Micro 885: Crown on the Ground (Game Over)

[Hectic]

I felt like I've jumped to conclusions a little too quickly.
I'd like to apologise to everyone for my tunnel earlier.
After much reconsideration, I've decided to retract my initial vote.

UNVOTE: Hectic
VOTE: Chemist L-1 to be safe.

I am declaring intent to convince someone else to declare intent here.

Better hurry, Chemist.

[gameplay506]

14 hours
Can i hammer

[gameplay506]

Are we crowning hectic if this flips town
Can I like... Get the crown this game?
Please?
I'm town, I'm VT, I want to do something

[gameplay506]

[gameplay506]

Hectic I see you online, don't ignore me

[Oversoul]

Vote Count 3.01

Chemist1422 (2) - Correspondence, Hectic

L-1

Not Voting (3) - Chemist1422, gameplay506, popsofctown

The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2019-09-17 02:00:00).

Since a couple of players have asked for an extension a 72 hour extension will be granted.

[Chemist1422]

Spoiler:

Yeah... no

There were different, mechanical reasons not to mess with the slot I replaced into in that game, and we won as scum through mechanics after the day 2 lynch

You're looking scummy this game pops

I want to crown Dunnstral.
That way we don't crown scum.
Then he gets shot and we don't lose someone with good reads

...?

UNVOTE:

Does that include taking pot shots at me every few posts?

pops I ~don't know~ what you're expecting from me

I don't have any scumreads

I read one of Drew's scumgames he plays pretty aimlessly as scum. In a complete vacuum I think that would actually temper my read. If someone like you flipflopped day1 for example I would townread that (jk I would probably townread you for taking any kind of stance in day 1 of a mafia game. But let's say...if Dunnstral did that)

You seriously have this weird obsession with me this game where every few posts you're taking a jab at me and it's not just trying to get me to give content

Starry Night town!Dunnstral had a lot more townhunting and a similar total lack of scumhunting.
I don't want to link that game it gives me PTSD

That game had specific mechanics that changed the way I played

You saw me in guns and roses too, albeit briefly, I wasn't townhunting in that game

Dunnstral do you scumread me right now?

Not really no

This evidently makes you incredibly difficult to read

Is this a slip? :0

I don't get it

Dunnstral did a lot more townhunting in that game, and actually gave out reads, even a few scum ones. Still happy with lynching him. Correspondence>Dunnstral>Drew.

I townread Edguf, pops, and RC, and townlean gameplay and Aa.

That game was 199 pages long, had 17 players in it, and was on page 69 at 48 hours into the game

While this game is 13 pages long, has 9 players in it, and was on page 3 at 48 hours into the game

Oh and the playerlist is less exciting this game

You've got little to no basis behind your reads on Correspondence and Doctor Drew, you're just going after everybody who posts the least

Drew has no reads this game which occasionally happens to town but happens twice as often to scum.

Oh yeah, that scummy no reads

I don't mind if we crown pop though

This is Dunn’s progression on pops and it’s kinda weird?

He calls them scummy, complains about how they’re acting, then is in favor of crowning them

[gameplay506]

Soo you think its pops?

[Chemist1422]

Soo you think its pops?

Maybe

I’d have to look into their ISO first

[Chemist1422]

You know what

Oversoul's phrasing makes me think the power roles won't be X-shot.

I think there might be a lot of benefit to trying to secret groupthink 1 townread. Like don't do townreadslists, just do scumreadslists.
Scum have trouble actually townreading obvtown sometimes if you don't tell them.

The next day if that player's ability was weak or underwhelming they can claim and ask not to be given the crown again. If it is sufficiently awesome, they don't claim. Then we secret vote again, they can dodge NK again, they can do awesome thing again. It might shift to a different person if the scum NK one of the people who voted for that particular crown but we didn't lose anything then.

