numbers."

this is mostly considered a scummy mindset on this site

[skitter30]

UNVOTE: Chemist1422
VOTE: Mr Oobsy

Mr Oobsy is being quiet.. almost TOO quiet

it could be he just forgot that the site exists

also farren is scumpinging me

[Plotinus]

mmiscrazy12 is being replaced. If they remember that mafiascum exists before I find a replacement, they can stay.

[Jamelia]

Hi! I’m sorry for my inactivity. I didn’t check if we had started last night and woke up this morning and ran to the forum haha.

I’ve never played mafia on this board before (or in this community) but I’m looking forward to it!

[Plotinus]

NorwegianBoyEE replaces mmiscrazy12! Please welcome them. Everyone has confirmed now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hello friends. I'm going to read the thread and find out if there's anyone i find particularly scummy in a follow up post.

[NorwegianboyEE]

welp since the other SEs are doing it I might as well

don’t listen to peer pressure, or you’ll end up like me

VOTE: leucodticte

ik there’s a typo but my phone won’t let me fix it

This seems very scummy. The game had barely started and his vote already puts Leucosticte (Who hadn't even talked yet by this point) to L-2. He's seemingly going along with the bandwagon with nothing to go for it except: "Hey, let's just lynch this guy because two people already voted, so that makes me look less suspicious right? Right?"

I'm not feeling forgiving for this since he is apparently supposed to be a "semi-experienced player" so i don't buy that he did this accidentally or because of a lack of understanding about the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: VOTE: Chemist1422

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sry i screwed up the vote post lol. I've never played mafia on these forums before so i might make some mistakes.
Anyway, Chemist1422. If you've got anything to say in your defense. Now is the time to speak up.

[Chemist1422]

Why are you treating my RVS post as if it was a serious one?

And please drop the numbers it annoys me

[Farren]

UNVOTE: Chemist1422
VOTE: Mr Oobsy

Mr Oobsy is being quiet.. almost TOO quiet

it could be he just forgot that the site exists

also farren is scumpinging me

That'd be pretty bad memory, given that by that point he'd confirmed participation. Not likely.

Why am I scumpinging you?

[Farren]

Hi! I’m sorry for my inactivity. I didn’t check if we had started last night and woke up this morning and ran to the forum haha.

I’ve never played mafia on this board before (or in this community) but I’m looking forward to it!

Got any thoughts on the game so far?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why are you treating my RVS post as if it was a serious one?

And please drop the numbers it annoys me

You call it RVS, i have a different name for it. Aggression.
I don't know what kind of culture exists at this site, but where i come from we generally frown upon people that meekly follow the whims of the masses in feeding baseless bandwagons. Even if you don't turn out to be scum, i doubt the town would be overly harmed by one mislynch of this caliber.
I also fail to see anyone suspicious other than you right now, so unless there's substantial information to be gained from any future discussion i'm keeping my vote the way it is.
You're all unknown people to me, so i am basing my vote on a completely objective analysis. I cannot analyze any specific users potentially deviant behavior from their "normal" like i usually do off-site.

Why would i drop the numbers? I don't know you, so i see no reason to treat you in an informal manner. If you didn't want people to say the numbers, why did you include them in your username at all?

[skitter30]

UNVOTE: Chemist1422
VOTE: Mr Oobsy

Mr Oobsy is being quiet.. almost TOO quiet

it could be he just forgot that the site exists

also farren is scumpinging me

That'd be pretty bad memory, given that by that point he'd confirmed participation. Not likely.

Why am I scumpinging you?

It happens fairly often in newbie games, surprisingly enough. If he doesnt show up soonish plot will replace him

And idk yet
Trying to articulate: Your posts feel kinda lamist (look at me i'm so town) and feel busy-work-y sorta

[Farren]

You call it RVS, i have a different name for it. Aggression.
I don't know what kind of culture exists at this site, but where i come from we generally frown upon people that meekly follow the whims of the masses in feeding baseless bandwagons. Even if you don't turn out to be scum, i doubt the town would be overly harmed by one mislynch of this caliber.
I also fail to see anyone suspicious other than you right now, so unless there's substantial information to be gained from any future discussion i'm keeping my vote the way it is.
You're all unknown people to me, so i am basing my vote on a completely objective analysis. I cannot analyze any specific users potentially deviant behavior from their "normal" like i usually do off-site.

