Detective Penguin & City of Fogport [Game Over]

[popsofctown]

her posts come off townie and I think scum!Chandra pretends to townread here in this kind of day2

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

@Pops: Did you get the FN message from Marquis?

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

I'm going to say this just in case the thread is locked before I come back:

Me neither.

As you guys probably should have guessed, we're cops of random sanities.

Three of us acted, and thus became caffeinated. Croag neglected to act because she's too cool to submit investigations.

Unfortunately, absolutely none of our investigations so far will ever be useful. Penguin investigated pops for heaven knows what reason, and I investigated Fish, who was killed. Both of those investigation came back Town, so PP and I are naive / insane.

Ceph claims to have investigated Gork and gotten guilty. We don't know if he's telling the truth and it doesn't matter. Ceph and Croag are paranoid/sane.

That is great!

3 in your hood + Marquis acted (according to Vecna) + Vecna himself is caffeinated from the start + Vig = 6 not 4.

We can definitely assume Chandra lied, but that still makes it 5 players on caffeine and not 4!

[Day One Wagon]

I'm going to say this just in case the thread is locked before I come back:

Me neither.

As you guys probably should have guessed, we're cops of random sanities.

Three of us acted, and thus became caffeinated. Croag neglected to act because she's too cool to submit investigations.

Unfortunately, absolutely none of our investigations so far will ever be useful. Penguin investigated pops for heaven knows what reason, and I investigated Fish, who was killed. Both of those investigation came back Town, so PP and I are naive / insane.

Ceph claims to have investigated Gork and gotten guilty. We don't know if he's telling the truth and it doesn't matter. Ceph and Croag are paranoid/sane.

That is great!

3 in your hood + Marquis acted (according to Vecna) + Vecna himself is caffeinated from the start + Vig = 6 not 4.

We can definitely assume Chandra lied, but that still makes it 5 players on caffeine and not 4!

Vig isn't confirmed

[Vecna]

I’m back on page 5, but I skimmed 15 and 16 because of Pops’ righteous annoyance at massclaim

I’ll dial in on Fishmonger tonight. This would be the third three-man Neighborhood I’ve been in within three months where the scum in it was nailed D1, but I need to read and can’t yet. 1-3 hours, depends on how the baby goes down

I was on Fish Monger D1 too, Vecna. I wasn’t certain of it until we discussed it in more detail in the PT.

Regardless, I’m not looking for “credit,” kuribo did the heavy lifting. I mostly said “yeah that makes sense I’ll back you.” My position is that a 2:1 Ninja neighborhood is fucking insane, and you’re smart enough to know it.

Now. You people are saying I’m suspicious for not engaging or doing much of anything? Fine. You’ve got me pissed, and I’m righteously active now.

Answer my questions so I can get up to speed on claims.

You were directly stating people were fuckers because of it and the double ninja thing. ergo, claiming people are stupid for disregarding those two things.

We have no idea if ninja is even of relevance in this setup. Having two scum in that hood, potentially with other stuff tacked on is entirely feasible. Its definately no more unreasonable than having two scum in any of the other hoods we know stuff about.

But go ahead, be active and do stuff. but my vote suddenly feels a lot better after seeing this response.

[Vecna]

Also, worth noting - Fish flipped Ninja Watcher. Maybe you have a role, Pine, that cares about Ninjas, or maybe kuribo did, but other than that, we don't seem to have an excess of town watchers or trackers, yeah?

wtf, how do you know this?

[Vecna]

I drew an diagram of the gamestate, a gravestone means that player is dead, an upside down cross means they are scummy and a cross with a halo means they are towny.

I drew it like an hour ago so i had to cross out Chandra's cross and redraw.

This picture should be incredibly helpful to everyone in solving the game.

I dedicate it to Pine.

Spoiler: Diagram

that shit is awesome

[Vecna]

I thought you were against someone infiltrating your masonry.

I am against a rando infiltrating our hood. I am 100% for a town-by-having-vigged scum player joining us.

If we get two people who join us, then it's a 1v1.

Also, there's a decent chance that FL is the vig, in which case he joins us and the scum can't kill him tonight. (I checked with FG when this occurred to me, the joining of our neighborhood would apply before the scumkill.)

dude, noone should join us. not worth pyshing the caffeine clock. were already fine on the lynch vs nk clock

[Vecna]

And hilariously, what might have been a really silly mistake by one of us could work out quite well depending on ceph's flip.

this post feels really weird and fishy. unless i missed something.

[Vecna]

Me neither.

As you guys probably should have guessed, we're cops of random sanities.

Three of us acted, and thus became caffeinated. Croag neglected to act because she's too cool to submit investigations.

Unfortunately, absolutely none of our investigations so far will ever be useful. Penguin investigated pops for heaven knows what reason, and I investigated Fish, who was killed. Both of those investigation came back Town, so PP and I are naive / insane.

Ceph claims to have investigated Gork and gotten guilty. We don't know if he's telling the truth and it doesn't matter. Ceph and Croag are paranoid/sane.

this was really stupid to out

[Vecna]

I should say, cops of unknown sanity. Like the doc hood, we know there's one of each.

Wait but wtf?

How do you know eachothers results? you dont have bloody daytalk.

