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[Tchill13]

And what would i have to gain from being reluctant to work with someone who tr’s me all game? That is counter-initiative.

If we reverse the roles here and say you’re Town and I’m scum, Then I would have tried to encourage a working relationship with you in order to manipulate you, I wouldn’t have suspected you at every turn and certainly wouldn’t have VOTED Gobble in LYLO CONFIRMING to two people who TR me that I’m scum.

because the guy that TR's you the whole game has voted your scum buddy and he wasn't quick lynched.

this just confirms luca/Uzi imo. All you're doing is making a last ditch effort to push tchill/A50 because you know Klick is your only hope.

[Tchill13]

Aaaalrightly then.

Wish I could lock down Klick/Luca upon my Green flip. But the way LUV is playing is making me so uneasy I cannot grant him a TR.

Luca also believes A50/LUV Is town.

I've actually said I'm still not entirely sure about Gobble. If I'm wrong about the Datisi/Tchill scumteam then he must be scum by PoE, from my perspective.

This however, which gives me vibes of setting up Gobble's mislynch tomorrow, makes me feel better about Klick/Luca.

datisi was close.

[Tchill13]

Honestly team is probs luca/luv

2nd confrimed townie that think luca is scum.

[Tchill13]

LUV
Datisi
Luca
(Klick)

I think both scum are probably in this pile
Gobble could still be added to this, kinda. I guess.

this is icon's last reads list. a 3rd confirmed townie.

[Tchill13]

yep. i fooled those 3 but luca caught me... that smug bastard. Luca is just so damn good...

[Tchill13]

Tchill, you can’t afford Gobble to be lynched because the game would be up. That’s probably why you asked A50 to replace out as he wasn’t game enough and was heading towards a Lynch.

Anyway this is pointless. I know you’re scum, you know I’m Town. It’s up for Klick to decide.

lets say i fake claimed tracker. You realize klick and i have both said A50/LUV is a possibility right? so an A50 lynch. NK luca. Me/klick/Uzi... thats not a hopeless scenario. especially if I were to bus A50.

[Tchill13]

VC 1.13

Emperor flippyNips (5) [L-0]

- Luca Blight, Datisi, Iconeum, Klick, Alisae

Luca Blight (1)

- Emperor flippyNips

Datisi (1)

- Tchill13

Not Voting (2)

- Almost50, Lil Uzi Vert

With 9 alive, majority is 5.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-08-28 07:00:00)

Notes

Klick is V/LA for a few days.
Flip will likely be delayed until I’m out of school.

so the d1 wagon was all town?

[Luca Blight]

Yes.

[Tchill13]

And what would i have to gain from being reluctant to work with someone who tr’s me all game? That is counter-initiative.

If we reverse the roles here and say you’re Town and I’m scum, Then I would have tried to encourage a working relationship with you in order to manipulate you, I wouldn’t have suspected you at every turn and certainly wouldn’t have VOTED Gobble in LYLO CONFIRMING to two people who TR me that I’m scum.

because the guy that TR's you the whole game has voted your scum buddy and he wasn't quick lynched.

this just confirms luca/Uzi imo. All you're doing is making a last ditch effort to push tchill/A50 because you know Klick is your only hope.

I would have tunneled ali if she was alive d2.

I would have tunneled icon had the mass claim had 1 more PR. Like luca mentioned earlier (to shade me) I'm used to 13p mini's. At the time I knew me and icon were the only PR's I thought Icon HAD to be town. I still hated it (because he lied about cop claim). Ultimately I HAD TO believe he was town to get to a place to analyze the game.

I would be tunneling a klick/uzi team had klick not quoted the dragonite reference in the Ali post referring to Icon. I'd still be at least considering klick for scum had luca not laid down a vote.

I have been wrong about many, many things.

there are 3 dead conf townies that thought there was a good chance luca was scum. Given how luca has acted in lylo I have to assume I was wrong about him the entire time. Yes i've voted every which way (mostly due to frustration on how long this game has taken.) No i haven't been consistent (except for my gun to head reads) but if klick went through all my scum PT's this game is over. He knows im town here.

