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[Gamma Emerald]

I have never played two games that were alike so I assume people haven't either.

I could probably day this too but I don't because yes there may be contextual differences but similarities are similarities. Sure it might be coincidental but that doesn't mean you ignore it.

[Gamma Emerald]

You made a case that you could just state in a simple discussion thread

Actually what

[Garmr]

I can't see scum motivation in pushing against masons. Rc did that in a previous game with me and we both flipped town.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I was in that one and I pushed them too, but that was because the claim was totally wack

[davesaz]

I’m the most narcissistic player on site

I'd give that one to RC tbh. It's a close race in any case.

[Rick Dalton]

fuck meta right now man

FL, in plain terms, you're being scummy. You can tell us all it's not AI scummy and we can believe it. Everyone has that bit of gross to them, moreso than others. But in a regular game of mafia with content to this game and this thread alone, you do not look good.

Now, sure.

Previously, no, I wasn’t.

And that’s what I’m referring. I don’t care what you think of my play now, I was not being scummy prior. I was being clear with my thoughts and everything.

Even if you thought i was scum previously, i wasn’t being scummy. This is a cop out of a post.

[Rick Dalton]

Well I didn't want to personally, but JJD caught on, probably jokingly, and gamma just decided to confirm it.

Look back at every single time I mention gamma and tell me again that I joined this on a whim.

It’s easy to crumb in a fake mason fashion. I’m never gonna truly believe it.

Like sure, you may be masons. Doesn’t change the fact Gamma has a straight up incorrect application of the meta read.
And if you truly are masons, then this would be GOOD that I am pushing it like this because it protects from potential Night kills, which is another reason I’m not fully believing.

I don't believe my meta is incorrect. Maybe on my first real application of it, it was an extreme case. Doesn't change the fact you consistently by my recollection have used similar excuses for inactivity as scum.

Disagree. I’m super aware of the games when I’m like that.

Can you say Iwas overly aware in this game, even though I was actually pretty active.

And sure, you were pushing that, but that’s the point. That’s not how I was this game at all.

It’s like you’re saying I’m a chameleon who often likes to be purple when I’m scum, and calling me purple here, even though I’m clearly more of a brown, and not purple.

[Titus]

I can't see scum motivation in pushing against masons. Rc did that in a previous game with me and we both flipped town.

I actually agree with Garmr. This isn't a point where scum would be desperate enough to do that.

[Rick Dalton]

Anakin Skywalker used to fix up droids, and he fixes up droids when he’s scum, but i was Vader here, didn’t fix up any droids.

[Rick Dalton]

Well I didn't want to personally, but JJD caught on, probably jokingly, and gamma just decided to confirm it.

Look back at every single time I mention gamma and tell me again that I joined this on a whim.

It’s easy to crumb in a fake mason fashion. I’m never gonna truly believe it.

Like sure, you may be masons. Doesn’t change the fact Gamma has a straight up incorrect application of the meta read.
And if you truly are masons, then this would be GOOD that I am pushing it like this because it protects from potential Night kills, which is another reason I’m not fully believing.

I don't believe my meta is incorrect. Maybe on my first real application of it, it was an extreme case. Doesn't change the fact you consistently by my recollection have used similar excuses for inactivity as scum.

And while I don’t necessarily agree that this was correct meta by you, i also wasn’t attacking the validity of the meta itself.

I was attacking the incorrect usage and application of it.

You were saying i do X as scum, and saying that was what was happening here, and I hard disagree I was doing X. I’ve been Y this entire time, and you’re pushing it like I’m X.

[Rick Dalton]

Also it doesn't matter that you're "protecting from NKs" if you're scum. You can say all sorts of stuff you don't believe man.
And following Carcalilly's lead of dropping meta, you have continually defended Cliff off of nothing but as I see it flimsy joke meme logic. So even dropping meta you STILL look bad.

Again, as scum, there’s no reason for me to not make anything.

And i CLEARLY stated that it was more than just the names and partnership, and I clearly stated exactly why I town read Cliff.

Game state, wagon build up, and all that.

Just because YOU don’t like it or agree with it, doesn’t mean that I haven’t done it, because you are CLEARLY wrong here.

That’s not opinion; this is fact.

[Rick Dalton]

I’m like...only defensive as town.

I really recall you being defensive in Floral Mafia

I don’t even remember said game.

And yeah, I do try to mimic my town meta a lot, but I’m constantly evolving my play anyways.

Meta should be supplementary.

[Rick Dalton]

Juuuuust wanna make sure it's not AI for you before I go and make accusations.