[Vecna]

The neighborhood is locked at night, how did Ceph tell you he got guilty unless you have a scum PT with him

The joke is funnier now that I have explained it.

Also just curious is there anything on the planet earth that would influence your scumread of me Bingle?

I think you've called me scum twice for each alignment indicative post I've made.

ugh, catching up after the fact is such a bore. let me have some of that spotlight already.

[Vecna]

Why would you bother assigning a letter to Vecna, Marquis, and Bingle

tundundun

[Vecna]

well that sure was interesting. stuff happened. a lot of stuff.

[Vecna]

also, I want to be the o e to hammer chandra.

Seeing how i semi caught his ass in pretty much his/my first post, that seems only just

[Kagami]

We can definitely assume Chandra lied, but that still makes it 5 players on caffeine and not 4!

He could have lied in some capacity, but I doubt it. I would bet my left pigtail that Ceph did act and probably did get guilty on gork/chennis.

If he completely made up a result, he could have gotten trapped late game as it gets revealed exactly what sanity he is. He probably also expected to be a useless sanity (paranoid) for balance reasons, so I doubt he cares about truthfully telling telling us his result.

And he certainly didn't holster, as then he'd potentially be caught in the lie of having acted due to the caffeine count, when there absolutely no reason not to.

The Marquis hood is just full of lying liars.

[chennisden]

Me neither.

As you guys probably should have guessed, we're cops of random sanities.

Three of us acted, and thus became caffeinated. Croag neglected to act because she's too cool to submit investigations.

Unfortunately, absolutely none of our investigations so far will ever be useful. Penguin investigated pops for heaven knows what reason, and I investigated Fish, who was killed. Both of those investigation came back Town, so PP and I are naive / insane.

Ceph claims to have investigated Gork and gotten guilty. We don't know if he's telling the truth and it doesn't matter. Ceph and Croag are paranoid/sane.

this was really stupid to out

No it wasn't because Chandra , who is basically fucking guiltied scum, already knows this

[chennisden]

So this is a 1v1 between vecna/marquis & kagami now

Nice

[Kagami]

Umm, no?

Chennis, mafia isn't about lynching all liars, or calling everything you don't understand "scummy," as seems to be your approach so far.

It's about diving the intent behind other players' actions, which in a closed, role-heavy setup can often mean not being entirely truthful, while doing so with clear pro-town purpose.

[Bingle]

dude, noone should join us. not worth pyshing the caffeine clock. were already fine on the lynch vs nk clock

The vig who acted yesterday is by definition already caffeinated.

[Bingle]

@Pops: Did you get the FN message from Marquis?

Don’t answer this, but JJD should definitely be made to explain himself tomorrow.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

He could have lied in some capacity, but I doubt it. I would bet my left pigtail that Ceph did act and probably did get guilty on gork/chennis.

The more you talk the less I like you. Check the setup. The game is single ball. It's Town vs Mafia. Ceph is Mafia, so how the hell does she act and get a guilty?

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

@Pops: Did you get the FN message from Marquis?

Don’t answer this, but JJD should definitely be made to explain himself tomorrow.

Why tomorrow? Why not bloody now?? I ACTED LAST NIGHT. I TARGETED SOMEONE (WHO DIDN'T DIE). That makes it SEVEN caffeinated slots, when the mod said only FOUR. I am one (confirmed to myself, and should be confirmed to you now because there's no bloddy reason for me to fake this here and now when we already have a surplus of claims that exceeds the number of actual living caffeinated players). I trust Kagami's narrative (not Kagami herself, but unless they're all scum she didn't just make that one up).

So, at least 2 Cops are caffeinated, and so am I. Then you add Vecna, Marquis and a potential Vig and you get six, and that's ASSUMING CHANDRA LIED AND DIDN'T ACT (or just shot the Parity Cop).

ANYWAY you slice it, either Vecna or Marquis are lying. Vecna could have invented the Caffeinated thing to cover for a p who was acting on N1. Marquis could have been framing pops (with her denying she received a PM it creates a 1v1).

I can try to theorize on the Fish kill being due to bomb/PGO kuribo who fake claimed Parity Cop (PGO makes more sense since they'd want to draw the kill), but I still can;t see Vecna already caffeinated and Marquis acted as both being true statements.

Now can you stop acting like yours is the only way to play the game?? Please and thank you.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

I will repeat:

Chandra claims to have acted (most likely lying)
Kagami claims to have acted
PP claims to have acted
JJD claims to have acted
Vecna claims to be already caffeinated from the start
Marquis was hinted (by Vecna) to have acted
"unknown Vig" may or may nor have acted

That's SEVEN bloody caffeinated slots. The Mod says only 4.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

And THIS was the main reason behind me pushing my poll. I wanted people to be committed to a stance before I revealed I was caffeinated. Scum don't want to lynch an already caffeinated player, so they would have had to find a way to change their minds about it. Town on the other hand would actually rather lynch me over an uncaffeinated slot, so they'd stick to it.

It follows that anyone who said yes and then tried to defend me is l,ore sus than someone who stayed committed. It also means someone who said No then decided to vote me after I revealed my status is likely town, because why the hell would scum want to lynch a caffeinated slot when they had already been publicly against it?