Detective Penguin & City of Fogport [Game Over]

[Flavor Leaf]

No real order within tiers

Ofhrz
Kagami
Fish Monger
Judge Joseph Dredd
Gorkington
Marquis
popsofctown
kuribo
Chandra Nalaar

Vecna
Pine
PenguinPower
Croat

Day 1 Lynch
Bingle

Perry Pelican

[Bingle]

You made the case on him, and look how Bingle responded.

I’m willing to lynch anyone who isn’t a townread, a gamestate read, or self resolving tonight over people who are.

Shocker.

[Flavor Leaf]

Honestly, I’m probably shooting Bingle no matter what tonight.

Unless you think me, marquis, and Vecna are all lying, I can’t be vigged. It’s an objectively terrible use of a confirmable role.

I don’t think you should telegraph who you’re shooting if we lynch perry, but even if you think I’m scum you shouldn’t shoot me because I can’t be shot and you’ll only succeed in being a caffeine addicted paranoid vanilla owner.

Naive of you to assume that was my actual thought process.

[Flavor Leaf]

You made the case on him, and look how Bingle responded.

I’m willing to lynch anyone who isn’t a townread, a gamestate read, or self resolving tonight over people who are.

Shocker.

If Pelican is a town read, then you’re just likely scum with him, because there’s zero reason you should be town reading him here.

Neutral sure, but there’s never a reason to town read him here from your shoes as town.

[Flavor Leaf]

No real order within tiers

Ofhrz
Kagami
Fish Monger
Judge Joseph Dredd
Gorkington
Marquis
popsofctown
kuribo
Chandra Nalaar

Vecna
Pine
PenguinPower
Croat

Day 1 Lynch
Bingle

Perry Pelican

I half expect 1 scum in each tier if there isn’t 2 scum in Bingle/D1

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m typically a strong Vig shot, that of which Pelican already knows, so I imagine scum team is trying hard to not let Pelican be lynched because then I’m likely taking out 2 scum, and scum are forced to kill me, which sucks if there is a protective.

[Bingle]

He’s self resolving, not a town read. In fact, he’s explicitly a scumread. I just don’t want to lynch self resolving slots, because that’s how you lose games of mafia.

[Kagami]

Can you just shoot Pine?

He about in the same place on my list, maybe even a bit higher, but I just can't ever see being sad about that whichever way he flips.

[Flavor Leaf]

Pelican staying they’re gonna kill me at night is literally just the scum play to make.

And then he can claim my death, and say scum targeted whoever I’d target if I don’t target Pelican, which I don’t want to, that’s a waste.

He’s already caught scum. Lynch him.

If they have a doctor, it’s just going to be on him too. Or a JK.

[Flavor Leaf]

He’s self resolving, not a town read. In fact, he’s explicitly a scumread. I just don’t want to lynch self resolving slots, because that’s how you lose games of mafia.

Disagree hard.

This Vig/Vig is absolutely not self resolving here, that’s a way to get ScumPelican town cleared. I’d abuse that mindset so hard if i were scum.

[Bingle]

Discounting claims and associations:

Bingle

DOL
Gork
Vecna

Kuribo
FL
Marquis

Kags
FM
Chandra
Ofrhz
Pine
PP

Croag
Jjd
Pops

Pelipper

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

The argument you have is that I'm not using my role for towncred, which assumes that THIS IS WHAT I WOULD DO AS TOWN.

No. The way I see it this is what you would do as SCUM trying to appear Town. Town you does not care to appear town. There's a big difference between what one would do to appear town and what one would if they were actually town. BIG difference.

[Flavor Leaf]

Literally all that happens from letting Pelican live is Obvtown FL dies, you have to lynch Pelican anyways, and we mislynch a townie likely.

[Flavor Leaf]

Discounting claims and associations:

Bingle

DOL
Gork
Vecna

Kuribo
FL
Marquis

Kags
FM
Chandra
Ofrhz
Pine
PP

Croag
Jjd
Pops

Pelipper

D1 lynch is in a disgustingly high spot.
Vecna is in the spot you’re trying to high pocket because he’s a pair with you essentially.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m 3 for 3 on catching scumJJD, and he would be trying a lot harder to make it so it isn’t 4 for 4 if he were scum.

[Chandra Nalaar]

DOL

/how/

[Flavor Leaf]

Chandra, if I ever start to scum read you again, please just quote that last post of yours.

[Day One Wagon]

Maybe Bingle remembers my only scum game on this site and knows that I'd be all over Pelli, if he was my scumbuddy

[Flavor Leaf]

Maybe Bingle remembers my only scum game on this site and knows that I'd be all over Pelli, if he was my scumbuddy

Maybe, but doubt it.

It’s just damage control.

He could be setting you up associatively if he goes down.

I could just scum read you because your stance on Pelican is disgusting

[Croag]

Lmaoooooo someone please explain the scum read on me right now

U bantering

[Pine]

Wait, clarify?

pops mechanics trapped Perry into saying the miller part of their role PM was in the neighborhood bit.

pops and FL both clarified it was both in the neighborhood bit and the abilities bit.

Perry claimed vig.

FL counterclaimed vig.

Perry is almost certainly scum based on the whole given direct instructions to look at his Role PM he didn't describe a miller role PM.

Perry has since acknowledged that the miller bit comes up in both places, meaning JJD is just high when he attributes this to mod fuckery because townPerry wouldn't change his story unless he derpread in the first place.

Given that Perry claimed a confirmable role, I want to give him a night phase to, you know, confirm his role. As you do.

Got it

Pelican staying they’re gonna kill me at night is literally just the scum play to make.

And then he can claim my death, and say scum targeted whoever I’d target if I don’t target Pelican, which I don’t want to, that’s a waste.

He’s already caught scum. Lynch him.

If they have a doctor, it’s just going to be on him too. Or a JK.

Boon's right. It's not self-resolving, there are lots of ways to stop a known vig.

VOTE: Perry Pelican

[Pine]

Lmaoooooo someone please explain the scum read on me right now

U bantering

Umm, for starters, this was a scummy post. Dunno about anything else.

[Croag]

Lmaoooooo someone please explain the scum read on me right now

U bantering

Umm, for starters, this was a scummy post. Dunno about anything else.

[Croag]

Good detective work there /s

[Day One Wagon]

Maybe Bingle remembers my only scum game on this site and knows that I'd be all over Pelli, if he was my scumbuddy

Maybe, but doubt it.

It’s just damage control.

He could be setting you up associatively if he goes down.

I could just scum read you because your stance on Pelican is disgusting

That was a joke - he didn't really paid attention there and let other hydra head do things

I'm well aware that your scumread on me is based solely on my stance and I'm hoping you're better than just shooting me for this