Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: xofelf

[Firebringer]

VOTE: the worst

good vote. I shall sheep

VOTE: the worst

[Jingle]

Vote Count 1.4

Katsuki:

With 25 alive, it is 13 to Lynch or No Lynch!

Firebringer (5): Gamma Emerald, Menalque, Aristophanes, Katsuki, GreyICE,
the worst (5): Skygazer, PenguinPower, Pink Ball, ankamius, Firebringer,
xofelf (3): Lady Lambdadelta, Jjh927, DrippingGoofball,
Aristophanes (2): mastina, Krazy,
Chickadee (1): MariaR,
Iconeum (0):
Menalque (0):
Krazy (0):
MariaR (0):
Gamma Emerald (0):
mastina (0):
DrippingGoofball (0):
Lady Lambdadelta (0):
chennisden (0):
popsofctown (0):
ankamius (0):
UntrodTripod (0):
PenguinPower (0):
GreyICE (0):
Jjh927 (0):
Skygazer (0):
Formerfish (0):
Pink Ball (0):
Dannflor (0):
Katsuki (0):

Not Voting (9): chennisden, xofelf, UntrodTripod, the worst, Chickadee, Formerfish, Iconeum, Dannflor, popsofctown,

Deadline: Day 1 will end in 10 days, on June 17th. This is in (expired on 2019-09-17 15:00:00).

Ducky is V/LA.
Spyconeum is V/LA.

[Dannflor]

There is no actual reason to ask Alisae any questions

This seems uh wrong

I am more than happy to debate this if you wanna, but it'll distract from actually playing the game

VOTE: jjh hi

Your stance itself isn't inherently problematic even if I entirely disagree, but your wording is so icky. #162 is such blatant white knighting while basically shutting down early interactions with that slot. Just because Alisae can't die doesn't mean it might not help other players in forming reads to ask the opinion of a town-confirmed slot. Maybe it's an overreaction, but the "it'll distract from actually playing the game" rubs me the wrong way because it's a very easy way to escape responsibility of defending a stance you took, one that I think is very relevant to the game.

It is a rather clumsy way to try and pocket Alisae, but I don't have a reason to think it's outside your scum range.

What do you think of the worst's opening posts? + specifically the wagon that just developed on him

Also I know you think asking Alisae questions is fruitless (no pun intended), do you think anything can be gleaned from interacting with Pine?

Speaking of the worst:

I don't really like pops all that much off p2ish (but I love her as a person <3) but Gamma is still town!Gamma. Ank is somewhere in null/nulltown.

Pops was actually my first town read. Mostly based off her initial case against Firebringer and then sudden backing off 3 posts later. Scum don't usually do that, or if they do it's more thought out than that.

Like Gamma and pops a tiny tiny bit.

I'm curious what brought you from slightly liking Pops to disliking her off Page 2. What exactly pinged you there?

I definitely agree on town!Gamma, mostly based on #194 and #202 and him completely 180ing when I prodded him on MariaR. Again, something I really don't think anyone but the best scum players do with that amount of carefree energy.

What's pinging town!Ank for you?

Also I think Firebringer can be town.

[MariaR]

I can't tell if Danns post is just extremely shallow and bad or scummy. At the moment I lean on shallow. But when I say that I know Dann is a decent player so would he really make that kind of post? Meh, not really something I should probably get involved with. I'm too busy trying to halfheartedly solve Chickadee. I'll let you guys look at that post yourself. The comments on 'scum normally do x' is the shallow part if you need it pointed out. His questions are pretty basic and wasteful as well. So go on kids discuss or don't. Not really my problem

[chennisden]

i assumed you meant 2 pages for the entire game per gameday, im drunk

[chennisden]

Lazy votes guys.

The FB wagon is weird (though fb is scummy), not sure why worst is being wagoned at all, and whoever is scumreading ank please stop

[jjh927]

VOTE: jjh hi

Your stance itself isn't inherently problematic even if I entirely disagree, but your wording is so icky. #162 is such blatant white knighting while basically shutting down early interactions with that slot. Just because Alisae can't die doesn't mean it might not help other players in forming reads to ask the opinion of a town-confirmed slot. Maybe it's an overreaction, but the "it'll distract from actually playing the game" rubs me the wrong way because it's a very easy way to escape responsibility of defending a stance you took, one that I think is very relevant to the game.

