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[Kop]

I don't town read Tchill either. I have 1 experience with chill, and he was town in that game, I'm not getting the same feeling here in this game.

[Hectic]

Woah, did I say I'd catch up today?
Afraid I'll have to cash in on that 40% uncertainty from earlier.
I will 100% catchup in the new day with 80% certainty.

Brief reply to Profii:
-Was against a wagon on rooster for reasons I've explained, but eventually voted since a wagon of some kind is better than no wagon.
-Vote on Dave was because I thought his pushing for a rooster wagon was either lazy town or opportunistic scum. Not so sure about that now though.
-Vote on Cliff was simply for the wagon. Thinking of my read on him right now, barely anything comes to mind. I recall some stuff that might have been him hiding behind his gimmick? That's the only thing I can remember.

[Hectic]

Actually, I reckon I'll pull an all-nighter to reread the wiki.

I'll have a ganesolve for you fine people once I'm done with that.

[Tchill13]

Gamesolve d1. That's nice.

[Tchill13]

Yeah that's another member of the do-nothing crowd. It's a pretty big gathering.

I swear I'm playing hard D2. Just waiting for it to end. Should be about 50 more pages.

[YOUAREGREAT]

oof im finding it hard to get into this game

kinda feels like my reads are at a stalemate until i see a flip

[Rick Dalton]

I definitely hit prod range. Been busy, I’ll put some effort here soon.

[Gamma Emerald]

I definitely hit prod range. Been busy, I’ll put some effort here soon.

PLEASE DO

[profii]

VOTE: Hectic

I think that's the best way to go. I'll case it out for everyone when I'm not half asleep. But the gist is a lot of surface level stuff, even once you get past the gimmick and look at what he's actually doing.

please dont tell me you're doing this to play devil's advocate, is that, for sure, the #1 place where you want your vote? Everyone considered?

sounds like I've missed something?

[Cliff Booth]

why does tchill get to say he isn't gonna put in any effort on day one and no one really cares but I get bullied into having to play day 1

[profii]

why does tchill get to say he isn't gonna put in any effort on day one and no one really cares but I get bullied into having to play day 1

Interestingly that was the reason I suicide copped tchill in a game once and sacrificed myself to get a guilty. I'll see what I think but maybe I just got lucky with going against his meta that time

(I had a loyal visiting type role, last post of the day was "imma cop you tchill >=( and then I died from the visit ha ha, rick was in the game too, I cant flipping find it)

[profii]

Tell a lie, weak fruit vendor
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... hilit=Imma

[Tchill13]

why does tchill get to say he isn't gonna put in any effort on day one and no one really cares but I get bullied into having to play day 1

Interestingly that was the reason I suicide copped tchill in a game once and sacrificed myself to get a guilty. I'll see what I think but maybe I just got lucky with going against his meta that time

(I had a loyal visiting type role, last post of the day was "imma cop you tchill >=( and then I died from the visit ha ha, rick was in the game too, I cant flipping find it)

this made me so mad lol.

[Tchill13]

cliff, you keep posting and interacting. Town pretty much refuses to lynch inactives d1 so a handful of ppl can feel like they "did something" d1.

[davesaz]

@Cliff -- Tchill did 'stuff'. When he stopped it was definitely noticed.

[Elements]

kinda feels like my reads are at a stalemate until i see a flip

Isn't that just day 1?

[Elements]

With that in mind, Elements, Billy, and let's say Profii are

confirmed scum

to me here.

Yet you're voting cliff.
How are we "confirmed scum". It's impossible for anyone to be confirmed anything to anyone unless the play saying they have confirmed reads are themselves scum.
And don't say "it was a prodge so I didn't think it through" because that would be a blatant lie. In fact, do say that. Then we can all lynch scum day 1.

[Elements]

Elements, have you directly explained your actual reason for self voting?

I've said I wanted a wagon many times. That's about it.
I wanted a wagon so I tried to shake the game up a bit by self voting. If that resulted in a wagon on me, great, then we have a wagon.

