Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps
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This would be my guess for where something doesn't fit in, maybe the voting self meta?In post 1762, xofelf wrote:@Penguin: I know I'm not voting and you'd rather I was. I'm not the kind of person who votes all willy-nilly. I tend to only vote when I feel confident where I'm voting is scum, or to reaction test to what I say my reasons are for voting that slot. Because I tend to respond after there's been a bunch of pages, I don't want to have a vote somewhere I'm not confident in and to come back and find my vote helped a lynch happen that I didn't want to have happen.We're falling through space, you and me, clinging to the skin of this tiny little world, and if we let go...That's who I am.
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Wrong answer.In post 3449, jjh927 wrote:In A Story Revisited, jjh927 wrote:In post 241, jjh927 wrote:In post 92, mastina wrote:Find a single instance of me lying about my role as scum.In post 77, mastina wrote:BTW investigatives should stay off me; they'd be wasting their action.
I'm a D3 Innocent Child.
If you are wondering, no, not automatic; I have to manually trigger it.
That game I didn't lie. In fact, I distinctly recall rebuking you:
Subject: A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6
I claimed my real fucking role there. I was an N2 Vig; I SAID I was an N2 Vig. So I claimed my real fucking role there.mastina wrote:
While technically true, this is incredibly misleading.In post 236, Innocent Children wrote:She fakeclaimed D3 IC iirc? but was in actuality mafia vig, so I would definitely think it’s wise to take hers and probably most early claims with a grain of salt.
I fakeclaimed D3 innocent child...as a N2 Vigilante. (And once D3 rolled around, I realclaimed my role. So no. Didn't lie. Told the truth!)
Given my stance on Vigilantes.
That in of itself was not a lie.
It was misleading, sure.
But my stance on vigilantes is that when they successfully shoot, theyareconftown; they are proven to be town, and thus, proven innocent, just as if they were an innocent child. (Why this, in spite of my stance of roles != alignment? Because I am a member of the NRG and I am strongly in favor of the argument of vigs not being mafia-controlled. Nontown, sure. Even antitown, fine. But mafia vigs are a fuck no to me and are borderline bastard. They're not QUITE there, in that they're akin to a mafia Godfather; it is something TREMENDOUSLY powerful for the scum to have and NOT something I want in games out there willy-nilly.)
You can see my full realclaim the moment D3 unfolds, right here.Sure enough.Spoiler: The Posts in Question
Exactly as I roleclaimed.
N2 Vigilantewasmy real role, andI really didshoot Purcocet using it.
So like I said.
I don't lie about my role as scum.
BY NECESSITY, I will mislead; the reason I by necessity need to mislead as scum is because I love to do it as town. BY NECESSITY, I will exaggerate, I will play up things, I will make very careful usage of very specific wording. BY NECESSITY, I will try to imply something, when it is something else, but this is done purely to mimic my town meta, and I will always claim the actual real role later.
All fakeclaims have an end date.
All fakeclaims are made knowing a realclaim will need to be made later.
And when I reveal the real claim, the reason for the fakeclaim makes complete and total sense when you view it, because you go, "Oh, I understand why that was done" instantly just by knowing the real role.
You can think of it in this term.
Macho <-> Bulletproof as a switch to make, is in fact a lie.
I would tell it gladly and have done so, specifically because I knew that upon a realclaim, the reasons for me having done so would be abundantly clear. The kind of thing where I don't even need to explain it. I could end up a corpse, and that fact alone, just seeing my flip, would instantly explain my actions.
That's how "lies" of mine work. And that's why I say they're not actually lies. They are, technically speaking, not the truth. But they are a lack of truth, which when you see the truth, you understand why they were done and follow it as having been the optimal play.
Claiming D3 Innocent Child as a N2 vig was abrilliantplay move,regardlessof alignment and I'm actually sad I was scum that game because that move would have actually been better were I town. It wasn't really a lie, just me playing the closest I've ever played to my town meta in spite of how little I actually played the game. (Through little fault of my own, mind you.)
If the town hadn't kept quicklynching and I hadn't been so swamped with real life stuff at the time that game coulda been a contender for best scumgame I ever played, but since they did and I was busy I barely got to do anything. BUT I DIGRESS.
Point being.
I don't lie as scum; the closest I come to lying as scum is mimicking my town lies, and when I lie as town, I am most definitively not doing so just for the lulz; there is a clear, role-based reason for the lie and when you see the real role you can understand how it wasn't really much of a lie at all if it was in fact really something you could call a lie because my fondness for wordplay and precise usage of words leads me to carefully selecting words which IMPLY the meaning I want BUT ACTUALLY are me confessing to my real role.
There is precisely one game where I lied about my role as scum.
You didn't find it.- Gamma Emerald
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Or actually the fact she directly addresses Penguin like thatWe're falling through space, you and me, clinging to the skin of this tiny little world, and if we let go...That's who I am.
