Newbie 1951 (Day 4)

[emps]

oh i thought it meant it encourages scum to fakeclaim tracker

[popsofctown]

No I think it meant if you're town tracker you can pre-emptively claim like day 2 or so and there's decent probability of doc

[teacher]

Yea tracker is w doc or jk a majority of the time. I think there is some room for the old tracker claim strategy and it might even be optimal D2 strat. I was talking about real claims.

[emps]

ah, for something like follow the tracker?

[teacher]

Less likely for that, more for having an innocent child vs the weakness of the role. I know I’ve talked w you about the strat in the old setup, was thinking it is largely the same here, without really playing it out that much.

[emps]

ah, having an "innocent child" like in newbie 1938 when u claimed doc d2?

[emps]

Well, either you get an ic, or you force scum to cc

[teacher]

Yea, I still think that was the right ply w th tracker death. I just Shoulda crumbed.

[popsofctown]

Should I play Eve or Lazarus my next Binding of Isaac run?

Vote: skitter30

[skitter30]

i apologize.

It's just that a meta argument isn't generally applicable to my improvement as a player, so it's like, "aw dang, that explanation is valid but won't help me personally"

If I had also played 3 games with emps before and had come to a different conclusion and then he flipped green here

then

I would have something to learn here but I have never played with him and am not waist deep enough into this one to research

Not something that you need to apologize for, more me explaining where i'm coming from when i form reads

I get that meta might not be particularly helpful if you dont really use it / arent heavily invested in it, i literally dont know how divorce it from the game tho

[skitter30]

I think the post means genuine trackers as town so it's coincidence tho

Yeah ... i kinda dont think he tells his partner to lolclaim tracker given how he's spoken of the claim after the fact

[skitter30]

I think rc designed this setup to have very little room for scum to fake-claim

[skitter30]

Should I play Eve or Lazarus my next Binding of Isaac run?

Vote: skitter30

Do tell

[popsofctown]

I received Lilith at random because you didn't help me, thanks for asking though.

[popsofctown]

If I'm supposed to be townreading emps skitter is the only slot that seems voteworthy to me. It was in my first and second posts. Her stances throughout the game haven't been great. And she has been keeping her options open a lot today, more so than teacher (so has emps, but emps is an angel or whatever so okay).

[teacher]

Blergh. Nothings happening and I don’t like it.

[popsofctown]

Blergh. Nothings happening and I don’t like it.

Be the change you want to see in the world? As far as I can tell, you're not voting. With as far as I can tell meaning I didn't bother to iso but, like, I don't remember for sure.
With 4 town and 1 scum and a heavily played day 1 it's pretty unnatural not to lynch the 1 slot that didn't actually play heavily day 1. It's so unnatural not to lynch that slot the mafiosi is not taking leadership to ensure it happens, because the credcost isn't necessary to ensure it happens. So the game's going to stall out.

hot take

If you hadn't made day 2 into a cussing match between you and Menalque

This game might have stayed enjoyable enough that ms.net stayed in Sushi Cat's bookmarks and you wouldn't be in this stall right now.

Hectic would have been more merciful, he probably would have selfvoted at L-1, I'm going to cruelly make you guys play responsibility hot potato all the way up to the third vote (well, which might not be very long after the first vote, but please indulge my sadism)

[popsofctown]

I feel pretty sure it's skitter.

If emps is scum then he played his own meta so well that town!skitter strongly believed in an emps metacase.

You guys have pretty good odds with your lynch if that's the shot you take.

[Nexus]

Votecount 3.1:

skitter30 (1)-

popsofctown

Not voting (4)-

skitter30, teacher, emps, Selynee

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch. Selynee has been prodded. Deadline is now at 6pm BST on Wednesday 11th September 2019 (expired on 2019-09-11 18:00:00).

[popsofctown]

What a beautiful, beautiful votecount.


I DON'T EVEN GO HERE.

[Selynee]

I think emps's interaction with EC doesn't make much sense for them as partners. Went pretty strong on him, encouraged people to vote him but in the end he wasn't on his wagon (he gave intend and later voted Mena). As I said, not making much sense to me: if he wanted to throw his partner under the bus, I think he'd want to get maximum advantage from it and be on him.

Granted, I can see the case where he was just trying to disperse the wagon on EC after Mena unvoted, EC came in and didn't paid attention to the fact he didn't have intent yet and claimed. But eh, I feel that assumes he didn't talk with emps as partner about when to claim and to give him time to be in the "best position" regarding him (considering emps-mafia would knew that the PR claim would most likely be CC'ed, he made the probability calculus himself). Think there are too many assumptions here.

[popsofctown]

I am strongly assuming EC ignored his scum PT no matter his partner

[teacher]

I suppose it’s time.

VOTE: Pops

[skitter30]

If I'm supposed to be townreading emps skitter is the only slot that seems voteworthy to me. It was in my first and second posts. Her stances throughout the game haven't been great. And she has been keeping her options open a lot today, more so than teacher (so has emps, but emps is an angel or whatever so okay).

a) i don't understand your read on emps rn or where you're getting the 'i'm supposed to be townreading emps' / 'emps is an angel or whatever so okay' bit from

b) disagree that i'm keeping my options open; i've been re-evaluating and trying to sort out the game

[skitter30]

hot take

If you hadn't made day 2 into a cussing match between you and Menalque

This game might have stayed enjoyable enough that ms.net stayed in Sushi Cat's bookmarks and you wouldn't be in this stall right now.

this is kinda :/

i don't think the teacher/menalque thing has much to do with sushi flaking; i think it's p obvious that they flaked, and it's a little icky to blame that at teacher's feet, i think