[Elements]

It didn't work particularly well

[Garmr]

cliff, you keep posting and interacting. Town pretty much refuses to lynch inactives d1 so a handful of ppl can feel like they "did something" d1.

So this is.tchill telling us to lynch him.

[Hopkirk]

There's also reasons to push Cliff here. He's dodging my questions.

huh

well he was

I'm going to chuck tchill on my scum list for post 1210. I'm starting to think cliff is town judging how the wagon is forming on him. It's like everyone jumped on something surface level scummy because they have been starved of obvious scum.

Don't see any real merit in the cliff wagon either.

agreed

-Hop

[Hopkirk]

@Lil Uzi Vert: can we have more votecounts? Really hard to keep track of the wagons.

[Hopkirk]

besides that I have a little list, in order. town top.

gamma
hectic/hopkirk
garmr
yag/profi
Bob/billy
Jjd
Dalton/Kop
Eevee/Eleme
Cliff
Dave/tchill

I'm aware I haven't explained the lowest end much yet. I'll do that someday.

Why is hectic so high?

Do you not have a strong townread on Hectic like me?

And I'm pretty sure, in plain terms, the self-vote was an attempt to draw attention back to the game during a dry time/standstill.

Well to me it looked more like him trying to make the wagon and the people on it look stupid. It was a gambit, nothing more than that. To say that it was this attempt to breathe life back into the game is BS

And I'm pretty sure, in plain terms, the self-vote was an attempt to draw attention back to the game during a dry time/standstill.

Well to me it looked more like him trying to make the wagon and the people on it look stupid. It was a gambit, nothing more than that. To say that it was this attempt to breathe life back into the game is BS

why are you so close minded?

What I said earlier about your selfvote^

[Hopkirk]

Sup guys

Woah, is that really AaronFrost???
Been wanting to play a game with you for quite a while, sir.
The wiki tells of the most legendary of stories regarding you.

For example:
"This one time, it was just AaronFrost and 3 mafia left. He was just a vanilla townie, but by using his AaronFrost haggling skills, he recieved 2 dayvig shots from the mod. He shot the first 2 scum, and then bluffed the third into conceding. Masterful play."

I think this is one of mine.

I said I would case out my hectic vote but flicking through the ISO again there is just too many lol-posts for me to go through it and do it seriously - however - i still stand by my vote.
Basically I was going through each slot and marking in a spreadsheet if people town or scum lent on any slot, whilst i did that, hectics leans just stood out like a sore thumb for some reason.
When i thought back to my initial skim of the ISO and called it surfacey, i still agreed with that position so i think it's a good vote.

Perhaps I am giving hectic not enough credit because of all the jokes but some of his votes seem to just be following wagons in any direction and no real scum reasons for anything so im ok with it

Stop scumreading Hectic. He's playing his town game.

-Hop

[Hopkirk]

why does tchill get to say he isn't gonna put in any effort on day one and no one really cares but I get bullied into having to play day 1

gIVe mE a fuLL rEaDs LisT or i'Ll dAYviG yoU, yOu iNACtiVe

With that in mind, Elements, Billy, and let's say Profii are

confirmed scum

to me here.

Yet you're voting cliff.
How are we "confirmed scum". It's impossible for anyone to be confirmed anything to anyone unless the play saying they have confirmed reads are themselves scum.
And don't say "it was a prodge so I didn't think it through" because that would be a blatant lie. In fact, do say that. Then we can all lynch scum day 1.

The joke you missed- saying 'Let's say' implies that I've only just decided on it in the moment (imagine a pause and an 'eh er,' between the let's say and the name. This is humorous in conjunction with me bolding confirmed scum. The reader is led to infer that I've decided on the scumread at that moment but am 100% sure of it.

The content you missed- I scumread all of this people. Elements/Billy more, which is why I went for 'let's say' on Profii.

The context you missed- I hadn't read the last ten pages (which is what the post was saying) so I didn't change my vote since I intended to catch up today and didn't know how wagons were going.

-Hip