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Warmer.In post 3452, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 1762, xofelf wrote:@Penguin: I know I'm not voting and you'd rather I was. I'm not the kind of person who votes all willy-nilly. I tend to only vote when I feel confident where I'm voting is scum, or to reaction test to what I say my reasons are for voting that slot. Because I tend to respond after there's been a bunch of pages, I don't want to have a vote somewhere I'm not confident in and to come back and find my vote helped a lynch happen that I didn't want to have happen.
Why did she write that paragraph in the first place?- Alisae
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WarmerIn post 3455, Gamma Emerald wrote:Or actually the fact she directly addresses Penguin like that- jjh927
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In post 3453, Alisae wrote:Your jojo reference is"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle- Alisae
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In post 3459, Alisae wrote:The mistake is that part 5 is garbage"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle- Alisae
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Part 5 was my first real taste of jojos
Sure it was fun to watch
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She posted that response to Penguin to address her not voting silly Billy. That seems consistent? What am I missing?We're falling through space, you and me, clinging to the skin of this tiny little world, and if we let go...That's who I am.
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Perfection.In post 3463, the worst wrote:We're falling through space, you and me, clinging to the skin of this tiny little world, and if we let go...That's who I am.
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I heard that it just had new characters and wasn’t really about the latest parts, so I don’t see the harm in it.
Ik the older jojos were better but I was interested in what part 5 was like specifically- jjh927
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Okay hi, so, I am very aware that posts I've made as well as how few there have quite a few of you wholly convinced that I'm scum that needs to die asap. And I can definitely see why you all would think that. But I'm not. I did believe that LLD was town, I was wrong, and I can see where how I stated what I was thinking and why would look like I was scum defending my scum buddy, but I wasn't. I was giving my perspective on one of the few people in this playerlist I have any familiarity with, without really considering that it might look less than genuine. even if I wasn't rusty at mafia, I'm just really bad at it. And this particular game has gone so goddamn fast that keeping on top of it has been quite a chore. I'm aware that I'm in a problem of my own making, and I honestly don't expect to be able to convince many of you that I'm not scum because fuck I walked myself right some bullshit. And it's not exactly been easy to figure out what to say to actually get myself out of it without getting into a worse pickle, and the thread went some places during the last day that reminded me why I don't play and why this game isn't always fun, but I am here anyways and I want to actually contribute in some way that actually matters. Lynching me isn't going to do that. I'm not scum, and I'm not even useful town. I get it if y'all want to lynch me anyways, but I'm telling you, it's a waste of a day where we can actually be scumhunting and eliminating someone who will actually matter if they go, cuz me leaving doesn't help anybody.
Also @Grey, as I'm reading, I try to remember to respond to comments specifically directed at me when I do make a post especially if it's something that isn't going to take a long response.
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You’re half way there!In post 3464, Gamma Emerald wrote:She posted that response to Penguin to address her not voting silly Billy. That seems consistent? What am I missing?
We established that PP wrote a post that had her not voting and told her to do something.
I can’t lead you the rest of the way there, but the issue is not the consistency.
I think the last think I can say to help you figure this out is
Why does she feel like she has to respond to that PP post?- Gamma Emerald
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Xof, have you read the game overnight? Any amount is fine its just have you read anything.In post 3468, xofelf wrote:Okay hi, so, I am very aware that posts I've made as well as how few there have quite a few of you wholly convinced that I'm scum that needs to die asap. And I can definitely see why you all would think that. But I'm not. I did believe that LLD was town, I was wrong, and I can see where how I stated what I was thinking and why would look like I was scum defending my scum buddy, but I wasn't. I was giving my perspective on one of the few people in this playerlist I have any familiarity with, without really considering that it might look less than genuine. even if I wasn't rusty at mafia, I'm just really bad at it. And this particular game has gone so goddamn fast that keeping on top of it has been quite a chore. I'm aware that I'm in a problem of my own making, and I honestly don't expect to be able to convince many of you that I'm not scum because fuck I walked myself right some bullshit. And it's not exactly been easy to figure out what to say to actually get myself out of it without getting into a worse pickle, and the thread went some places during the last day that reminded me why I don't play and why this game isn't always fun, but I am here anyways and I want to actually contribute in some way that actually matters. Lynching me isn't going to do that. I'm not scum, and I'm not even useful town. I get it if y'all want to lynch me anyways, but I'm telling you, it's a waste of a day where we can actually be scumhunting and eliminating someone who will actually matter if they go, cuz me leaving doesn't help anybody.
Also @Grey, as I'm reading, I try to remember to respond to comments specifically directed at me when I do make a post especially if it's something that isn't going to take a long response.
@Ari: I didn't mention Chickadee and feeling weird about her still because the more she posted the less I felt weirdly about her. But I probably should have updated about that, you're right.
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