Newbie 1951 (Day 4)

[teacher]

Am I misunderstanding you that it was a reference to another on going game w skirt in it?

If yes, I do owe you an apology and sincerely offer it.

If I, I do think it’s contrary to the ongoing game rule. If not the letter, then the spirit. It’s a way to communicate to one person without communicating to the board. I think that is gross and cursing at me isn’t going to change that view.

[Menalque]

Mena ur playing against wincon regardless of alignment. If you're scum that was gamethrowing, if you're town you've guaranteed your own ml and shortened the day.

You didn't even contribute anything besides what you said yesterday

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If you're not gonna read my posts then obviously you're gonna think that. If you are and you just can't see that I've been contributing then that's your problem. Have fun losing the game if you're not gonna lynch teacher tomorrow.

I have in fact read your iso, at your request. You haven't contributed anything of value today that you didn't yesterday. Teacher might or might not get lynched tomorrow, but by self hammering and shortening the day you've made it so that he doesn't have to post as much, meaning we have less to work with. Since I die tonight, if you're town, then fypov, 2 confirmed townies are dead.

right, apart from everything teacher has done in reaction which is just making him look scummier and scummier

if you guys don't lynch him after that then okay fine, town can lose, nbd

[Menalque]

I'm trying to avoid talking about ongoing games, you're the one who keeps insisting on trying to bring them into conversation

if you have doubts, do what the thread on them says and contact a listmod

[teacher]

oh, well then you should make yourself look more town if you are because a 3 way lylo between 3/4 of sushi, skitt, selynee, and emps sounds horrible for town

Yet that’s what you’ve set up. So well played!

doubt it because I still think you flip scum

honestly, I'm hoping your town because if it turns out you're pulling this shit to try and avoid a lynch tomorrow rather than because it's genuine emotion then I'm just gonna lose all respect for you

But I’m not emotional. Like I don’t see why you think post scumflip behavior makes you obvtown after a pretty scummy day. Like the only reason you don’t get lynched yesterday is me lying in front of your wagon and saying I won’t go there (due to Fark). So obviously you didn’t have an obv!town day and everything after could be fake ate.

[teacher]

Also that. You basically goaded the third vote on you and placed the fourth. That’s terrible play. So enjoy realizing youbeffectively killed three town (me) for no gain.

I made one vote,

town

made three and was pretty clear that they weren't going to be steering away from the mislynch any time soon

So skit and I are both town?

[Menalque]

I wasn't getting lynched yesterday with you or without you, esp not after creeper scumclaimed

and again, if you can't see how town my entire progression was D1 then either you can't see obv!town when it's punching you in the face or you're scum and you're choosing to ignore it

[Menalque]

Also that. You basically goaded the third vote on you and placed the fourth. That’s terrible play. So enjoy realizing youbeffectively killed three town (me) for no gain.

I made one vote,

town

made three and was pretty clear that they weren't going to be steering away from the mislynch any time soon

So skit and I are both town?

yeah you can laugh now, I guess I'll save that for when you get lynched and town wins

[Menalque]

I honestly think you've been incredibly cynical here in how you're playing

[teacher]

oh, well then you should make yourself look more town if you are because a 3 way lylo between 3/4 of sushi, skitt, selynee, and emps sounds horrible for town

Yet that’s what you’ve set up. So well played!

doubt it because I still think you flip scum

honestly, I'm hoping your town because if it turns out you're pulling this shit to try and avoid a lynch tomorrow rather than because it's genuine emotion then I'm just gonna lose all respect for you

Play out me!town. Who should town lynch in that setup AND WHY?

[Menalque]

Jackass maybe it would help to scumcase me

and respond to 1102.

Jackass maybe it would help to scumcase me and respond to 1102.

this reeks of caught for the wrong reasons fyi

Enjoy the deadthread.

Well let’s see what happened between 1934 and now. Oh that’s right, 1938, where I learned a legitimate reason for town to selfhammer

You’re a tunneled jackass

who can’t come up w a reason to scumread me other than I didn’t abide by your schedule after having caught scum.

Like you’re saying people should see you as town, button the only reason you weren’t lynched yesterday (and scum was).

So yea,

enjoy seeing just how wrong you are

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Also that. You basically goaded the third vote on you and placed the fourth.

That’s terrible play. So enjoy realizing youbeffectively killed three town (me) for no gain

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oh, well then you should make yourself look more town if you are because a 3 way lylo between 3/4 of sushi, skitt, selynee, and emps sounds horrible for town

Yet that’s what you’ve set up.

So well played

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oh, well then you should make yourself look more town if you are because a 3 way lylo between 3/4 of sushi, skitt, selynee, and emps sounds horrible for town

Yet that’s what you’ve set up. So well played!

doubt it because I still think you flip scum

honestly, I'm hoping your town because if it turns out you're pulling this shit to try and avoid a lynch tomorrow rather than because it's genuine emotion then I'm just gonna lose all respect for you

But I’m not emotional

. Like I don’t see why you think post scumflip behavior makes you obvtown after a pretty scummy day. Like the only reason you don’t get lynched yesterday is me lying in front of your wagon and saying I won’t go there (due to Fark). So obviously you didn’t have an obv!town day and everything after could be fake ate.

yeah really sounds like there's no emotion in those posts at all!

