Newbie 1953 | Zooborns IV | Game Over

[Dyrenz]

Or he could be town jumping on what seemed at the time to be bad!scum

[Leucosticte]

I mean, maaaaybe he could be scum took it as a free vote since it was SO easy to vote for me right then.

Why do you make it easy

[skitter30]

Leu, find somewhere else to vote

[Dyrenz]

Because I was momentarily frustrated and instead of stepping away to cool down I did something really dumb.

Micc is gonna be really mad lol.

[Plotinus]

official vote count 1.10

baby tamandua

---

Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Dyrenz

(3): Micc, Farren, Leucosticte

Farren

(2): skitter30, Mr Oobsy

Chemist1422

(2): NorwegianboyEE, Jamelia

NorwegianboyEE

(2): Chemist1422, Dyrenz

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-09-04 23:00:00).

Mod notes:

[/area]

[Dyrenz]

I should've repped out as soon as I saw Micc. Told myself I would give it a shot, maybe this time it will be different. Clearly not, he just does not approve of my play style at all. He's why I quit my first attempt at Mafia years ago. He would not let up no matter how badly I tried to help town and prove my innocence and it led to a mislynch. Don't even know how the game ended because it left me so frustrated I quit the site.

[Micc]

UNVOTE:

Please don’t be hard on yourself. Being pushed is part of the game and it happens to everyone. Emotionally, it can be really hard to deal with. I wish I had better advice to give besides that other than extreme cases it’s not personal and there are no hard feelings.

I’m not mad, just disappointed that the one good read I had looks to have been wrong. Just gotta move on.

[Micc]

Also, I’ll respond to your posts regarding the chemist read if you confirm you want me to, but otherwise I’m going to drop it considering your claim makes my read on you invalid.

[Leucosticte]

I should've repped out as soon as I saw Micc. Told myself I would give it a shot, maybe this time it will be different. Clearly not, he just does not approve of my play style at all. He's why I quit my first attempt at Mafia years ago. He would not let up no matter how badly I tried to help town and prove my innocence and it led to a mislynch. Don't even know how the game ended because it left me so frustrated I quit the site.

Mafia's an intense game, and town usually is slow to catch on to what's going on, and trusting of the wrong people and skeptical of the good people. It's kinda like the mate market that way, in that it's based largely on feelings and manipulation rather than logic. Obviously that makes it frustrating for those who don't thrive in those kinds of conditions.

[Micc]

VOTE: Leocosticte

His Chemist and Dyrenz votes are both yikes.

[Leucosticte]

VOTE: Leocosticte

His Chemist and Dyrenz votes are both yikes.

Don't fall for the poor me routine.. a dude with like 80 games under his belt got snowed by a first-time player in wlf-068 who used that..

[Dyrenz]

You're STILL convinced I'm scum Leuco? Methinks you could be rolecop and you're just mad I outed you

VOTE: Leucosticte

[skitter30]

Scum dont claim pr like that

Even if you think he's scum he has to prove himself, and if he doesn't, we'll lynch him later

We're not lynching him today

Now find somewhere else to vote, or i will vote you

[Leucosticte]

Tell me some more about the Friendly Neighbor, since I've never played a game that had that. The Mafia Wiki says, "Friendly Neighbor is nearly impossible to frame as a liar. If you are scum and receive a Friendly Neighbor greeting, you probably are not served by lying and saying you didn't get it."

How easy is it to fakeclaim, though? I mean, I guess if it's nearly impossible to frame, then a fake claim, "Hey, I sent a message but he's falsely claiming he didn't get it" wouldn't be plausible, because scum wouldn't do that. Or would they?

[Chemist1422]

Tell me some more about the Friendly Neighbor, since I've never played a game that had that. The Mafia Wiki says, "Friendly Neighbor is nearly impossible to frame as a liar. If you are scum and receive a Friendly Neighbor greeting, you probably are not served by lying and saying you didn't get it."

How easy is it to fakeclaim, though? I mean, I guess if it's nearly impossible to frame, then a fake claim, "Hey, I sent a message but he's falsely claiming he didn't get it" wouldn't be plausible, because scum wouldn't do that. Or would they?

it’s possible but wouldn’t it just be CCed?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Dyrenz is fake claiming then i'm pretty sure we would hear it from the real PR's. I believe his claim for now. If he is honest then he will probably get murdered on night 1 anyway so no point in wasting a lynch on him.

[skitter30]

if he's lying:

a) someone will cc
b) nobody will be able to verify his claim

so basically, we'll figure it out if he's lying pretty quick

[Leucosticte]

All right, well, I have to think about whom I want to switch my vote to. I assume no one's going to be dropping the hammer on Dyrenz.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You really should have analyzed the situation better Leucosticte. Wanting to lynch Dyrenz for claiming a PR is a very scummy mindset. I'll assume you just didn't think things through, but it was definitely a suspicious reaction to have.

[skitter30]

just unvote ty

[Jamelia]

I should've repped out as soon as I saw Micc. Told myself I would give it a shot, maybe this time it will be different. Clearly not, he just does not approve of my play style at all. He's why I quit my first attempt at Mafia years ago. He would not let up no matter how badly I tried to help town and prove my innocence and it led to a mislynch. Don't even know how the game ended because it left me so frustrated I quit the site.

Or, you can just play and have fun.

[Jamelia]

Scum dont claim pr like that

Even if you think he's scum he has to prove himself, and if he doesn't, we'll lynch him later

We're not lynching him today

Now find somewhere else to vote, or i will vote you

I don’t know if this is how you normally talk, but is there a need to be this harsh? I think it’s unnecessary to be this rude when multiple people are also trying to learn the meta and figure out everything too.

[skitter30]

Not trying to be harsh or rude, apologies if i came off that way.

Is there anything u want me to elaborate upon?

[Jamelia]

Not trying to be harsh or rude, apologies if i came off that way.

Is there anything u want me to elaborate upon?

I understood why the vote needs to be off Dyrenz at the moment since he’s the only PR to claim (still don’t understand why they did that). So right now, there’s really nothing for me to have explained except where we think the direction should go at this point.

We have multiple targets but I’d like it consolidated so we can all come to some sort of agreement that we like and helps us moving forward the next days or so.

[NorwegianboyEE]

We have multiple targets but I’d like it consolidated so we can all come to some sort of agreement that we like and helps us moving forward the next days or so.

Amen to that.
I would definitely like for everyone to consider all alternatives before moving forward.