I’ve been trying to multiquote this so I’ll just grab the quotes individually

[Chemist1422]

There's no breadcrumb because I'm lazy and my role can be corroborated. I was/am a 1-shot neighborizer. Oversoul put some cute reflavor on it but it is actually exactly a one-shot neighborizer. Since neighborizer is a nothing urgent role I targeted someone who I thought was scummy with it in case the scum have an Ascetic slot and I could setup spec on their asceticism which is like a 2% chance which is still worthful than a neighborhood itself. As a bit of tiebreaker someone I would possibly benefit from having a neighborhood with maybe a little. I targeted egduF. She's been pretty null in the neighborhood. I asked her to overrepresent her willingness to lynch me so I would be more able to dodge the Night 2 Kill, that's the other thing I came up with to try to macgyver some minimal amount of value out of the worthless role.

2 Mason's and 2 shot bodyguard is a balanced setup on its own, so I suspect all the town crown abilities are at similar levels of useless. Whilst a setup with 3 confirmable player would give a town only themselves to blame for crowning scum, which to me means the scum crown effects are horrifying. I strongly suggest Hectic be recrowned for no effect rather than gambling with it. We should win this game mountainous.


It's actually almost tautologically true that hectic should be crowned today. Suppose you townread some player besides yourself you'd like to crown. Good job, you, that player, and Hectic is the winning townbloc. Therefore, you do not need the crown to win.

[Chemist1422]

Now that I think about it I'm assuming that was the crown power

Still funny though

[Hectic]

Hectic I see you online, don't ignore me

Lul, I'm in 8 games right now.
Don't ask me why. I regret my decision every minute of every day.

Yeah, I don't mind crowning you even though it's technically not optimal.

[Hectic]

Chemist, what are your thoughts on pops from your neighbourhood chat?
And any other dirt you've found on her?

[Chemist1422]

Hectic I see you online, don't ignore me

Lul, I'm in 8 games right now.
Don't ask me why. I regret my decision every minute of every day.

Yeah, I don't mind crowning you even though it's technically not optimal.

wow I thought I was bad at that kinda thing

Chemist, what are your thoughts on pops from your neighbourhood chat?
And any other dirt you've found on her?

lowkey have not read neighborhood chat

And school's about to start for me but I'll go through more stuff once I get a chance (probably in ~2 hours)

[Chemist1422]

A series of relatively strange events occurred

I’ll be back in an hour

[Chemist1422]

I’m gonna pass on this until after school sorry

Not like anyone’s around to care

[gameplay506]

I aam

[Hectic]

I will

always

be here for you, Chemist.

[popsofctown]

I want to win the game on gameplay-Hectic-pops townbloc, all other slots die.

The risk to crowning gameplay is scum!gameplay getting a role like doublevoter and winning in a universe where I would have reread the thread and reconsidered in 3 man LyLo and gone with a different strategy than that townbloc

After this game's tempo got rekt, aside from not wanting to reread, I'm not sure I'd trust the results of the reread as much as my initial impressions

The only threat to the townbloc then is gameplay loves(?) pops, not pops loves gameplay

If he gets crowned with something that can strengthen his TR on my slot somehow, which seemed to waver on day2 due to our differences of opinion about handling mechanics, that can help. I don't actually any longer see a universe where a scum crowned gameplay can win a game that I wouldn't have also lost to a scum gameplay who cannot wear hats because he is upsidedown, they would just fall off, isn't this conversation funny.


Hectic please vote gameplay for crown

with 5 alive that should just be gameplay is crowned, no alphabet soup.

[gameplay506]

YES

[gameplay506]

CHEMIST
You have been here for a day now
Give reads
Next post

[gameplay506]

Ah also is there a way for you guys to link us what has been posted in the neighborhood thread or idk

[popsofctown]

@Oversoul

do you allow PT selfquoting?

Quoting someone besides yourself in a PT is pretty universally banned.

[gameplay506]

Lul, I'm in 8 games right now.
Don't ask me why. I regret my decision every minute of every day.

Yea, that's why I do only 1 game at a time, maybe 2.
Was like you when I started and I saw that I performed terribly so

Pedit:Ok ok