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[Tchill13]

I was being A JERK to him. Ik someone else was also. I'll iso it later.

[Luca Blight]

Anyway, this is a pointless discussion right now.

Let me catch-up and re-read everything and I'll come to my own conclusions.

[Tchill13]

Also your pushing I absolutely disagree with my partners fake claim that I could have helped him with if we were scum together.

[Luca Blight]

You couldn't have helped him given scum have no day chat.

You have helped him in terms of locking him as town.

[Tchill13]

I helped flippy to.

[Luca Blight]

I helped flippy to.

Which counts for nothing now given you wanted Datisi lynched instead.

Meaning you would have saved a VT to lynch a VT.

[Luca Blight]

And as scum you would have had more interest in keeping Flippy alive as he would always be an easy ML down the road.

[Tchill13]

And as scum you would have had more interest in keeping Flippy alive as he would always be an easy ML down the road.

We are on page 107 and you've finally brought up a great point on what Scum! Tchill would do.

That said. You've also proven that no matter what flip's alignment was, because you can't see the same perspective I seen when town reading flippy, that means I'm scum no matter flips alignment.

[Luca Blight]

I literally gave you the datisi lynch. I worked with you so datisi could be lynched. Yes I said I wanted anyone lynched but I obviously wanted luv lynched the most and I still helped you achieve your datisi lynch.

This is such BS I nearly spat out my coffee.

I wanted a Gobble lynch end of D2, not a Datisi lynch. I didn't think Datisi was scum by the end of the day, but knew that when you and Icon switched off of Gobble and onto Datisi that it was either her or Uzi, who is a stronger Townread, so I reluctantly hammered.

Don't try and make out you were doing me a favour by lynching Datisi.

[Tchill13]

I helped flippy to.

Which counts for nothing now given you wanted Datisi lynched instead.

Meaning you would have saved a VT to lynch a VT.

I also stated why this isn't 100 percent true. Luv was my first choice and I told you why I wanted datisi lynched over A50.

But I voted both. And "to work with you" is "because I'm scum" from your pov atm.

[Luca Blight]

And as scum you would have had more interest in keeping Flippy alive as he would always be an easy ML down the road.

We are on page 107 and you've finally brought up a great point on what Scum! Tchill would do.

That said. You've also proven that no matter what flip's alignment was, because you can't see the same perspective I seen when town reading flippy, that means I'm scum no matter flips alignment.

I think you may well be scum, but it isn't based on the Flippy lynch/defence. I believe you could have done such a defence as either alignment.

The

only

thing that's making me consider you might be town right now is the fact you missed Icon's claim.

[Tchill13]

Ugh... What a terrible reason. Seriously.

[Luca Blight]

Ugh... What a terrible reason. Seriously.

Explain this to me.

[Tchill13]

I missed icons claim so I might be town?

How the hell does that make sense?

[Luca Blight]

I missed icons claim so I might be town?

How the hell does that make sense?

So you don't think scum might have discussed it during N1?

[Tchill13]

You don't think I could have faked that as scum? You seen what I thought a fake claimed should do in gobble's situation. It's at least kind of elaborate. You just thought I was talking about gobble doing stuff with it on D2 instead of lylo. Obviously he would reap the rewards of the fake claim in lylo. Not D2. As it would be stupid like you explained.

[Luca Blight]

I think you could fake it generally speaking, but the situation as it presented itself seemed as though it wasn't fake. You were oblivious to what was happening, to the point where you thought Klick was soft-claiming. And this isn't out of the ordinary for you either. If that reaction was genuinely faked then you deserve the MafiaScum version of an Oscar.

At the end of the day we have to base reads on what we deem to be real and fake behaviour, and your reaction to my critical eye didn't seem faked at all.

[Tchill13]

I'm literally fighting with you on the only reason you're town me atm.

I still think your reason is shit. It makes sense slightly but... It's not a good one to risk the game on.


I obviously can't change your mind, you refuse to let me even try and change it.

It's luv/klick.

[Tchill13]

Anyway,

I think I provided good reason for a shit fake claim from scum regarding the bg3 if you realize that gobble uses the fake claim on d3, not D2.

[Luca Blight]

I'm not risking the game on it, hence I'm still not townreading you. I think you did genuinely miss the claim, but possibly there could be another explanation which still means you're scum (I've been over these already).

Why should I let you change my mind? If I see sufficient reason to change it I will, hence my considering you as Town just now. I think you're wrong about Uzi at least, but I need to re-read over everything again.

[Tchill13]

Why should you work with other ppl at all?

Do you consider this game a team effort or more of a solo effort? The game of mafiascum.

[Luca Blight]

Anyway,

I think I provided good reason for a shit fake claim from scum regarding the bg3 if you realize that gobble uses the fake claim on d3, not D2.

So is your point that Scum!Gobble maintains the VT claim until D3, keeps Icon alive and tries to implicate him with a guilty Track? If so, I would believe Icon over him every single time. Not to mention if someone recieves a letter from Icon it proves his claim and they will then also side with Icon against Gobble.

And just because you have alternative possibilities of what scum could have done, doesn't mean Gobble must be Town because he didn't have the same thought-process as you. The fact he is still alive and being townread by at least one townie shows his was not a bad play from a scum perspective.

[Tchill13]

Why even ask me if when I provide reasonable better explanations (with someone kicking and screaming they hate having to TR icon in the game) for you just throw them aside when I provide them?

[Luca Blight]

Why should you work with other ppl at all?

Do you consider this game a team effort or more of a solo effort? The game of mafiascum.

I work with people I trust, like I have worked with Icon throughout this game, and was willing to hammer Datisi partly based on his meta read on her even though I didn't massively SR her by EoD. Anything you say I must take with a pinch of salt, as I'm not entirely townreading you, and I could certainly see how you could be scum trying to talk me into the easy ML in Uzi.

[Tchill13]

Maybe, juuuuuuust maybe... He being alive isn't because of good scum play....