In post 618, Dunnstral wrote:I was under the impression that there was only one crown and we can't crown anybody else until pops dies and drops it
Am I wrong?
You are. We can crown every night.
@Egduf you know from our previous game already that I am a very suspicious person and prefer not to take anything at face value. Hectic's claim albeit provable was no exception. Yet unlike RCE's one, it was easier to prove and more believable since it involved another player. So me being doubtful but still backing off is something normal.
you realized scumpops gets to make up whatever role she wants
and townpops has to truthfully tell the mafia what my role is because I don't play lolclaim style town
help me understand how the flowchart looks good to you.
Ye but
Scumpops making the claim today doesn't give the opportunity of scumpops tailoring a more believable claim tomorrow if given the chance.
And as I said for townpops telling the mafia her role is not that big of a deal given that if the mafia want and have the means to they will roleblock/kill her anyway.
I know it sounds like some crazy rolefish but UNDERSTAND IT FROM MY POV
The more I talk with you on that topic the more paranoid I will become so I would like to hear the other players on it as well.
You just said that you wouldn't lynch RCE because if they're town they're a bodyguard. Same thing from me - I'm not townreading them, no, but there is 2 scum left alive so that doesn't really impede a poe I feel
Egduf looks townier than correspondence to me and I think gameplay has a point that Egduf voting herself with nobody else is town indicative
There isn't really anybody I'd be ok with lynching other than correspondence and that's why I'm voting them right now - other scum can be found through mechanics/roles
I'm also of the belief that pops should claim today and that town benefits from having all information out, even if it doesn't necessarily benefit you individually
Gameplay, that’s true but I don’t see why you being a naturally suspicious player excuses you from scummy behaviour, and it’s not like you couldn’t have backed off of the vote at that time.
I have mixed feelings about Pops claiming the exact crown power. Even if the mafia don’t have have a roleblocker/stopper it could still give them information to play around.
On the other hand, not claiming seems like a really easy way for scum to get out of having to claim anything potentially confirmable about the crown, and gives town less information about the abilities they are voting to crown people with.
I could probably be persuaded either way.
Ok so
Since everybody has posted now and nobody has claimed a protective so that makes RCE's claim more believable because this setup does need a protective of some sort(unless the crown provides protection on its own which pops hasn't confirmed).
And if we are doing PoE
Hectic, rce, me town
Pops likely town
Bottom 3 would be corresp, dunn, egduf
And I do like egduf but the push is on me is eh
Corresp is eh
Dunn is ok
you realized scumpops gets to make up whatever role she wants
and townpops has to truthfully tell the mafia what my role is because I don't play lolclaim style town
help me understand how the flowchart looks good to you.
Ye but
Scumpops making the claim today doesn't give the opportunity of scumpops tailoring a more believable claim tomorrow if given the chance.
And as I said for townpops telling the mafia her role is not that big of a deal given that if the mafia want and have the means to they will roleblock/kill her anyway.
I know it sounds like some crazy rolefish but UNDERSTAND IT FROM MY POV
The more I talk with you on that topic the more paranoid I will become so I would like to hear the other players on it as well.
What if I joined a large normal phase with you.
And your first post you RVS voted Hectic.
Then I post "gameplay, claim. making you claim today doesn't give scumGameplay the opportunity to tailor a more believable claim in massclaim if given the chance. And you may be telling the mafia your role but it is not that big a deal given that if the mafia want and have the means to they will roleblock/kill you anyway.
I know it sounds like some crazy rolefish but UNDERSTAND IT FROM MY POV??"
How would that situation be different from right now.
Yet that's widely accepted to be stupid play.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
In post 629, Egduf wrote:Gameplay, that’s true but I don’t see why you being a naturally suspicious player excuses you from scummy behaviour, and it’s not like you couldn’t have backed off of the vote at that time.
I mean I backed off the vote when I logged after it happened?
hey gameplay why don't I just specifically claim whether the power is better or worse as a roleblock target than the one that RCE has claimed
like I could give you just the scumsided elements of this that I guess you're excited about and not the boring other ones.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
I'm not, but I'm trying to demonstrate how stupid you're acting
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
I can promise to crumb my role during D2. That's the only thing resembling a substantive point you've prevented. I'll be stuck claiming what I crumbed.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
Sorry I am frustrated. You used the word rolefish to describe your own behavior so I know you already know it's incorrect play. It's just selfish "I wanna knooooow" play.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
I agree with pops here, I don't think she should claim. Pops is no way the 100% kill for mafia tonight, town!pop could easily be alive tomorrow if RC is scum or scum target me anyway and kill town!RC. And we don't want to give scum the opportunity to play around any ability she might have.
I don't know whether I am going to die night 2. Why does that matter?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
In post 646, Hectic wrote:I agree with pops here, I don't think she should claim. Pops is no way the 100% kill for mafia tonight, town!pop could easily be alive tomorrow if RC is scum or scum target me anyway and kill town!RC. And we don't want to give scum the opportunity to play around any ability she might have.
So scum RCE kills the person he's supposed to bodyguard and then what does he do?
I mean I said it resembles rolefishing but I know it's not.
And it's not a "I wanna know play" it's a "I'm not taking any chances with popscum" play and I explained why.