It is a rather clumsy way to try and pocket Alisae, but I don't have a reason to think it's outside your scum range.

What do you think of the worst's opening posts? + specifically the wagon that just developed on him

Also I know you think asking Alisae questions is fruitless (no pun intended), do you think anything can be gleaned from interacting with Pine?

There are much better things to be forming reads off. If something is relevant, then Alisae will act on it. The things that are either irrelevant or hardly relevant will still help scum mason hunt, so it's just a bad idea to want that info out there


Generally speaking, I don't like voting the worst early on because he's a cool guy and I like playing with him. I don't think he's scum and I'm not fond of the wagon on him- especially when he's V/LA, lowering its value as an RVS wagon-, but the FB wagon is worse


I think some stuff could be figured out from Pine but I don't think it's worth the effort to actively engage with him. He'll say what he wants to

[jjh927]

My bad on thinking this would distract from playing the game btw because this is good shit

[Dannflor]

The comments on 'scum normally do x' is the shallow part if you need it pointed out.

I think this is just how I approach things early in the day. but w/e

[Firebringer]

I love you danny boi

[Dannflor]

My bad on thinking this would distract from playing the game btw because this is good shit

I love you danny boi

and I love you random citizen

[Chickadee]

I think all the current wagons are bad.

But I don't have a better suggestion at the moment.


I like FB, Dann, and MariaR for town.

[Ankamius]

Anyone who is townreading me gives me the willies

Nothing I've done so far is significantly AI

[jjh927]

What's wrong with Xofelf or Ari?

[Firebringer]

I think all the current wagons are bad.

But I don't have a better suggestion at the moment.


I like FB, Dann, and MariaR for town.

why is worstie a bad wagon

[Ankamius]

MariaR doesn't look town in a way that I can easily see from a posturing pov

[chennisden]

lazy post chickadee.

re post 314: i was talking about the big two wagons but then next two aren't great either. xofelf is fineish but not great.

[MariaR]

Wow, I agree with Chick that all the wagons are bad yet I'm voting her because of that reason. That somewhat makes me change my opinion. If you really need facts on why the wagons are bad
A) Ari is bad because his iso is just filler and wagoning them will accomplish nothing
B) Unless you're LLD you have no reason to vote xof because it's a meta read. You should be waiting for them to post more
C) The worst is a bad wagon because of the simple fact the worst becomes glaringly obvious the more the game plays out.
Ank you of all people should know that talking about my slot at the moment would be pointless because I have day 1 lynch immunity basically with how people attempt to solve me. Check back on me in a day or 2 and see how you feel about me then.

[Chickadee]

I think all the current wagons are bad.

But I don't have a better suggestion at the moment.


I like FB, Dann, and MariaR for town.

why is worstie a bad wagon

Well, for one, He's VLA. This early, with nothing solid to go on, it doesn't help us a lot to wagon someone VLA.

And second, I like that he's looking at aspects of the game differently. I don't particularly like that he's town reading me, but I also don't dislike it.

So I guess mostly for selfish reasons.

[Firebringer]

@maria why am I a bad wagon?

also LLD "meta read" is more or less not one but its shit because she discounted by saying that nothing xof posted wasn't outside her town range just saying this was how a survivor player with an agenda would frame things, which is weak.

[Firebringer]

So I guess mostly for selfish reasons.

this was what I thought was the reason and now I feel vindicated for u saying it.

[Chickadee]

I love him, he's my best friend, don't kill him.

I want the chance to work with him, because I do think he'll become obvious after a while.

[jjh927]

B) Unless you're LLD you have no reason to vote xof because it's a meta read. You should be waiting for them to post more

This is a really poor argument and I think you should be aware of that

We're not far out of RVS here

[Ankamius]

Wow, I agree with Chick that all the wagons are bad yet I'm voting her because of that reason. That somewhat makes me change my opinion. If you really need facts on why the wagons are bad
A) Ari is bad because his iso is just filler and wagoning them will accomplish nothing
B) Unless you're LLD you have no reason to vote xof because it's a meta read. You should be waiting for them to post more
C) The worst is a bad wagon because of the simple fact the worst becomes glaringly obvious the more the game plays out.
Ank you of all people should know that talking about my slot at the moment would be pointless because I have day 1 lynch immunity basically with how people attempt to solve me. Check back on me in a day or 2 and see how you feel about me then.

I think you're reaching the wrong conclusions of what I'm trying to do atm