Mini Normal 2095 - Game Over!

[Iconeum]

LUV's reads the last week have been only pushing a claimed PR, and is now putting up a lynchlist that contains BOTH PR's.

LUV what is up with that? Can you explain your thoughts behind that?

[Tchill13]

I don't dislike the way you play.

You've just conformed to the site when it comes to fake claiming as town for no reason. So now you're just part of the problem and in a way worse because not only do you do it but you allow it which means you might as well encourage it.

That shit is part of why town is so terrible here. It's really just one thing. Other than that I don't have any stances on your play.

[Luca Blight]

Lil Uzi Vert

- I'm not feeling this one so won't be voting here today. I'm not going to complain bitterly if his lynch is pushed through as I can understand the suspicion towards him, but I don't think he's scum.

Klick

- It's possible that Klick could be scum who has played a very good game, but I doubt it. I can follow the progression in his reads right the way through and nothing about the way he's changed or reconsidered seems forced or unnatural to me.

Datisi

- I would not be massively opposed to a Datisi lynch as I think she is one of the more likely to be scum based on PoE, but her recent play has struck me as genuine and fair in a way I can see coming from Town.

gobbledygook

- This the the slot I'm currently most unsure of. Yes, he is a claimed PR in a game full mainly of VT claims, but the nature of his claim is dubious. His predecesor was the first up in the mass-claim, and had he claimed N3 BG here then it would have held a lot more water. As it were he claimed VT and stuck to that even when he was heading towards the lynch before his replace-out. Gobble then comes in and immediately calls for a mass-claim and himself claims N3 BG which feels like an unnatural move to make. He claims he had read 0% of the thread, which I find hard to believe given the coincidence and convenience of the situation, since we had literally just finished mass-claiming. As scum he could probably see a window of opportunity whereby if he claims then it could be believable due to the apparent lack of Town power. The obscure role could also be chosen to make the claim more believable. As for his recent work, I don't buy into any of it, and none of it is particularly AI - it is a very shallow way of game-solving, in my opinion, and is based on very shaky foundations and huge assumptions

Tchill13

- I feel like he might be Town, but here I obviously have a problem as I have too many TR's. Tchill currently ranks below Icon and Klick in my Townreads.

VOTE: Gobble

[Tchill13]

Ugh. Someone tell me why scum claims n3 bodyguard instead of n2 when there's not a tracker in the game.

[Tchill13]

Me/Icon/datisi/gobble is enough to lynch luv

Klick and Luca have made it clear they won't be doing that.

So if you 3 would please cooperate that'd be outstanding.

[Tchill13]

I think A50 was being spiteful and was going to let his slot get lynched while claiming vt and then tell us to shove it.

I think a game with 2 PR's makes more sense than a game with 1 PR. I've asked about 4 times if anyone was lying about VT please come forward, and nobody has. So I'm left to believe that we're in a game with either one or 2 PR's. I prefer to believe 2 given the context.

So once again, if you're lying about being a PR you're seriously messing up my game and my reads. Please come forward.

I think Gobble’s "system" was genuine and I believe he's town more so than luv/Billy when assessing the 2.

It always comes back to the Billy "reaction test". If not for that nobody would tr luv. You're pinning the slot on one thing that happened early d1, there's not another reason to back it up. It's just insane to me.

I've seen ppl play the way datisi has played and flip town.

It's still weird to me that Luca and klick aren't really pushing each other.

[Tchill13]

There almost HAS to be scum in luv/gobble due to the confusion that we're at.

Active town chasing active town is the only thing that usually leads to this kind of game state.

[Tchill13]

It's not the only thing. Meant to delete "only"

[Datisi]

VOTE: LUV

Btw, why

would

scum claim n2 bg here? They couldn't go for the obvious kill then.

[Tchill13]

One scum in luv/gobble/datisi.

And that's the order I'd bet it in.

Probably one scum in Luca/klick.

Luca and klick are BOTH against luv.

It just makes sense to lynch luv 1st out of the more suspicious slots if you're suspicious AT ALL of klick or Luca.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

LUV's reads the last week have been only pushing a claimed PR, and is now putting up a lynchlist that contains BOTH PR's.

LUV what is up with that? Can you explain your thoughts behind that?