I’m the most narcissistic player on site, however, I’m narcissistic for everyone I analyze and think everyone should just be proud and confident with their ability and really push their passions. That’s how I am in real life, but people see my genuineness, and I’m overly optimistic, and I’m a derpfuck as well, so it’s a nice blend.

The derpfuck lets me be likable, and the playful arrogance lets people sass me in fun ways.

I prefer rational self-analysis. Getting a big ego is a sure way to set yourself up for a nasty fall. And if you don't acknowledge your fuck-ups others will, and they will refuse to trust you from then on.

I agree? I always acknowledge my fuck ups. I even called myself a derpfuck, so this is literally just a post meant to shade and discredit.

All my self analysis is rational. I know my flaws. I know my strengths. Sometimes strengths can turn into flaws, sometimes flaws can be a hidden strength.

They’re both important.

This is a complete discredit attempt which yet again proved why you are incorrect and have a pointless case.

[Rick Dalton]

You made a case that you could just state in a simple discussion thread

Actually what

A meta case when talking about scumFL.

It had zero applicatable meaning to this game, just like posting it in a discussion thread would.

[Rick Dalton]

Like you’re just plain wrong

[Rick Dalton]

You’re saying I’m X when I’m scum, and saying that’s what it is here, but I’m not even X here. I’ve been Y this whole time, so you need to get your spectacles checked.

[Garmr]

I'm just going to ignore Rick when it comes to gamma.

[Rick Dalton]

And honestly, this isn’t even defensive, Carca.

I’m just proving exactly why he is wrong. Defensive means I am defending myself against something that can harm me, but those blaster shots i don’t even to think about and my force skills just allow me to deflect it without even really thinking. It’s just instinct and takes no extranneaous effort on my part.

It’s just wrong

[Rick Dalton]

I'm just going to ignore Rick when it comes to gamma.

Why

He is completely wrong, so if you ignore that, then you’re playing incorrectly too and choosing to not read people.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay, I'll drop the meta point now. I don't feel convinced by it completely but going on just feels like filling space. However I do want you to answer for your weak defending of Cliff Booth.

[Garmr]

I'm just going to ignore Rick when it comes to gamma.

Why

He is completely wrong, so if you ignore that, then you’re playing incorrectly too and choosing to not read people.

Gamma is a mason I don't think his gambling. I think you are town and gammas point on you being scum is wrong.

So I'm shutting you both out.

[Titus]

Okay, I'll drop the meta point now. I don't feel convinced by it completely but going on just feels like filling space. However I do want you to answer for your weak defending of Cliff Booth.

What are you implying? Cliff + Rick?

[Rick Dalton]

Like I believe I put a note for myself to speak on this, anyway, Rick/Flavor likes to say his activity is NAI but I notice his trend seems to be he ends up straight lurking as scum. That seems to definitely be his game here. Like yea he also has active scum game but inactive town games seem to be a lot less common from him

I’m inactive as town in every single one of my town games, generally multiple times during the game, and I always come in.

I’m pretty sure JJD and I talked about that? Maybe it wasn’t this game.

When I come in, I come in, because when I’m posting, the game just starts circling around me, like not even gonna sugarcoat it. I have to back off, because life gets really busy sometimes, and i need other people to post not revolving me.

And I am also the 5th highest poster in this game, so you saying I was inactive is again, wrong. I go inactive at t8mes, sure, but literally I go inactive in every single game. Especially if it’s a faster game.

I’m always on site, so I’m like...aware of the speed, and I’ll post when I’m not playing, but i don’t really like deep read.

But I always show up. And actually, townMe is MORE inactive than scumMe because there’s more games where I’m just town and eventually die in than games where I’m scum and eventually die in.

[Rick Dalton]

Okay, I'll drop the meta point now. I don't feel convinced by it completely but going on just feels like filling space. However I do want you to answer for your weak defending of Cliff Booth.

I don’t have a weak defending of Cliff. My reasonings are strong. Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t make it incorrect or weak. Game state, wagon, and social environment is what got me to town read, Cliff, and nothing about that has changed.

Why is he scum? I literally didn’t see any real reasons for him being scum, so how come that’s fine? I gave my reasonings. It’s a Day 1. I don’t need more than that.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Hop is town and I think you + Cliff voting him together plus your early interactions were very probable scum+scum interaction
Like what is your whole logic for not wanting to lynch Cliff? As I see it the only things stated so far have been the group meme and not liking the wagon. Why is the wagon so bad?
Tbh should I know who Cliff is?