Newbie 1953 | Zooborns IV | Game Over

[Chemist1422]

Not counterclaiming but I don't really understand Oobsy's logic on Micc and Farren being town

[Mr Oobsy]

Mafia

didn't vote me because they knew I was

Tracker

, correctly predicting

Micc

and

Farren

would vote me, hoping to exploit this fact to make themselves look less suspicious than

Micc

and

Farren

. That's the logic.

[skitter30]

I still think micc is scummy tho

[Mr Oobsy]

• Mr Oobsy
  
  
• skitter30
  
  
• Leucosticte1
  
  
• Farren
  
  
• Micc
  
  
• Chemist1422
  
  
• Jamelia

[Plotinus]

official vote count 2.01

baby okapi being born

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Lynching

With 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.

Jamelia

(1): Mr Oobsy

Not Voting

(6): Farren, Chemist1422, Jamelia, Leucosticte, Micc, skitter30

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-09-11 08:15:00).

Mod notes:

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[Plotinus]

Leucosticte² has been prodded. They have (expired on 2019-09-07 14:08:00) to post before I start looking for a replacement.

edit: added a little extra time to account for the part of the countdown that will fall on Saturday. I thought today was Thursday when I initially wrote the countdown, but i was wrong.

[Farren]

Mafia

didn't vote me because they knew I was

Tracker

, correctly predicting

Micc

and

Farren

would vote me, hoping to exploit this fact to make themselves look less suspicious than

Micc

and

Farren

. That's the logic.

I would be shocked if the Mafia picked up on your breadcrumbs. I base this on the fact that you didn't get shot last night. Tracker is more dangerous than Friendly Neighbor, and mislynching PRs is tough unless you can get people to speedhammer without going through proper protocols OR are willing to counterclaim. Given that we've already been burned once by the speedhammer, seeing it happen again isn't very likely. Counterclaim means a guaranteed dead scum by D3 no matter what the circumstances.

I can buy that scum would take a wait-and-see approach to today. I don't think they could specifically predict Micc's vote and mine, but I'm sure they could predict that at least *some* people would hop on you sooner rather than later.

[Farren]

town players who

ideally are following a consistent and defined thought process

to lead them to their votes.

Thank you, I needed that laugh.

I think I do need to read some of your past games after all. Especially some of your newbie games. I think this is not a scummy mindset, but it'd be nice to see if this sort of thinking shows up in your other Town games.

There's less of an incentive for town to do this, generally only for strong 1v1 battles which wasn't the case here.

This is indicative of the same mindset, I think. Yeah, there's no incentive for Town to act snarky in most cases. But it's one of those that, incentive or not, happens on a regular basis.

[Farren]

VOTE: Leucosticte

Let's see if we can shake off some of that laziness.

[Plotinus]

Jamelia¹ has been prodded. He has (expired on 2019-09-07 19:00:00) to post before I start looking for a replacement because the timer runs slower on weekends.

[Jamelia]

I don’t counter claim Oobsy but I’m not mafia. So I don’t really know what to say/do to prove that.

[Farren]

I don’t counter claim Oobsy but I’m not mafia. So I don’t really know what to say/do to prove that.

When in doubt, hunt for scum.

Take a look at everyone. Who looks good? Who looks suspicious? What's changed since the last time you looked?

[skitter30]

vla for a couple of days

[Farren]

Let's start seeing some action, people. Votes. Questions. Opinions and responses. Something. Anything. We don't need a hammer yet, but we do need to at least start looking for nails.

Apathetic towns lose games.

[Micc]

VOTE: chemist1422

After a real brief review of some ISO's, I think this is the direction to go today.

[Jamelia]

Let's start seeing some action, people. Votes. Questions. Opinions and responses. Something. Anything. We don't need a hammer yet, but we do need to at least start looking for nails.

Apathetic towns lose games.

Well, from the beginning I’ve always been weary of Chemist. I’ve mentioned this before in previous posts.

I obviously sense some sort of scumminess from Oobsy, since they’re voting for me. But I need to investigate a little more.

I have been reading pretty much every day.

[Mr Oobsy]

I obviously sense some sort of scumminess from Oobsy, since they’re voting for me.

If I weren't actually

Tracker

the real one would have counter-claimed me, since that guarantees a

Mafia

gets lynched with only

50%

chance a

Town

also gets lynched.

Micc

, vote

Jamelia

. I'm not voting

chemist1422

unless you promise to self-hammer if he's

Town

, or give a better reason than

"a real brief review of some ISO's"

.

[Micc]

I was town-hunting while looking at ISO's. chemist didn't earn any town points and Jamelia had a couple. He also /in'd for a game despite not really playing this one which is pretty ehh...

[Jamelia]

I obviously sense some sort of scumminess from Oobsy, since they’re voting for me.

If I weren't actually

Tracker

the real one would have counter-claimed me, since that guarantees a

Mafia

gets lynched with only

50%

chance a

Town

also gets lynched.

Micc

, vote

Jamelia

. I'm not voting

chemist1422

unless you promise to self-hammer if he's

Town

, or give a better reason than

"a real brief review of some ISO's"

.

I mean, if you want to strong arm someone into voting for me without any real scumlead, that’s sorta weird. You weren’t accusing me of anything Day 1.

[Mr Oobsy]

Are you suggesting I might be

Mafia

or not?

VOTE: chemist1422

[Farren]

Right now, scum|Oobsy would require either:

- PR|Leucosticte, who hasn't posted since Oobsy's claim, or
- a PR that's voluntarily decided not to CC despite Oobsy's wagon falling apart.

#2 falls into the ?!? category - the longer you wait to counterclaim, the less likely your counterclaim is to be believed.
A counterclaim by Leucosticte would be awesome. I would love to see that. But I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it given the circumstances.

[Farren]

Jamelia: is Chemist currently your strongest scumread? If not, who is?

[Jamelia]

Jamelia: is Chemist currently your strongest scumread? If not, who is?

I think something that I’ve picked up on is that people love to go for those they believe are the scummiest at that current moment, but not looking at overall game.

I think my strongest scumread is Oobsy, based on hammering D1 on norwegian without scumreading them before that point. I still think as a whole everyone has a scumread on Chemist however, including myself.

[Farren]

I think something that I’ve picked up on is that people love to go for those they believe are the scummiest at that current moment, but not looking at overall game.

I think my strongest scumread is Oobsy, based on hammering D1 on norwegian without scumreading them before that point. I still think as a whole everyone has a scumread on Chemist however, including myself.

My read on Chemist is based partially on process of elimination, partially based on under-the-radar behavior today - and at least some of D1 as well, once the opening vote business furor died down. I wouldn't say he's my strongest scumread, but he's definitely in my lynch pool.

He's also the low-hanging fruit, though. Given Mr Oobsy's sudden case of Tracker, Chemist's probably the easiest person to lynch right now.

It would be *really* nice to get some fresh content to evaluate Chemist with. (hint, hint)

Anyway. So Oobsy's your strongest scumread. Voting for him right now would be pretty silly given the claim. So where would you rather go? Say majority lynch wasn't a thing, you didn't have to worry about hammers, deadline was all that mattered. Where would you be voting in that case?

[Leucosticte]

No counterclaim here. I'll have more to say later; kinda distracted right now.