I'm VERY methodical as scum. Yes gobble and LUV are in lylo. From luca's pov I only carried LUV to lylo (since gobble is my teammate)

It's hard to argue for myself because i was throwing my vote around end d2. I dont think you can make the case i've tried to carry LUV to lylo though.

[Luca Blight]

Stop giving self-meta - it’s worthless. Of course you’re not going to say you’re playing like you would as scum, because you don’t want Klick to believe you’re scum.

There’s no way I would have played as scum this way but I’m not going to keep banging that drum as I’d be saying that regardless.

[Tchill13]

its not self meta if klick real all my scum PTs like he stated earlier. Klick already knows this stuff.

[Tchill13]

So I'm genius enough to earn a scummy Oscar... But I fought with my scummate (when I'm a huge team player, especially as scum) and I made a terrible fake claim... And I was the first person to lay down a a vote in lylo. Locking me into a 1v1 and limiting my lynch options...

The "scummy Oscar" doesn't follow the same logic as the rest of my play.

It's crazy. It's almost like I'm better at being scum when I'm actually scum or something.

I don’t think you get a scummy Oscar, you’re misrepping me. I don’t think your reaction was fake even though you’re scum.

I have to get back to work, will be back later.

I think you could fake it generally speaking, but the situation as it presented itself seemed as though it wasn't fake. You were oblivious to what was happening, to the point where you thought Klick was soft-claiming. And this isn't out of the ordinary for you either. If that reaction was genuinely faked then you deserve the MafiaScum version of an Oscar.

At the end of the day we have to base reads on what we deem to be real and fake behaviour, and your reaction to my critical eye didn't seem faked at all.

yeah im totally mis-repping.

you cant really come back from this.

[Tchill13]

and 3 conf townies had you as prob scum. Where am I in that? why am i night killing so many ppl that arent even aware I might be scum?

[Luca Blight]

What are you talking about? I didn’t think you faked the reaction and still don’t, hence no scummy Oscar.

[Luca Blight]

and 3 conf townies had you as prob scum. Where am I in that? why am i night killing so many ppl that arent even aware I might be scum?

The only NK that fits this bill is Ali, and that was a D1 read that could easily have changed.

[Tchill13]

I missed icons claim so I might be town?

How the hell does that make sense?

So you don't think scum might have discussed it during N1?

so my reaction was real. Which means you now think scum ddidn't discuss it? contrary to what you voice here.

[Tchill13]

LUV
Datisi
Luca
(Klick)

I think both scum are probably in this pile
Gobble could still be added to this, kinda. I guess.

this is icon's last reads list. a 3rd confirmed townie.

and 3 conf townies had you as prob scum. Where am I in that? why am i night killing so many ppl that arent even aware I might be scum?

The only NK that fits this bill is Ali, and that was a D1 read that could easily have changed.

why cus icon was PR? how many time have i mentioned scum keeping him around for wifom? oh dang thats self meta...

terrible idea to keep a pr around for wifom that didn't SR me or my partner at all.

[Tchill13]

I buy what you're selling. Particularly that you wouldn't have killed Ali.
It's worth noting that there's not a chance I kill Ali last night either, unless I/my partner saw the crumb. I was in his good books.

Gobble's not scum and I think that's pretty obvious.
I'm ready to accept that I could be wrong on Billy/LUV.
Datisi doesn't feel like scum here, particularly in the last few pages of getting annoyed with me. At first I thought she was being defeatist to try and get townread, but I don't think doing it to this level is quite within her range.

I'm falling on LUV/Luca as a team and I think it makes a fair amount of sense. Luca's read on LUV has flip-flopped enough that I'm not sold on it being coherent.

PEdit: I mean everything you're saying is consistent with the kind of stuff I've read from your past scum PTs I do think there are certain things people just don't do when they're scum that they do when they're town. To that end, meta isn't trash.

and it really doesnt make sense for me to push klick to the fucking wall as scum in lylo here right at the beginning. If anything i open up pushing you luca.

[Luca Blight]

I missed icons claim so I might be town?

How the hell does that make sense?

So you don't think scum might have discussed it during N1?

so my reaction was real. Which means you now think scum ddidn't discuss it? contrary to what you voice here.

I’ve felt you might be scum all along despite this, as I’ve already been over.

