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[Gamma Emerald]

I specifically wanted to pressure Rick personally

[Rick Dalton]

I really do want to take gammas side on this but some of the stuff you say is so blatantly scummy and/or straightforward no scum in their right mindset would do it. Literally the only thing making me doubt this.

Then you’re wrong too, because the reasonings are straight incorrect.

[Rick Dalton]

If anything y’all probably neighbors and one of you decided to do a mason gambit instead and the other went “great idea!”

[Garmr]

garmr's shrug off of this being T vs T seems nice

That’s the epitome of a scum play

so am I gammas partner or you admitting your wrong?

[Titus]

I specifically wanted to pressure Rick personally

I'm just face palming here.

Diverting from Cliff (scum) onto Rick likely only pressures Rick if Rick is town. Otherwise, it dilutes town vote power and makes a counter easier to create.

[Billy Pilgrim]

I liked Hopkirk today. He's right that my slot's been terrible. I didn't really have much to go on today. Carca's probably right that I'm asking weird questions, I am sort of lost in this game. The only wagon that existed was roster, and I wasn't that into that one, but this one feels better, not a huge fan of Cliff's slot, and I'm liking the people on this wagon so far.

VOTE: Cliff

I don't like this vote, and also the explanation isn't up to the vote either. I just feel that it is a clean sheep vote because he likes the people that are on the wagon, I understand following your town reads, but there could be a possibility that there could be scum on the wagon that he is town reading. Or the other possibility is that Billy is scum and can have that confidence in the people on the wagon are town because he would know for sure they are town. He didn't like the Rooster wagon, but he would know that it would look bad for sheeping onto that wagon because of the manner and way the votes went.

He also states that he is not a fan of the Cliff slot, but hasn't really divulged into why he doesn't like that slot, or also interact with Cliff to debate with him to why he doesn't specifically like that slot.

VOTE: Billy

The 1 on 1's aren't really my style. I like engaging people with their reads of me, because I feel like that can give me info, but I'll mostly sit back and ask a few questions. I can only do that with more active players. At the time the Cliff wagon formed, he was a very low content slot. And his early responses were almost deliberately provacative. Like pointing out that 2 scum were on his wagon but not naming them. So if you're looking for me to 1v1 someone that may happen, but probably not early in the game.

[profii]

There has been a lot of posts since I last checked in and it looks a bunch of posters - is there some important information i need to take from 10 pages or so

[Billy Pilgrim]

besides that I have a little list, in order. town top.

gamma
hectic/hopkirk
garmr
yag/profi
Bob/billy
Jjd
Dalton/Kop
Eevee/Eleme
Cliff
Dave/tchill

I'm aware I haven't explained the lowest end much yet. I'll do that someday.

Why is hectic so high?

Do you not have a strong townread on Hectic like me?

And I'm pretty sure, in plain terms, the self-vote was an attempt to draw attention back to the game during a dry time/standstill.

Well to me it looked more like him trying to make the wagon and the people on it look stupid. It was a gambit, nothing more than that. To say that it was this attempt to breathe life back into the game is BS

And I'm pretty sure, in plain terms, the self-vote was an attempt to draw attention back to the game during a dry time/standstill.

Well to me it looked more like him trying to make the wagon and the people on it look stupid. It was a gambit, nothing more than that. To say that it was this attempt to breathe life back into the game is BS

why are you so close minded?

What I said earlier about your selfvote^

Probably should have iso'd before I asked the question. Hectic's iso looks good. Shit, he's going to be impossible to read, because when I think about his play, I'm remembering the jokes. But when I look at his iso, there's a decent bit of content spliced in with the jokes. So no Hectic, I literally can't ignore the jokes, because they make the game enjoyable so I want to read them, but my brain is associating them with your play and it made me have you more null when you should have been a strong town lean.

[Billy Pilgrim]

@AaronFrost I agree that taking care of college stuff first is the right priority. Replacing in is good for the site, but it's better when you do it only when you're ready to play.

What was this in response to?

[Billy Pilgrim]

@AaronFrost I agree that taking care of college stuff first is the right priority. Replacing in is good for the site, but it's better when you do it only when you're ready to play.

What was this in response to?

Nevermind, found it. Damn this game is unwieldy.

[AaronFrost]

I actually like that post for town!dave. I don't think scum would go out of their way to comment on that.

[AaronFrost]

There has been a lot of posts since I last checked in and it looks a bunch of posters - is there some important information i need to take from 10 pages or so

Gamma/Dredd are possibly masons.

Elements claimed SK but make of that what you will. I don't believe the claim personally.

Lots of arguing about meta between Rick/Gamma/Carca. Trying to figure out what to make of that currently.

I replaced Skellen.

[Gamma Emerald]

I specifically wanted to pressure Rick personally

I'm just face palming here.

Diverting from Cliff (scum) onto Rick likely only pressures Rick if Rick is town. Otherwise, it dilutes town vote power and makes a counter easier to create.

Does it not pressure Rick if he's scum tho

[Billy Pilgrim]

If anything y’all probably neighbors and one of you decided to do a mason gambit instead and the other went “great idea!”

@Rick - Why would a town neighbor either agree to or propose that in a normal game? Masons are confirmed town, whereas neighbors can be any alignment. So while a scum neighbor would do that, by you shading either of them, you're basically calling both of them scum. I know you're pressing Gamma, but do you think Carcalilly is scum too?

[Hectic]

Currently on the run from some VERY angry mobsters.
Don't worry, I'll handle it, but give me half a tenday.

@mod: V/LA 17th to 21st.

[Rick Dalton]

If anything y’all probably neighbors and one of you decided to do a mason gambit instead and the other went “great idea!”

@Rick - Why would a town neighbor either agree to or propose that in a normal game? Masons are confirmed town, whereas neighbors can be any alignment. So while a scum neighbor would do that, by you shading either of them, you're basically calling both of them scum. I know you're pressing Gamma, but do you think Carcalilly is scum too?

Yes. I’m not certain, but yeah.

Town neighbors often claim masons together because it protects them for a couple of days. It lets them figure themselves out too.

Scum let it happen because eventually they can put it and blame the townie who is often the one that does it.

[Rick Dalton]

The fact is I’ve straight up seen Gamma, in a neighborhood, claim masons. With me.

[Rick Dalton]

I was scum there. I ended up outing Gamma as doing it, and somehow we ended up the final 2 in the game.

[Rick Dalton]

Elements claimed SK but make of that what you will. I don't believe the claim personally.

I forgot about this.

Honestly, it could be mafia claiming SK to try to be “leashed”.

I hate that idea of leashing SK’s. Just kill them.

[Elements]

Elements claimed SK but make of that what you will. I don't believe the claim personally.

I forgot about this.

Honestly, it could be mafia claiming SK to try to be “leashed”.

I hate that idea of leashing SK’s. Just kill them.

I haven't crumbed SK, I have crumbed my role.

[Gamma Emerald]

The fact is I’ve straight up seen Gamma, in a neighborhood, claim masons. With me.

Yeah uh Billy
You kinda don't know what you're talking about

[Hopkirk]

So Rick and Gamma are both still town. I read 6 pages for nothing.

-Hop

[Billy Pilgrim]

The fact is I’ve straight up seen Gamma, in a neighborhood, claim masons. With me.

Yeah uh Billy
You kinda don't know what you're talking about

That's generally a safe assumption.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

I’m an investigative

Yay! That makes two of us. We'd make a great team..

[Hopkirk]

Woah, I thought it was just a few of us. Starting to look like role madness with all of us detectives here.