[teacher]

You think I push my scum partner in your place?
You think I tell my scum partner to claim tracker after seeing mason claims and knowing I can sell a by claim as town-motivated rather than outing PRs enough to shift the wagon?
You think I ever let my scum partner not get an avi?

You can’t see obvtown either. So maybe stop mocking everybody and try to salvage some contribution.

[Menalque]

oh, well then you should make yourself look more town if you are because a 3 way lylo between 3/4 of sushi, skitt, selynee, and emps sounds horrible for town

Yet that’s what you’ve set up. So well played!

doubt it because I still think you flip scum

honestly, I'm hoping your town because if it turns out you're pulling this shit to try and avoid a lynch tomorrow rather than because it's genuine emotion then I'm just gonna lose all respect for you

Play out me!town. Who should town lynch in that setup AND WHY?

I kinda don't wanna say bc I think it's going to increase the nk odds on one of the people I'm TRing

[Menalque]

You think I push my scum partner in your place?
You think I tell my scum partner to claim tracker after seeing mason claims and knowing I can sell a by claim as town-motivated rather than outing PRs enough to shift the wagon?
You think I ever let my scum partner not get an avi?

You can’t see obvtown either. So maybe stop mocking everybody and try to salvage some contribution.

(1) yes, absolutely if you think he's going down and that it might pocket me
(2) what is a by claim?
(3) maybe, I don't think that's at all AI

[Menalque]

I don't mind engaging with you on the off chance you're town but I still think the implications you've made today and the way you handled it are fucking out of order

[Menalque]

I don't mind engaging with you on the off chance you're town but I still think the implications you've made today and the way you handled it are fucking out of order

also on the understanding that you are always the lynch tomorrow, every time

[teacher]

You are playing like a jackass (town doesn’t selfhammer) and I’m looking forward to you realizing it. That’s not emotional. I know when I’m on tilt and when I’m reasoning. I’m the latter right now. Like I actually believe you’re town from how you are playing after hammering yourself, and I regret allowing you to goad me into voting. But emotions have nothing to do with it.

Pedit: my phone always corrects vt to by

[Menalque]

no fucking shit I'm town, I wouldn't troll anyone reading this by continuing rather than just conceding

[Menalque]

also I wasn't planning on self-hammering strategically if that's what you're implying when you say I goaded you

[teacher]

I don't mind engaging with you on the off chance you're town but I still think the implications you've made today and the way you handled it are fucking out of order

We will have to agree to disagree. I can’t apologize for having my views on etiquette and sharing them. If my understanding is right, I view that comment as gross and stand by it. If it is wrong, I apologize for my misunderstanding.

[teacher]

also I wasn't planning on self-hammering strategically if that's what you're implying when you say I goaded you

No, I’m saying you goaded me into voting. No implications just my own take on what happened - I hadn’t intended to then did it when reading in a brief period to respond to your point. That is the one aspect of my own play today that I regret.

[Menalque]

You think I tell my scum partner to claim tracker after seeing mason claims and knowing I can sell a vt claim as town-motivated rather than outing PRs enough to shift the wagon?

Why do you make 910 if your pick up on the mason claims was as good as the time as you're now suggesting it was? Why were you hunting PRs so hard in the first place? Why, if you were TRing me, do you immediately backpedal onto me in 923 esp when you know I wasn't around at that point bc I'd specifically talked about when I'd be active earlier on in thread?

Also I don't know what your question means entirely.

[Menalque]

I'm trying to avoid talking about ongoing games, you're the one who keeps insisting on trying to bring them into conversation

if you have doubts, do what the thread on them says and contact a listmod

[Menalque]

you know I'm happy to engage even when people are scum

if you're town then why did you avoid engaging me at all in a way that was likely to get me TR, possibly get me to TR you, and steer clear of a possible mislynch until after I was dead at which point one major danger is eliminated from play and from engaging in the dialogue with me you may score some town points too

[teacher]

same prob goes for skitt, but I can at least see her potentially deciding to bus once creeper seemed to be going down, and having enough confidence in her scum game to try and ride this out to the win

Skitts town. Scum!her doesnt whiteknight Fark who was obviously either PR or scum. She lets PR go down. Im just pissed that I was confident enough in my PR reads elsehwere that I went to scum, because her case was good.

Emps is also towncleared by intenting creep in 773 as well as creep horrible “reaction test” (not to mention skits read)
Skit is by wagon presence, reads of emps me and sushi - too many hard commitments to be scum liking to compbus D1, and likely to better advise

Pool = mena, me, sushi, selynee

As long as you all don’t lynch sushi I’m fine w whatever order you want.

Ok, you’ve made skit your obvious second pick. Why am I wrong in these posts. Because what I’m having difficulty with is your wagon (NMSA, skit, me, Fark) being all town and you being town, but then I see these on the other side.

798 didn’t do it for me - I thought your selfmeta was icky too.

[teacher]

you know I'm happy to engage even when people are scum

if you're town then why did you avoid engaging me at all in a way that was likely to get me TR, possibly get me to TR you, and steer clear of a possible mislynch until after I was dead at which point one major danger is eliminated from play and from engaging in the dialogue with me you may score some town points too

I have no idea what this means. I engaged w you the same way I did all players.