I don’t know what went down in that scum PT N1 but I believe you misunderstood what A50 was talking about, unless A50 just didn’t give a fuck and didn’t even mention it which I wouldn’t rule out based on his play this game.

[Luca Blight]

I buy what you're selling. Particularly that you wouldn't have killed Ali.
It's worth noting that there's not a chance I kill Ali last night either, unless I/my partner saw the crumb. I was in his good books.

Gobble's not scum and I think that's pretty obvious.
I'm ready to accept that I could be wrong on Billy/LUV.
Datisi doesn't feel like scum here, particularly in the last few pages of getting annoyed with me. At first I thought she was being defeatist to try and get townread, but I don't think doing it to this level is quite within her range.

I'm falling on LUV/Luca as a team and I think it makes a fair amount of sense. Luca's read on LUV has flip-flopped enough that I'm not sold on it being coherent.

PEdit: I mean everything you're saying is consistent with the kind of stuff I've read from your past scum PTs I do think there are certain things people just don't do when they're scum that they do when they're town. To that end, meta isn't trash.

and it really doesnt make sense for me to push klick to the fucking wall as scum in lylo here right at the beginning. If anything i open up pushing you luca.

It makes less sense me voting Gobble and confirming to you and him that I’m scum when you were townreading
me.

Anyway, I will return to this Monday as I said.

[Tchill13]

im fine with walking away on such poopoo points.

[Tchill13]

I buy what you're selling. Particularly that you wouldn't have killed Ali.
It's worth noting that there's not a chance I kill Ali last night either, unless I/my partner saw the crumb. I was in his good books.

Gobble's not scum and I think that's pretty obvious.
I'm ready to accept that I could be wrong on Billy/LUV.
Datisi doesn't feel like scum here, particularly in the last few pages of getting annoyed with me. At first I thought she was being defeatist to try and get townread, but I don't think doing it to this level is quite within her range.

I'm falling on LUV/Luca as a team and I think it makes a fair amount of sense. Luca's read on LUV has flip-flopped enough that I'm not sold on it being coherent.

PEdit: I mean everything you're saying is consistent with the kind of stuff I've read from your past scum PTs I do think there are certain things people just don't do when they're scum that they do when they're town. To that end, meta isn't trash.

and it really doesnt make sense for me to push klick to the fucking wall as scum in lylo here right at the beginning. If anything i open up pushing you luca.

It makes less sense me voting Gobble and confirming to you and him that I’m scum when you were townreading
me.

Anyway, I will return to this Monday as I said.

nice "what about"-ism.

[Klick]

And what would i have to gain from being reluctant to work with someone who tr’s me all game? That is counter-initiative.

If we reverse the roles here and say you’re Town and I’m scum, Then I would have tried to encourage a working relationship with you in order to manipulate you, I wouldn’t have suspected you at every turn and certainly wouldn’t have VOTED Gobble in LYLO CONFIRMING to two people who TR me that I’m scum.

because the guy that TR's you the whole game has voted your scum buddy and he wasn't quick lynched.

this just confirms luca/Uzi imo. All you're doing is making a last ditch effort to push tchill/A50 because you know Klick is your only hope.

You should know this makes zero sense, Tchill. I was getting lynched after a red Uzi flip until Luca voted gobble. A LUV/Luca team can simply let that happen, no?

[Klick]

Luca

A50
Billy
Flippynips
Klick
Icon
Datisi

Looking back, this is such an annoying readslist for my purposes now.

[Tchill13]

And what would i have to gain from being reluctant to work with someone who tr’s me all game? That is counter-initiative.

If we reverse the roles here and say you’re Town and I’m scum, Then I would have tried to encourage a working relationship with you in order to manipulate you, I wouldn’t have suspected you at every turn and certainly wouldn’t have VOTED Gobble in LYLO CONFIRMING to two people who TR me that I’m scum.

because the guy that TR's you the whole game has voted your scum buddy and he wasn't quick lynched.

this just confirms luca/Uzi imo. All you're doing is making a last ditch effort to push tchill/A50 because you know Klick is your only hope.

You should know this makes zero sense, Tchill. I was getting lynched after a red Uzi flip until Luca voted gobble. A LUV/Luca team can simply let that happen, no?

I showed hesitancy after you quoted ali calling icon that name.