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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:46 am

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In post 1145, popsofctown wrote:
In post 1140, Perry Pelican wrote:
In post 1131, popsofctown wrote:yeah the marquis neighborhood has the ability to make you leave your neighborhood this was revealed a couple pages ago
Would hood modifiers still apply? Like if you joined another hood do you still invest as mafia?

That's possibly strong.

Oh my law

you keep claiming scum

closed setups are a nightmare

no one will lynch it anyway

which is nice because there is nothing satisfying about catching a scum off aberrations and wrinkles in a closed setup like this

but not nice in the sense that I prefer to win all my games of mafia instead of lose them



there's no way town!Pelipper even has to ask if he keeps the modifier if he leaves the neighborhood it's totally unambiguous that the modifier stays.

(it probably doesn't survive the vanillerization associated with Marquis's neighborhood in particular, ofc though)
What? You were JUST arguing that the hood modifier and your role are separate entities. So why would the hood modifier still apply if you leave the hood? What I'm getting at is shuffling hoods has the potential to hard confirm alignments.
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:46 am

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How is this a 1v1? I think you’re both town
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:46 am

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Pops we will talk about this tonight but you definitely aren't going to like what I'm going to tell you.
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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:47 am

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Well I mean you have a factional NK so yeah

Pelipper if you had read the sample role PM in the OP that actually would have explained to you that the neighborhood characteristics are Informed and not a grant of the ability, since the one in the OP fails to grant anyone in particular an ability. So you could have avoided scumclaiming that way. For next time.


hoods are kuribo hood: it happens to be the case that everyone in this hood is ninja
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FL-pops-Pelipper: it happens to be the case that everyone in this hood investigates as mafia
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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:48 am

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In post 1152, Perry Pelican wrote:Pops we will talk about this tonight but you definitely aren't going to like what I'm going to tell you.
Ditto
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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:50 am

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In post 1150, Perry Pelican wrote:
In post 1145, popsofctown wrote:
In post 1140, Perry Pelican wrote:
In post 1131, popsofctown wrote:yeah the marquis neighborhood has the ability to make you leave your neighborhood this was revealed a couple pages ago
Would hood modifiers still apply? Like if you joined another hood do you still invest as mafia?

That's possibly strong.

Oh my law

you keep claiming scum

closed setups are a nightmare

no one will lynch it anyway

which is nice because there is nothing satisfying about catching a scum off aberrations and wrinkles in a closed setup like this

but not nice in the sense that I prefer to win all my games of mafia instead of lose them



there's no way town!Pelipper even has to ask if he keeps the modifier if he leaves the neighborhood it's totally unambiguous that the modifier stays.

(it probably doesn't survive the vanillerization associated with Marquis's neighborhood in particular, ofc though)
What? You were JUST arguing that the hood modifier and your role are separate entities. So why would the hood modifier still apply if you leave the hood? What I'm getting at is shuffling hoods has the potential to hard confirm alignments.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT A HOOD MODIFIER
IT'S MY PERSONAL MODIFIER
I'LL STILL HAVE A BAD LEFT KNEE
I'LL STILL GET WEIRD CHILLS WHEN I HEAR AN UNDERTALE SONG I REALLY LIKE
I'LL STILL BE ATTRACTED TO OTHER FURRY ANIMALS
I'LL STILL INVESTIGATE AS MAFIA

I WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO VIEW THE MESSAGE IN THE PT -INFORMING- EVERYONE THAT THE RESIDENTS INVESTIGATE AS MAFIA FOR THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL REASONS

BUT I'M GONNA ASK JJD TO WRITE IT IN HIS NOTES SINCE I'M TOO LAZY TO TAKE NOTES AND MAYBE HE CAN REMIND ME
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"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:50 am

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In post 1147, ofrhz wrote:I think pops is town. It also feels good to see someone else get lectured by her this time

Pedit: has the hood modifier already been outed?
You’re outing your scum partner.
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:51 am

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If you two are just scum together probably ought to NK me that would seem optimal
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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:52 am

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To be fair, I’m not a miller, but it is part of my role that I investigate as Mafia, so I believe being vanilla’d does in fact take that away.
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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:53 am

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In post 1142, Perry Pelican wrote:Also to anyone with Kagami related experience if you could confirm their statements feel free.
I have some, but I'm not sure what you're asking and theres a good chance my answer will be "that's too specific for me to have an opinion about."
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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:54 am

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This kind of sounds like pops is correct o.O
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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:54 am

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In post 1157, popsofctown wrote:If you two are just scum together probably ought to NK me that would seem optimal
I see why you could be annoyed by the chemistry RCE-Myself have. I assure you, that was grown over time, and we are definitely both on each other’s radars. I am actually leaning town on him, but that makes me think he could be scum, because I do see you as scummy, there have been a few things that I’ve questioned if that comes from ScumYou, which wouldn’t be me meta’ing, that’s a social analysis.
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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:54 am

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In post 1160, Kagami wrote:This kind of sounds like pops is correct o.O
Lol @this warlock attempt.