Why would i drop the numbers? I don't know you, so i see no reason to treat you in an informal manner. If you didn't want people to say the numbers, why did you include them in your username at all?

UNVOTE: Micc
VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

Your post is aggressive, but you claim Chemist is being aggressive and use it to justify your vote on him.

As a side note - you'd drop the numbers because Chemist asked people politely to do so.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The difference is that i have a valid reason for voting Chemist. (He put someone who had barely been given the time to talk into L-2 at the beginning of the game)
Chemist has no valid reason to vote Leucosticte. (Unless you seriously count: "difficult to spell name" as a valid reason)

The initial two voters could be forgiven because they clearly label their attempts as early RVS. Meanwhile Chemist just goes along with it and uses very suspicious language that suggests his only reason for voting is because "everyone else is doing it" which is a terrible reason.

[Farren]

It happens fairly often in newbie games, surprisingly enough. If he doesnt show up soonish plot will replace him

And idk yet
Trying to articulate: Your posts feel kinda lamist (look at me i'm so town) and feel busy-work-y sorta

I wouldn't be overly surprised if he doesn't show up. I just wouldn't attribute it to memory.

My read on you remains unchanged - slightly towards Town.

[Farren]

The difference is that i have a valid reason for voting Chemist. (He put someone who had barely been given the time to talk into L-2 at the beginning of the game)
Chemist has no valid reason to vote Leucosticte. (Unless you seriously count: "difficult to spell name" as a valid reason)

The initial two voters could be forgiven because they clearly label their attempts as early RVS. Meanwhile Chemist just goes along with it and uses very suspicious language that suggests his only reason for voting is because "everyone else is doing it" which is a terrible reason.

Do you think Leucosticte is Town? How strong is your opinion?

[Jamelia]

Hi! I’m sorry for my inactivity. I didn’t check if we had started last night and woke up this morning and ran to the forum haha.

I’ve never played mafia on this board before (or in this community) but I’m looking forward to it!

Got any thoughts on the game so far?

I’ll be completely honest I don’t understand the automatic accusations? I don’t think anyone has done anything too scummy but obviously I am still new to the MS meta.

[NorwegianboyEE]

[quote=]Do you think Leucosticte is Town? How strong is your opinion?[/quote]
Ehh, i'm neutral on Leucosticte. I like how he talks, and he comes up with interesting information. My fondness on him is not based upon a particularly strong "townread", but because i'd think it would be useful to keep him around for longer. In general i prefer the more talkative and useful individuals to stick around past day 1. After that i'd scrutinize them more.

[Farren]

I’ll be completely honest I don’t understand the automatic accusations? I don’t think anyone has done anything too scummy but obviously I am still new to the MS meta.

If there's something you don't understand, ask. Confusing argument? Ask the person who made it. Spurs discussion at worst, catches scum at best.

[Chemist1422]

The difference is that i have a valid reason for voting Chemist. (He put someone who had barely been given the time to talk into L-2 at the beginning of the game)
Chemist has no valid reason to vote Leucosticte. (Unless you seriously count: "difficult to spell name" as a valid reason)

The initial two voters could be forgiven because they clearly label their attempts as early RVS. Meanwhile Chemist just goes along with it and uses very suspicious language that suggests his only reason for voting is because "everyone else is doing it" which is a terrible reason.

???

From what I’m getting here you’re calling me scum because my vote that was clearly during RVS was not adequately labeled as such?

[NorwegianboyEE]

What is even the purpose of putting someone that's barely said anything into L-2? That's what i cannot understand.
It seemed like you were hoping for the town to hammer a vote on him without even giving him time to talk.
If you didn't get that from what i was saying earlier then i wonder if we have some deeper communication issues at play here. Because that's the point I've been trying to make since the beginning of my accusation.

[Chemist1422]

What is even the purpose of putting someone that's barely said anything into L-2? That's what i cannot understand.
It seemed like you were hoping for the town to hammer a vote on him without even giving him time to talk.
If you didn't get that from what i was saying earlier then i wonder if we have some deeper communication issues at play here. Because that's the point I've been trying to make since the beginning of my accusation.

I have not no

And I still don’t see how that’s what you got from it? If it had gone to L-1 I would have unvoted