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[Elements]

I think all the miller claims are fake and if they're investigated as mafia, they are mafia. Those are my two cents.
I also cannot remember who I'm voting for currently.

[Elements]

Ok it's on roster. yea that's fine

[Kop]

im not liking the fact your speculating on the set up this early.

Is it early to start speculating? I just quite like doing it.

Im hoping for a third game were my initial impressions turn out to be right

Sorry to disappoint

I find rolefishing to what roles could be out there scummy, especially on day one. Because it just feels like it could be scum looking for reactions and get a feel of where the possible PR's are.

Setup speculating should be done at least day two once we have a night out of the way to see what we are up against.

[Kop]

I think all the miller claims are fake and if they're investigated as mafia, they are mafia. Those are my two cents.
I also cannot remember who I'm voting for currently.

I'm not ruling out a miller possibly being out there, but any modified millers are all fake IMO. I don't consider any modifiers normal roles in a normal game like this. Unless this setup is different kinda normal to what I'm used too.

[Kop]

VOTE: Roster

[Kop]

Some people (myself included) believe the RVS stage is never truly random and you always pick someone for some reason, so it's a "low information vote stage"

I think it's a minority opinion

Hmm, there's probably a statistic for scum being more/less likely to pick their buddies during RVS, but I couldn't find anything like that on the wiki unfortunately.
We could start gaining info for that now if you like? What alignment are you and was your RVS your scum buddy?

I actually picked kop because he totally duped me in a past game once ha ha

I am town of course

Your going to have to refresh my mind, what are you on about?

@profii did you answer this.

[profii]

Some people (myself included) believe the RVS stage is never truly random and you always pick someone for some reason, so it's a "low information vote stage"

I think it's a minority opinion

Hmm, there's probably a statistic for scum being more/less likely to pick their buddies during RVS, but I couldn't find anything like that on the wiki unfortunately.
We could start gaining info for that now if you like? What alignment are you and was your RVS your scum buddy?

I actually picked kop because he totally duped me in a past game once ha ha

I am town of course

Your going to have to refresh my mind, what are you on about?

@profii did you answer this.

dont think so posting to get wiki link to go find the game...

[profii]

There was a game ages ago and I think I got to lylo - I think you replcaed into a slot cursed with inactivity that went through about 4 replaces during the game and I voted with you causing a town loss and your scum win

so i RVS'd you because i hold huge grudges and that seemed as good a reason as any... i'm not over that loss

[Kop]

I've just spent the last 30 minutes digging through previous games, and can't find it

[profii]

This one

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=74615

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi this game feels boring rn

[davesaz]

I don't like Hectic dropping out like that.
Lots of slots in prod range.
Fake claims are

fun

but don't really help solve.
Setup spec in a closed game before any flips seems pointless at best, and harmful is more likely.

VOTE: rosterfoster seems like a good place to poke, for now.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

Hi this game feels boring rn

^^ Let's spice it up then. VTs claim, then Goons do. This leaves only PRs unclaimed from both sides, and life is a hell lot easier for both sides.

Note: I can foresee someone saying that's dumb, and they'd be right. Well, guess what? I AM DUMB.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: skellen

I claim charismatic midget. At night I'm allowed 2 actions that I can do at the same time (very interesting ik) I drink and ik things. I get access to the knowing early. I know skellen is scum. Lynch skellen.

[Billy Pilgrim]

VOTE: skellen

I claim charismatic midget. At night I'm allowed 2 actions that I can do at the same time (very interesting ik) I drink and ik things. I get access to the knowing early. I know skellen is scum. Lynch skellen.

You voted the lurker that's V/LA?

[Tchill13]

Idgaf. Lynch skellen or YOUAREGREAT and I'll be happy.

Or we can continue bullshitting with our hands in our pockets. Game is stagnating. It needs a flip.

Chop chop ppl let's go.

[Elements]

I want roster

[Hectic]

Well, the wiki did warn me about playing too many games simultaneously. I swear on my Fish Monger that I'll catch up tomorrow.

And when I catch up, I don't just catch up, I overtake.
Wiki tells me that the top poster rank is held by town 78% of the time during day 1.
So I'll be taking that tomorrow, thanks very much, Carca.

-Hectic "Hectic" Hectic

[Carcalilly]

@anyone who townreads tchill13

why?

Do you not? His statements are contributive and seem pretty honest.

[Tchill13]

I fos'd her and that was her response lol.

[Carcalilly]

Inspecting a miller claim is wasting the inspect, just decide if you believe it not

hey want to give us some useful insight on your opinions on interactions and on individual players? Don't get me wrong thanks for the setup spec but more from you would be gamechanging <3

[Elements]

-Hectic "Hectic" Hectic

I think you're bleeding through here

[Carcalilly]

I'm guessing that there's only so much we can talk about day 1, even though for a large game 32 pages isn't much.

I expected us to lynch someone soon but either scums playing real good or the lynchbait is laying low.

Wanna predict the nightkill? Do you think scum will be cautious of jjd's whatever-the-fuck-cop-claim? Or will they realize it's a joke? Or is it?

What are we going to achieve by trying to predict the nightkill? You do realise that there is most likely going to be more than one kill.

1. Who are you, where did you come from, why is this one of the first times I'm aware of your presence?

2. If town can work together-subtly-with the prs to prevent or predict a NK it will be favorable. Town can WIFOM scum with protective roles. Giving them a hard time is worth a minimal effort. Predicting can urge scum to rethink their decisions and possibly make ones less favorable to them. It prepares us for day two. Nobody was saying anything on the thread and I wanted something-anything-to talk about.

3. How the fuck is everyone so sure about a third faction or alternative killing role?

[Carcalilly]

The primarily lurker wagons are gross.

Rolefishing is scummy if the person with the actual role isn't involved. They have the role, if they wish to get the rest of the town involved in using it, that has the potential to benefit everyone.

[Carcalilly]

So if someone's first post is "hey guys I'm a bulletproof JOAT survivor with a loyal Miller modifier" it's a-fuckin-ok to talk about it.