Pops is prob town.
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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:54 am

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In post 1156, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1147, ofrhz wrote:I think pops is town. It also feels good to see someone else get lectured by her this time

Pedit: has the hood modifier already been outed?
You’re outing your scum partner.
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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:54 am

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Fair, I was under the impression the modifier was that everyone investigates as mafia instead of the modifier being we're informed everyone investigates as mafia.
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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 1151, ofrhz wrote:How is this a 1v1? I think you’re both town
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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:56 am

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Where did pelican say he didn't have an individual ability that he investigates as mafia?
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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:56 am

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In post 1155, popsofctown wrote:
In post 1150, Perry Pelican wrote:
In post 1145, popsofctown wrote:
In post 1140, Perry Pelican wrote:
In post 1131, popsofctown wrote:yeah the marquis neighborhood has the ability to make you leave your neighborhood this was revealed a couple pages ago
Would hood modifiers still apply? Like if you joined another hood do you still invest as mafia?

That's possibly strong.

Oh my law

you keep claiming scum

closed setups are a nightmare

no one will lynch it anyway

which is nice because there is nothing satisfying about catching a scum off aberrations and wrinkles in a closed setup like this

but not nice in the sense that I prefer to win all my games of mafia instead of lose them



there's no way town!Pelipper even has to ask if he keeps the modifier if he leaves the neighborhood it's totally unambiguous that the modifier stays.

(it probably doesn't survive the vanillerization associated with Marquis's neighborhood in particular, ofc though)
What? You were JUST arguing that the hood modifier and your role are separate entities. So why would the hood modifier still apply if you leave the hood? What I'm getting at is shuffling hoods has the potential to hard confirm alignments.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT A HOOD MODIFIER
IT'S MY PERSONAL MODIFIER
I'LL STILL HAVE A BAD LEFT KNEE
I'LL STILL GET WEIRD CHILLS WHEN I HEAR AN UNDERTALE SONG I REALLY LIKE
I'LL STILL BE ATTRACTED TO OTHER FURRY ANIMALS
I'LL STILL INVESTIGATE AS MAFIA


I WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO VIEW THE MESSAGE IN THE PT -INFORMING- EVERYONE THAT THE RESIDENTS INVESTIGATE AS MAFIA FOR THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL REASONS

BUT I'M GONNA ASK JJD TO WRITE IT IN HIS NOTES SINCE I'M TOO LAZY TO TAKE NOTES AND MAYBE HE CAN REMIND ME
this is only the case if you aren’t vanilla’d by that Vanilla neighborhood.

How else would you leave neighborhood?

If you were referring to the reflexive vanillaizer then join them, then this is a scum slip
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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:57 am

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In post 1165, ofrhz wrote:
In post 1151, ofrhz wrote:How is this a 1v1? I think you’re both town
I think they’ve both scum slipped now, but I feel they could have both done it as town.
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:57 am

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In post 1161, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1157, popsofctown wrote:If you two are just scum together probably ought to NK me that would seem optimal
I see why you could be annoyed by the chemistry RCE-Myself have. I assure you, that was grown over time, and we are definitely both on each other’s radars. I am actually leaning town on him, but that makes me think he could be scum, because I do see you as scummy, there have been a few things that I’ve questioned if that comes from ScumYou, which wouldn’t be me meta’ing, that’s a social analysis.
I also have this thing where I townread and scumread FL at the same time.

For example, now that he's confirmed it, the fact I called him out on not being a miller and he doubled down by using our shared information to back him up was ehhh.
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Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:57 am

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Maybe I should replace out of games at the first sign of moon logic. But then I would never finish a game.
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Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:58 am

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In post 1168, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1165, ofrhz wrote:
In post 1151, ofrhz wrote:How is this a 1v1? I think you’re both town
I think they’ve both scum slipped now, but I feel they could have both done it as town.
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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:58 am

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In post 1161, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1157, popsofctown wrote:If you two are just scum together probably ought to NK me that would seem optimal
I see why you could be annoyed by the chemistry RCE-Myself have.
I would be annoyed by town chemistry with outed scum. It's less annoying if you're scum together so I weave that fantasy, even though setup spec would hint towards just 1 scum in the neighborhood
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Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:59 am

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In post 1166, Kagami wrote:Where did pelican say he didn't have an individual ability that he investigates as mafia?
I claimed miller but pops thinks i scumslipped by not telling Kuribo explicitly that the neighborhood investigates as mafia and isn't a miller hood.
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Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:59 am

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How’d you call me out on not being a miller?

I disagree with that sentiment whole heartedly.

I even commented real early how investigating as Mafia is different than being a miller.

I wasn’t lying about being a miller. I function like a miller. That’s a hard misrep.
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