My scum read of you stems from the Alisae kill. I had mentioned earlier that I believe the theory you shared with someone about most players would night kill Alisae here is wrong. I am still willing to accept it as your experience with them isn’t lengthy as mine and I can see some players who primarily play in the Normal queue doing so. I still believe Alisae’s play here did not set off PR alarm bells for scum though. So my question in regards to you was if you fear killed Alisae or were setup?

The mailman claim to be me is difficult for me to buy because I never seen the loyal modifier attached too. I’ve often seen the loud modifier attached to it. It’s also still very weak role overall and I know the NRG gives town a ton of power of these days.

Luca described my thoughts on Gobble perfectly to be honest.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If you two are just going to be brick walls and repeat the same play that essentially got Emperor lynched than I’ll just do the same.

VOTE: Gobble

[Datisi]

Would you believe if he had claimed Cop through? Because this is pretty much the same thing, maybe a bit more powerful.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: LUV

Btw, why

would

scum claim n2 bg here? They couldn't go for the obvious kill then.

Claim n2 BG so you can keep conf town icon in the game. You then say scum kept you alive for the wifom.

You then kill an inactive slot.

When pressured you ask "why the hell would scum claim n2 bg? Everyone read icon as town and I'm only guaranteeing he stays around with this claim. He should have been scums top priority."

Auto "conf" town right there. Town would be so confused that you could literally push anyone as scum except icon.

Of course I as scum would assume this town wouldn't be able to get their shit together in lylo and that's what I'd do personally.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

tchill still has the unexplained and weird turnabout on Datisi since day start but it’ll be my fault if we lose because I was lurking

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Would you believe if he had claimed Cop through? Because this is pretty much the same thing, maybe a bit more powerful.

No I wouldn’t have either because no red herring followed.

[Klick]

Why would I push for a massclaim in the first place here? Icon could have just been lynched. Me, Luca, Tchill, A50. The votes were there at one point.

Are you suggesting that I was willing to vote Icon? Because this was never the case.

The scenario I was arguing against was the two of us being partners. If you were my scumbuddy, you'd have probably joined the wagon as well.

[Tchill13]

If you two are just going to be brick walls and repeat the same play that essentially got Emperor lynched than I’ll just do the same.

VOTE: Gobble

Most players WOULD kill Ali. She softed a protective right before the thread was locked.

[Tchill13]

Luv is shading both PR claims.

So we have no PR's huh?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If you two are just going to be brick walls and repeat the same play that essentially got Emperor lynched than I’ll just do the same.

VOTE: Gobble

Most players WOULD kill Ali. She softed a protective right before the thread was locked.

I still don’t know what that crumb is. I remember random posting shortly after but no crumb.

[Tchill13]

When luv does play it just seems like he's constantly providing weak arguments.

[Tchill13]

Dw icon i’ll make sure u get a result

Honestly team is probs luca/luv

There's the soft.

Throwing her read in because it could still be true. So points Alisae.

[Tchill13]

VC 1.5

Kop (4) [L-1]

- Almost50, Iconeum, Datisi, Billy Pilgrim

Emperor flippyNips (1)

- Kop

Tchill13 (1)

- Klick

Datisi (1)

- Tchill13

Not Voting (4)

- Luca Blight, Emperor flippyNips

With 9 alive, majority is 5.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-08-28 07:00:00)

Notes

Almost50 replaces Robbnva.

VC 1.13

Emperor flippyNips (5) [L-0]

- Luca Blight, Datisi, Iconeum, Klick, Alisae

Luca Blight (1)

- Emperor flippyNips

Datisi (1)

- Tchill13

Not Voting (2)

- Almost50, Lil Uzi Vert

With 9 alive, majority is 5.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-08-28 07:00:00)

Notes

Klick is V/LA for a few days.
Flip will likely be delayed until I’m out of school.

[Klick]

If the vote is between gobble and LUV I'm voting LUV.

But if Icon has a different lynch he particularly wants today I'll sheep it instead.

[Tchill13]

Fucking hell we're only on D2. There's not even 2 lynch wagons to examine.

We need to lynch luv, the guy whose being cleared by a reaction test from his predecessor, who hasn't played a majority of the time (and is justifying it because I can't explain why scum would do that, well I can't exactly explain why town would do that either) and doesn't exactly believe even 1 PR claim.

Like how the FUCK has this not been lynched yet.

Because "Billy was obv town with his reaction"

Get the fuck out of here.