Newbie 1951 (Day 4)

[teacher]

Not really, though IsO and google did confirm the name of the game that I have never heard. Good luck.

Emps, unless you’ll go pops, he’s out. Your ball. That’s my preference, but we need some lynch either way.

[emps]

uhhhh i really dont know here tbh

[emps]

im leaning skitter but ill skitter and the pops slot

[emps]

meant to say ill iso the skitter and the pops slot

[skitter30]

I'm pretty sure the self-hammer here is suboptimal

But I want to warm all your hearts with the knowledge that I thought critically about it. And I'm not positive.


I don't know that I have anything to add and if all my arguments sound terrible, maybe I'm only damaging the LyLo sort.

Maybe I'll review Selynee for the 1% hidden knife collection

ngl i'm slightly confused where the defeatism is coming from

[skitter30]

idk gut tells me to vote skitter

do tell

I am strongly assuming EC ignored his scum PT no matter his partner

then again this feels kinda tmi

emps, why has your posting dropped off so majorly this day phase?

[skitter30]

deadsheeping is rare and circumstantially it will be even rarer since you and selynee have no experience with me and skitter has 1 negative experience with me and teacher has no experience with me but is probably educated and can detect my 2.9 GPA

(what's the negative experience?)

[skitter30]

My read on emps is that at least 1 town aligned player with demonstrated mafia ability has a townread on the slot, wouldn't drop it in the light of my arguments, and has informational advantage on me, so correct play for the most part is to at a minimum not shoehorn it.

It creates this situation where there's a lot of correctness for proxying someone else's opinion in place of my own. It's not satisfying and if you had to do it 100% of the time mafia would be so unfun it is unplayable.

i mean i kinda fundementally disagree with this approach to sheeping; i only believe in sheeping A on B if i have some reason to believe that A is signficantly better at reading B than i am

[popsofctown]

our only game was the boon game right? I didn't find any scum and was mislynched. Kind of the worst possible KDR as VT.

[skitter30]

I'm confused about the genuineness of this thought, since mislynch teacher into emps seemed like the percentage play from scumpops's seat.

I'm not sure to what extent I should expect town!skitter to get that reconstruction. But I felt like I was pretty intentional about charting a path where I get mislynched and improve the quality of the subsequent lynch.

i mean yes ? i'm saying that if you're scum i think you're working on getting emps into a mislynchable position

[skitter30]

our only game was the boon game right? I didn't find any scum and was mislynched. Kind of the worst possible KDR as VT.

eh i wouldn't call that a negative expereince

a) i think i repped in after you got mislynched; i dont' remember you anyways that well

b) people have bad reads sometimes, or get lynched; these things happen; these don't really give me impetus to form a negative opinion of you; it just means that particular game you didn't play well

i usually reserve negative opinions for people who turned the game into a toxic mess

[skitter30]

So you think it’s almost certainly the very experienced players (me, skit, emps) not the ones with total lack (Selene, sushi) that lent creeper limp on like he did all game?

That’s my issue. I have a TR on sushi. I’ve accepted that I’m the mislynch for tomorrow when you will eat crow. I’m trying to help town for D4 in picking btw emps, skit, and selynee. I think I would encourage them to go seleynee. Either live with that advise or convince me why I’m wrong.

wait rereading this again in pops post - how did you get to a strong enough townread on selynee that you'd be willing to lose to scum!selynee tomorrow?

or am i misreading what you mean in the second paragraph?

[skitter30]

skitter is africa your favorite continent?

probably not, i think north american or aisa, why

[popsofctown]

Apparently he decided to start thinking about partners around when Hectic replaced, and strongly locked a re-appraisal that moved me from a townread to dead last by a significant margin. I'm assuming Selynee's dramatic movement must have been part of that silent realignment, even though I don't see how partner-based argument are favorable for sely slot

[popsofctown]

Your avatar features Africa the most prominently

[skitter30]

UNVOTE: Pops

Skitter -- are you assuming they flaked D3? (clearly, by your vote). Selynee's comment on that is the thing giving me the most pause about this lynch. I coudl see Sushi submitting the kills (man do I wish she had "last active" activated), but I dont get the flaking out after submitting the two kills. Like if she had the will to see that through, why flake out -- unless it was the early posts indicating she was definitely in the lynch pool.

I also tend to agree that lynching me would have been optimal scumplay from their perspective, and certainly not giving sely as hard of a townread -- certainly a case could be made that, by pushing against all lynches today, sely is staying above the fray while town fights itself out.

Im still somewhat inclined to this lynch, though also tempted your direction for the fence-sittyness earlier on Emp's positioning re: creep and me. I kinda want to see how you answer this before a lynch goes through.

i don't remember exactly when they stopped posting, i think ~day2? i don't know why they'd flake after making the nks; it could be they found keeping upw ith the game to be difficult, or that they didn't know how to respond to the suspicion on them

still disagree that i was being fence-sitty

[skitter30]

Apparently he decided to start thinking about partners around when Hectic replaced, and strongly locked a re-appraisal that moved me from a townread to dead last by a significant margin. I'm assuming Selynee's dramatic movement must have been part of that silent realignment, even though I don't see how partner-based argument are favorable for sely slot

yeah i don't get it

[skitter30]

Your avatar features Africa the most prominently

oh! i was looking for a pic of earth and this was first one i liked that i found

[skitter30]

Skitter if you go to a teach-emps-skit LyLo and you actually are godlike at 1v1s even though you don't enjoy them at all just like how I feel about Scrabble I only win if you're town and I want you to really think about lynching emps over teacher. Meta means something I know it does but there's a logical stopping point.

i def will; i rethink/reread like the entire game in lylo

[skitter30]

Skitter


How often do you think the scum PT was used

either the other partner was a newb and didn't have much advice or epic ignored it; i don't think he played super well if he was getting coached

[popsofctown]

Apparently he decided to start thinking about partners around when Hectic replaced, and strongly locked a re-appraisal that moved me from a townread to dead last by a significant margin. I'm assuming Selynee's dramatic movement must have been part of that silent realignment, even though I don't see how partner-based argument are favorable for sely slot

yeah i don't get it

You're making me stressed out about my skitter solve pls stop bully

[popsofctown]

unvote

[skitter30]

yo teacher, you around?
you wana explain where the selynee townread came from?

[skitter30]

bleh i'm not sure scum!you unvotes here ...

i'm kinda conflicted

[emps]

emps, why has your posting dropped off so majorly this day phase?

just rl stuff. been busy lately and dont have very much motivation to play tbh