Micro 887: the coaLITion [game over]

[Skygazer]

VC 1.04 Coalitions: Alchemist21 (5): Alchemist21, EspressoPatronum, Gamma Emerald, NC 39, RC most awesomest Hectic (3): EspressoPatronum, Hectic, Spangled EspressoPatronum (3): EspressoPatronum, Gamma Emerald, Spangled RC most awesomest (2): RC most awesomest, Spangled NC 39 (2): NC 39, RC most awesomest Gamma Emerald (2): Gamma Emerald, Spangled Clemency (0): Lil Uzi Vert (0): Spangled (0): Lynch: Lil Uzi Vert (2): Hectic, Gamma Emerald Not Voting (7): RC most awesomest, EspressoPatronum, NC 39, Clemency, Lil Uzi Vert, Spangled, Alchemist21 With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority. Day one ends in (expired on 2019-09-08 18:00:00).

[Gamma Emerald]

what's a UTR? ultra townread?

Under the radar
Hrmmmm

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay no I got something twisted

[Alchemist21]

Universal Townread

[Gamma Emerald]

I know UTR as Under The Radar, like what

[EspressoPatronum]

I'm liking Hectic's content and reads, but the difference in his playstyle is really nagging at me. It's almost like he's too good to be true now that he's playing normally, and I'm seeing that as a possible scum tactic.

@anyone else who has played with him, what are your thoughts on his behaviour? Do you think the change in his posting style is AI? Why/why not?

[EspressoPatronum]

@Alchemist, you haven't updated your coalition in a while. Is it still reflective of your current stance?

If yes, can you tell me a bit more about your NC and RCMA reads?

[Alchemist21]

If I did change it I would just take out NC and Gamma. I’d rather wait until having names to replace them with before taking them out though.

RC reads was talked about earlier and it’s based on NSG actually posting.

[Spangled]

what's a UTR? ultra townread?

A UTR is a universal townread.

[Spangled]

@Alchemist, you haven't updated your coalition in a while. Is it still reflective of your current stance?

If yes, can you tell me a bit more about your NC and RCMA reads?

I'm liking Hectic's content and reads, but the difference in his playstyle is really nagging at me. It's almost like he's too good to be true now that he's playing normally, and I'm seeing that as a possible scum tactic.

@anyone else who has played with him, what are your thoughts on his behaviour? Do you think the change in his posting style is AI? Why/why not?

He has played every game differently, as far as I’m aware, from my occasional readings of newbie games, each with a different gimmick. It is true that he lacks a gimmick this time... but I don’t know if he’s been scum before or anything about that so...

[Spangled]

If I did change it I would just take out NC and Gamma. I’d rather wait until having names to replace them with before taking them out though.

RC reads was talked about earlier and it’s based on NSG actually posting.

Whoops, ignore that quote up the top.

If I did change it I would just take out NC and Gamma. I’d rather wait until having names to replace them with before taking them out though.

RC reads was talked about earlier and it’s based on NSG actually posting.

Why would you take out NC and Gamma? Is it just the lack of a townread, or is there a more substantial reason?

[Spangled]

If I did change it I would just take out NC and Gamma. I’d rather wait until having names to replace them with before taking them out though.

RC reads was talked about earlier and it’s based on NSG actually posting.

Whoops, ignore that quote up the top.

If I did change it I would just take out NC and Gamma. I’d rather wait until having names to replace them with before taking them out though.

RC reads was talked about earlier and it’s based on NSG actually posting.

Why would you take out NC and Gamma? Is it just the lack of a townread, or is there a more substantial reason?

Oh wow I did it again

[Alchemist21]

Why would you take out NC and Gamma? Is it just the lack of a townread, or is there a more substantial reason?

Just the lack of a Townread.

[EspressoPatronum]

[...]
RC reads was talked about earlier and it’s based on NSG actually posting.

I was hoping you'd have a bit more to substantiate the read at this point, as scum!nsg could very easily post more. What's your read on the RC head*?

*Note - I find it hard to read hydras. Is it better practice to split the read by head and consolidate later, or approach the read in a holistic manner from the outset?

[EspressoPatronum]

HEAL: Hectic[/quote]
I still have some meta reservations about him, but I like his content. On a brief iso skim:
+ he was willing to retract his RVS coalition vote
+ he's asking about reads and furthering discussion
+ he's being proactive with providing information
+ his reads seem to develop naturally
+ I agree with his reads

- he hasn't changed on his townread of me. Slight chance of this being an attempt at buddying.
- the meta/posting change, as discussed above

Overall, I'm happy with the +'s and think the -'s are probably just me being paranoid.

[EspressoPatronum]

HEAL: Hectic
I still have some meta reservations about him, but I like his content. On a brief iso skim:
+ he was willing to retract his RVS coalition vote
+ he's asking about reads and furthering discussion
+ he's being proactive with providing information
+ his reads seem to develop naturally
+ I agree with his reads

- he hasn't changed on his townread of me. Slight chance of this being an attempt at buddying.
- the meta/posting change, as discussed above

Overall, I'm happy with the +'s and think the -'s are probably just me being paranoid.

EBWOP. I'll get the heal tag right one of these days XD

[Alchemist21]

[...]
RC reads was talked about earlier and it’s based on NSG actually posting.

I was hoping you'd have a bit more to substantiate the read at this point, as scum!nsg could very easily post more. What's your read on the RC head*?

*Note - I find it hard to read hydras. Is it better practice to split the read by head and consolidate later, or approach the read in a holistic manner from the outset?

12 seemed like a typical TownRC post to me but not definitely.

Most people go by reading individual heads if they knows one of the heads well.

[NC 39]

If I wanted to buddy up to RC I would be clamoring to sheep him.

So your defense is basically, "I'm not being obvious scum, therefore I'm not scum." Also, RC hasn't really given out any reads so you could even sheep him if you wanted to.

[NC 39]

If I did change it I would just take out NC

y?

[Gamma Emerald]

Alch explained that later

[RC most awesomest]

for my part i'm just going to treat EP like a nonparticipant in the game and hope that we win via coalition not including them regardless of their alignment.

[RC most awesomest]

I promise if it fails I won’t immediately point fingers at your slot because I know how you feel about people lynching you just based on your reputation as a strong scum player.

it's not about my feelings, it's about the fact that it's objectively wrong to do so

the only way that feelings come into play is how everyone ~feels~ about the prospect of losing to me

it's not some kind of personal fucking favor to me to treat me like an actual player in a game of mafia

[RC most awesomest]

HURT: spangled

removing from our heal list, will discuss it with nsg later.

[Alchemist21]

Fine.

HURT: NC 39, Gamma Emerald

[RC most awesomest]

this game is the summation of everything I dislike about mafia and it doesn't help that the most universally healed slot is my top scumread.